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Every planned raid is in a city controlled by Democrats (Original Post) malaise Jul 2019 OP
Woke up a long time ago. democratisphere Jul 2019 #1
He doesn't need an executive order for this ripcord Jul 2019 #27
The Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amendment prohibits selective enforcement of the laws Ponietz Jul 2019 #29
There is no selective enforcement ripcord Jul 2019 #32
"Every planned raid is in a city controlled by Democrats" is selective enforcement Ponietz Jul 2019 #36
Aren't most large cities.. cannabis_flower Jul 2019 #37
Let's see what happens in El Paso and Ft. Worth, San Diego, Fresno, Okla. City, Jacksonville... Ponietz Jul 2019 #38
Of course it is shanti Jul 2019 #2
Of course, it's a white supremacist "fuck you". Initech Jul 2019 #3
Another reason why I think they are trying to incite violence. Cracklin Charlie Jul 2019 #4
This! mcar Jul 2019 #5
That's not actually true jberryhill Jul 2019 #6
They used to have raids in Key West when I lived there, long before the shitgibbon was president. cwydro Jul 2019 #20
Because they don't want deplorable voters to see what trump's plans ecstatic Jul 2019 #7
I agree, and I will add... Volaris Jul 2019 #46
Screw trump and his ignorant white wing supporters demanding this. Of course, most major cities Hoyt Jul 2019 #8
All part of the narrative of "scary brown cities" guillaumeb Jul 2019 #9
The only reason he is doing this is to show his cult how tough he is. BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #10
Exactly. As the election of 2020 draws nearer, his actions will get worse. Blue_true Jul 2019 #31
To paraphrase the Fellowship of the Ring: Volaris Jul 2019 #50
At this point he knows he will go to prison BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #53
Most major cities are controlled by Dems maxsolomon Jul 2019 #11
Jacksonville, Florida used to be extremely right-wing, from what I understand. Aristus Jul 2019 #12
I guess that's a major city. maxsolomon Jul 2019 #13
Yes, Jacksonville has drifted left decidedly. Blue_true Jul 2019 #33
Jacksonville is an outlier. The entire county is in the city. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #45
Exactly. Phoenix and Tucson are so heavily Democratic that Republicans don't even run grantcart Jul 2019 #42
All of the people targeted have been thru the courts .. PBC_Democrat Jul 2019 #14
This might seem like an off-the-wall idea to you, Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #16
I favor permanent green cards for those that are law abiding. Blue_true Jul 2019 #34
You think the system works? SHRED Jul 2019 #18
Link? Something that doesn't just quote Trump - because he lies. nt AnotherMother4Peace Jul 2019 #25
Fine. But do it in a dignified f*cking way! ecstatic Jul 2019 #52
Excellent. Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #15
But we have people posting today about AOC needing to .....!!!??? rufus dog Jul 2019 #17
DUCK malaise Jul 2019 #28
How about the republican owned farms and factories? keithbvadu2 Jul 2019 #19
And hotels and golf courses? Midnight Writer Jul 2019 #21
check appalachiablue Jul 2019 #44
+1 Nada, zip appalachiablue Jul 2019 #43
He's doing this to use as an excuse duforsure Jul 2019 #22
tRump cleared out the illegals that have been working for him for years pazzyanne Jul 2019 #41
Well, DUH DFW Jul 2019 #23
Yep malaise Jul 2019 #30
To be fair, what urban area is controlled by republicans? Lucky Luciano Jul 2019 #24
Someon the South. Blue_true Jul 2019 #35
As usual he is playing to his base and Liberal cities are easy targets... mitch96 Jul 2019 #26
because ripping migrant workers out of the fields doesn't play well with his base Takket Jul 2019 #39
Lets see if they hit the churches Historic NY Jul 2019 #40
Not necessarily all... firstwife Jul 2019 #47
Love your post malaise Jul 2019 #49
Yes they are bdamomma Jul 2019 #48
We must impeach! Lunabell Jul 2019 #51
How many major cities are controlled by republicans? Nt hughee99 Jul 2019 #54

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
1. Woke up a long time ago.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 05:25 PM
Jul 2019

WTF can be done about it with executive order dictator don calling the shots. I f'ing can't stand rethuglicons.

ripcord

(5,320 posts)
27. He doesn't need an executive order for this
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 06:56 PM
Jul 2019

He is enforcing the law as it is written and without changing them there is nothing of substance that can be done.

ripcord

(5,320 posts)
32. There is no selective enforcement
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:10 PM
Jul 2019

The immigration laws have been upheld repeatedly, ignoring facts doesn't solve anything, we have to change the laws or we are just pissing in the wind,

Ponietz

(2,957 posts)
36. "Every planned raid is in a city controlled by Democrats" is selective enforcement
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:23 PM
Jul 2019

The laws are another matter to be discussed in a separate OP, but if the raids are conducted in only cities with Democratic Party leadership there is much to be done, unless there is a USSC opinion that squarely addresses this issue, in which case I would appreciate your citation.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
37. Aren't most large cities..
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:30 PM
Jul 2019

controlled by Democrats? Even in Texas the cities are blue and the rest of the state is red.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
4. Another reason why I think they are trying to incite violence.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 05:28 PM
Jul 2019

They need conflict to promote their hateful message. Without conflict, no one pays them any attention.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. That's not actually true
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 05:32 PM
Jul 2019

But, hey, what's truth matter these days, amirite?

