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trof

(54,256 posts)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 07:49 PM Jul 2019

Met a trump voter at the library today.

I belong to the Friends of the Library and we run a small used book store in the library.
It's volunteer work and I had the 10:00 to 1:00 shift this morning.

There was a note on the desk that a guy was looking for a particular book and it had come in. I called hem and let him know. He was very appreciative.

He came in a half hour later. He was my only customer so far and we chatted for a while.
Seemed like a nice guy. He was a snowbird who had retired here (Alabama gulf coast) from New Jersey.

Eventually the conversation got around to Alabama politics which we agreed sucks.
And then he said "I don't even like to watch the news channels any more because all I see is Trump's ugly mug." (Right on, brother.)

And THEN "I voted for him. I thought he would bring change. But he's just a narcissistic asshole. I won't vote for him again."

I said "Thank you."
I hope there are lots out there just like him.

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Met a trump voter at the library today. (Original Post) trof Jul 2019 OP
At a library? - is this The Onion? lame54 Jul 2019 #1
chuckle trof Jul 2019 #3
A tee up for sure JDC Jul 2019 #5
You're funny demosincebirth Jul 2019 #6
That was my first thought dflprincess Jul 2019 #19
Damn, you beat me to it. What's a trumper doing in the library, cruising for little girls? George II Jul 2019 #20
Yeah, my first thought was, Doreen Jul 2019 #25
Thank you. elleng Jul 2019 #2
This gives me hope. Arkansas Granny Jul 2019 #4
What gave me hope was the 4th of July parade in our tiny, red, Iowa town Bettie Jul 2019 #11
Last year and the year before, there weren't any tariffs screwing his base. CaptYossarian Jul 2019 #22
I do believe many former MAGATS will not vote in the next election. Still anti-Democrat but they.... machoneman Jul 2019 #33
I think a lot of people think this IMHO...I've dealt w/ the same in my Ozarks (MO) place, and ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2019 #7
I truly think a LOT of people voted for him simply because... targetpractice Jul 2019 #10
"Everyone" said he was only pandering and would pivot to the center bigbrother05 Jul 2019 #32
Also, His Masters Insist That He Implement Damaging Policies... smb Jul 2019 #37
Some people are pretty smart about everything but not in one thing lunatica Jul 2019 #8
A Trump voter who reads? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 #9
changes of heart like this are why I wish more of us were friendlier towards ex-Trump supporters renate Jul 2019 #12
+ 100 n/t MBS Jul 2019 #16
Well, Doctor Howard Jul 2019 #27
I find myself leaning that way - hard. calimary Jul 2019 #30
O.K., I'll be nicer...but they STILL deserve every Biblical plague and fire and brimstone too! machoneman Jul 2019 #34
Orange, corn laden shit stain sure as fuck ain't gaining any voters. I enjoy hearing these tales.nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #13
The key here is he came from New Jersey. House of Roberts Jul 2019 #14
Hope There Are Many More Like Him colsohlibgal Jul 2019 #15
Hope he's contagious! Karadeniz Jul 2019 #17
Someone from Jersey didn't know Dirty Don... SMC22307 Jul 2019 #18
no shit Doctor Howard Jul 2019 #28
Another sucker for bullshit. triron Jul 2019 #21
Lied to by Fox. Next time say "Then don't watch Fox" EndGOPPropaganda Jul 2019 #23
I would have ended the encounter with . . . gratuitous Jul 2019 #24
You know, I've noticed a change on Twitter too. Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2019 #26
I've noticed that also. Not sure what it means. efhmc Jul 2019 #36
Every vote that flips is one less for them, and one more for us bucolic_frolic Jul 2019 #29
He'll find some rationale to vote for trump in 2020. They always do. Hoyt Jul 2019 #31
There are a lot of people like that - believe it or not FakeNoose Jul 2019 #35
Great ending! BobTheSubgenius Jul 2019 #38
They voted for a 'brand', unfortunately its a brand that sucked..... Historic NY Jul 2019 #39
contratulations Skittles Jul 2019 #40
Thom Hartmann was asking people to call in if they had found any Trump voter who had Doitnow Jul 2019 #41

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
19. That was my first thought
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:02 PM
Jul 2019

but then it turned out this guy had changed his mind about Trump. He may not be the typical cult member after all.