The mayor of Miami is a Republican.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
20. They used to have raids in Key West when I lived there, long before the shitgibbon was president.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 06:29 PM
Jul 2019

Scooped up lots of East Europeans as well as Central Americans, even Canadians and British. It went on periodically for years. I assume it has continued.

We’d know when the raids were on because Dunkin Donuts would be closed due to lack of employees, none of the hotel housekeeping staff showed up, etc., etc.

I’ll bet they’ll be down there too.

ecstatic

(32,677 posts)
7. Because they don't want deplorable voters to see what trump's plans
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 05:33 PM
Jul 2019

*REALLY* look like when implemented. How would deplorables react to the kidnapping of people they know, love and had no idea were undocumented? Who knows? Afterall, they are deplorable. But clearly, it's a risk dump doesn't want to take.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
46. I agree, and I will add...
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:31 PM
Jul 2019

'If ICE comes here and clears the place out, Ill have to pick my own produce and cut my own lawn...pResident LovesAmerica would NEVER make my racist Republican ass suffer such an un-white indignity...'

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. Screw trump and his ignorant white wing supporters demanding this. Of course, most major cities
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 05:34 PM
Jul 2019

have Democratic governments. I think that is good, except in cases like this. Hope trump's purge fails, and courts do their job.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
10. The only reason he is doing this is to show his cult how tough he is.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 05:42 PM
Jul 2019

His entire mind is focused on reelection and every political action/decision is a campaign move. He lost the census decision by the SCOTUS and needs to look strong and tough for his base. Everything he does from now on is a show for his base to get reelected and not to run a govt.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
31. Exactly. As the election of 2020 draws nearer, his actions will get worse.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:09 PM
Jul 2019

For him it is all about taking personal advantage of something, he does not give a shit about collateral damage.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
50. To paraphrase the Fellowship of the Ring:
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:41 PM
Jul 2019

'...his very freedom is bound to his reelection, and so his reelection MUST succeed. Fascism has returned, and Trump needs only this reelection to cover all the lands in a SECOND Darkness. He is seeking it, seeking it; all his thought is bent on it. Nancy, he must NEVER FIND IT....'

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
53. At this point he knows he will go to prison
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:20 PM
Jul 2019

and lose his assets if he doesn't win. As you said, he is desperate and this is making him extremely dangerous every single day until the election.

maxsolomon

(33,281 posts)
11. Most major cities are controlled by Dems
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 05:47 PM
Jul 2019

Because that's where us Librulz live.

Trying to think of a city that isn't. Heck, Salt Lake City is run by a Dem.

Aristus

(66,309 posts)
12. Jacksonville, Florida used to be extremely right-wing, from what I understand.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 05:50 PM
Jul 2019

But I've heard even they have drifted to the left in recent years.

maxsolomon

(33,281 posts)
13. I guess that's a major city.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 05:52 PM
Jul 2019

Being in the opposite corner of the Lower 48, it never really enters my mind except during the NFL season.

I did say "most", though. Not "all".

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
33. Yes, Jacksonville has drifted left decidedly.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:13 PM
Jul 2019

But it now has a republican Mayor because the democrat before him made a fucking mess of things. When our party takes over a region or city, we as voters need to insure that we are electing competent, ethical democrats to lead, not idiots that end up causing republicans to get elected.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
45. Jacksonville is an outlier. The entire county is in the city.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:22 PM
Jul 2019

An unusual situation. We’re its traditional downtown area it own city it would be blue.

But all the suburbs in the county are actually in the city limits.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
42. Exactly. Phoenix and Tucson are so heavily Democratic that Republicans don't even run
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:06 PM
Jul 2019

Mayoral race for Phoenix just finished with 2 Dems against each other

PBC_Democrat

(401 posts)
14. All of the people targeted have been thru the courts ..
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 06:01 PM
Jul 2019

and have had deportation orders issued.

What is your solution?

They had their day in court .. and were told to leave.

Are you suggesting that we, as a country, just ignore that fact?