Bettie

(16,086 posts)
11. What gave me hope was the 4th of July parade in our tiny, red, Iowa town
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:17 PM
Jul 2019

We drove our county party float.

Got really "down low" smiles and thumbs up from many older white men.

Only one set of "boos" as we went by, more cheers than usual.

Zero MAGA hats. That was not the case last year or the one before.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
22. Last year and the year before, there weren't any tariffs screwing his base.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:46 PM
Jul 2019

Wait until 2020. As Trump says: stay tuned.

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
33. I do believe many former MAGATS will not vote in the next election. Still anti-Democrat but they....
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:00 AM
Jul 2019

...will register their disdain for Trumpyboy by either a.) not voting at all by staying home or b.) vote down ballot but skip the president's check box altogether.

SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
7. I think a lot of people think this IMHO...I've dealt w/ the same in my Ozarks (MO) place, and ...
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:00 PM
Jul 2019

now when rump's name comes up, nothing...they shake their heads and say nothing...

I guess what can they say? I'm not going to push them or anything like that...that they came about this negative feeling about rump on their own? Amazing transformation...

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
10. I truly think a LOT of people voted for him simply because...
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:09 PM
Jul 2019

...They enjoyed "The Apprentice"... no more thought than that. And, now they regret it.

If I were a pollster I would ask that question.

Full disclosure... I enjoyed The Apprentice sometimes, but I thought Trump was pretty useless on that show.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
32. "Everyone" said he was only pandering and would pivot to the center
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:43 AM
Jul 2019

Many assumed he had some kind of core values based on who he supported in the past (Bill & Hillary) and would return to form if elected.

They all missed the underlying psychosis that drives him to push everything to the limit, then push harder.

He's like Pavlov's dog that once rewarded will keep slobbering regardless of the real consequences.

smb

(3,471 posts)
37. Also, His Masters Insist That He Implement Damaging Policies...
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 12:34 PM
Jul 2019

...so as to weaken America and reduce its ability to counteract Russia.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
8. Some people are pretty smart about everything but not in one thing
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:03 PM
Jul 2019

Politics. Their thinking about it, when they even think about it, is so superficial that they have no idea of how it affects us in our daily life. They go through life taking all their benefits for granted, not understanding how they got them or that they’re losing them.

There are lot more people like that than there are like us. We’re a real minority (those of us who are political junkies).

renate

(13,776 posts)
12. changes of heart like this are why I wish more of us were friendlier towards ex-Trump supporters
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:27 PM
Jul 2019

Needless to say, people who still support him are incorrigible morons who will overlook racism, pederasty, and the worst kind of anti-Christian behavior towards the poor and hungry, just because their pastors tell them that Jesus approves of it all. Or because they like tax cuts more than they like decency. They are fools.

But it's common to still hear people saying, essentially, that people who voted for Trump in 2016 deserve rains of frogs and plagues of locusts, and that because of their choice in the past they're stupid and gullible in the present, and should be shunned forevermore.

If we shun everyone who voted for him in 2016, we're not going to win in 2020.

I'm glad you had a nice conversation with that guy. That's how we win in 2020.

 

Doctor Howard

(22 posts)
27. Well,
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 05:01 AM
Jul 2019

you go ahead and be friendly to them.

I'll keep treating them like soulless, moronic motherfuckers without a shred of decency, character, or respect for human dignity.

Which means I won't deal with them at all.

calimary

(81,197 posts)
30. I find myself leaning that way - hard.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 07:43 AM
Jul 2019

You fuckers voted for this. YOU did this. NOBODY held a gun to your head and forced you to do this. YOU did this. Voluntarily AND even eagerly. And NOW you’re sorry? You’re a little late, ‘eh? You wanted to “burn it all down” and/or “blow it all up.” Did you even bother, for a single second, what it would be like to have to go on living in the destruction and desecration and chaos that you get when you “burn it all down” or “blow it all up”?

How do those ashes taste now?

Happy now? Still gonna stick with him anyway in 2020 because you just can’t bring yourself to vote for a Democrat?

How’s it workin’ out for ya?

I have no faith in these people. Oh they shake their heads and say they’re sorry now. But what future lies will they decide maybe they’ll give him one more chance and then hope for the best?

I have a good friend who just couldn’t resist the bullshit sales pitch because emails or babykillers or whatever bullshit excuses she had. And now that at least seven children have died in the lice and scabies and diapers not changed for days and filth and sickness spreading through the cages (and that’s just who we know about)...

Who’s the babykiller now?

Sorry. I’m just so angry I don’t even want to listen to these people anymore. I don’t trust their “conversions”. All I can think of is how soon they’re gonna be taken in by Captain Forked-Tongue and fall for his fast-talking lies and assorted weasel words and bullshit promises all over again.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
15. Hope There Are Many More Like Him
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:41 PM
Jul 2019

His hard right Neo Nazi base will stick with Orange Twitler no matter what, including shooting someone on 5th Avenue, but the rest of his 2016 supporters are, largely women, especially College educated ones, bailing big time. Heard a pollster say the other day that he is seeing a 2020 Blue Wave that will eclipse the 2018 one. From his lips.....

And if Mr 1776 airports does lose hope he is met leaving, in January 2021, by Law Authorities.

I cannot express how much I detest that “man”.

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
23. Lied to by Fox. Next time say "Then don't watch Fox"
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:50 PM
Jul 2019

"Fox lies to you because its billionaire owner wants you to vote for billionaire tax cuts.

Republicans got what they want. They passed a $2 trillion tax cut for billionaires on a credit card that you and I will pay back. That's why Fox lies about Trump."

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
24. I would have ended the encounter with . . .
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 12:28 AM
Jul 2019

"Thank you. Tell your friends!"

About the book sale, of course.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
26. You know, I've noticed a change on Twitter too.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 03:56 AM
Jul 2019

Usually when I comment on a tRump tweet, I get backlash. A lot of backlash.
But not as much lately.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
29. Every vote that flips is one less for them, and one more for us
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 06:59 AM
Jul 2019

+2 in other words. Things change rapidly if you can flip even .4% of voters because elections are won, or lost, on the margin

FakeNoose

(32,620 posts)
35. There are a lot of people like that - believe it or not
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:15 AM
Jul 2019

A lot of people would have voted D last time, except they didn't like Hillary for whatever reason. Maybe it was hate radio/Fox News brainwashing. It breaks my heart to say this because I always loved Hillary, and I became a Democrat just so I could vote for her in the primary.

But there are a lot of independents - unaffiliated voters - who just decide on a whim and aren't too invested in the outcome. Those are the people (many of them) who went for Chump in 2016, and they won't do it again. They have DEEP REGRETS, and I'll bet many aren't willing to admit how stupid they were before.

Our Party needs to find a way to reach these indifferent & noncommittal voters, the independents who don't care too much for politics. But they can make the difference in the next election. Our candidate must be the person who reaches out and motivates those independents.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
38. Great ending!
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 01:20 PM
Jul 2019

I was ready for it to go much differently, and, frankly, when I read the title, my first thought was "What was he or she doing in a library?" Apparently, he has a mind that can be changed by empirical evidence. Good on him...and good on you for doing what you do!

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
39. They voted for a 'brand', unfortunately its a brand that sucked.....
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 01:38 PM
Jul 2019

low info voters equated the name with supposed success. Little did they know.

Skittles

(153,142 posts)
40. contratulations
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 04:23 PM
Jul 2019

I have yet to meet one of these elusive creatures - well, at least one who will ADMIT they fucked up

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
41. Thom Hartmann was asking people to call in if they had found any Trump voter who had
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 05:58 PM
Jul 2019

changed their opinion of him. One fellow called in---said he and wife make a visit to a major university hospital complex once a year. Upon arriving this year and having scanned the channel choices and found that out of the many listed, Fox was missing. They asked a lady in the lobby why the omission. Upon noticing they weren't complaining---just wanted to know-- she said that the hospital had realized that especially in the evenings when Fox was on patients' blood pressures would go up, they were not getting better and many, in fact, were getting sicker! They then eliminated the channel thru out their system. This was in a very red state.

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