Mr.Bill

(24,263 posts)
16. This might seem like an off-the-wall idea to you,
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 06:07 PM
Jul 2019

but how about if we start giving more people a path to citizenship. Not if they are convicted criminals, of course. But if they are law abiding citizens dragging them away from there families, some of whom may be citizens, at dawn is not a good idea in my opinion.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
34. I favor permanent green cards for those that are law abiding.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:16 PM
Jul 2019

And as long as they obey the laws of their locality and the country, they are welcome here. Those people have kids that were born here and are citizens and kids that are not citizens but only know this country as home. Those families should not be broken up.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
18. You think the system works?
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 06:23 PM
Jul 2019

WTH?

People don't get notified sometimes.
Sent to wrong address, etc...

Many mistakes in this FUBAR system.

ecstatic

(32,677 posts)
52. Fine. But do it in a dignified f*cking way!
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:05 PM
Jul 2019

Not with swat teams raiding homes in the middle of the night and forcefully kidnapping anyone who happens to be at that address. How would you like it if you were (accidentally) swooped up and thrown in the back of the van as well? And what if someone is wrongfully deported and doesn't have the funds to get a lawyer and prove his/her identity?

Many people believe that it is impossible for a U.S. citizen to be mistaken for an undocumented immigrant. However, each year hundreds of American citizens endure this violation of civil rights. ICE’s documentation failures, overburdened immigration courts and lack of attorney representation for defendants play a significant role in the wrongful deportation and ICE holds of U.S. citizens.

https://www.carlsonattorneys.com/news-and-update/wrongfully-deported/

Mr.Bill

(24,263 posts)
15. Excellent.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 06:03 PM
Jul 2019

Large cities controlled by Democrats is where they will get the least cooperation and be least effective and successful. It will be on display what a bunch of inept clowns they are.

I find it interesting that when the Mayor of Oakland, CA warned her city about impending ICE sweeps recently the rebublicans all screamed that she was endangering the live of the agents, blah, blah, Treason! blah, blah, Hate America, blah, blah. But when Trump gives prior notification, silence from all of them.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
17. But we have people posting today about AOC needing to .....!!!???
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 06:08 PM
Jul 2019

Game on Mother Fuckers, and for those of you posting the ignorant shit.

You are either ignorant or a a troll.

DUCK!

keithbvadu2

(36,731 posts)
19. How about the republican owned farms and factories?
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 06:25 PM
Jul 2019

How about the republican owned farms and factories?

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
22. He's doing this to use as an excuse
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 06:41 PM
Jul 2019

And to create conflict with. He wants chaos and conflict so he can start people protesting, then he'll declare martial law to have absolute power , over the GOP and Dems, and over the SC. He will next start on all minorities that aren't white, doing things to hurt them badly with. He will not stop until he hurts everyone except the most corrupt, like Putin has done in Russia. He demands everyone to be as hate driven and corrupt as he is , or else.

pazzyanne

(6,546 posts)
41. tRump cleared out the illegals that have been working for him for years
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:03 PM
Jul 2019

a couple of months age. He was setting the stage for exactly these actions that he is taking now. On a slightly different but still similar issue, I do not think deporting the families of people serving in the US military is a smart idea either. We need to create a path to citizenship for people who are showing they are good potential citizens for the US, not turn ICE and Border Patrol on them.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
23. Well, DUH
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 06:43 PM
Jul 2019

If the Republicans could find a justification to storm the City Hall of each city with a SWAT team with shoot-to-kill orders, you had better believe they would do it.

Yes, it HAS gotten to that point.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
35. Someon the South.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:20 PM
Jul 2019

But the republicans are on a short leash. Jacksonville Florida, Miami Florida, Orange County Florida (was) are several prime examples.

mitch96

(13,885 posts)
26. As usual he is playing to his base and Liberal cities are easy targets...
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 06:51 PM
Jul 2019

Hitting two birds with one stone... fucker.......
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firstwife

(115 posts)
47. Not necessarily all...
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:37 PM
Jul 2019

I live in the Benton and Franklin County area in eastern Washington, you know, the part they want to break off at the mountains and turn into a state called "Liberty". That part of Washington. Those good ol boys are just Itchin to put on their black vests, load up their weapons, get into their armored vehicles and head out to all the farms this weekend, round 'em up some brown people and haul 'em away. Right at the peak of summer harvest. And our local sheriffs and police are More than willing to patriotically provide support and assistance. While we do have a growing segment of the population who are Democrats, and I believe a strong democratic presence here, and much more diversity than ever before, we are surrounded by the money people and all the farmers who love their MAGA hats and their broken MAGA promises. I am sick at the thought of what is going to happen. Trying to find out if there is some way I can help - looking into what the federal penalties and laws surrounding this are. But, I know what my deceased former bombardier father would say about this administration if he were here. I know exactly. He would say, "Sons of bitches."

bdamomma

(63,822 posts)
48. Yes they are
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:38 PM
Jul 2019

They listed the states sound like blue states to me. They want to round up Democrats, it will get to that, if the country doesn't wake the fuck up.

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