My heart is breaking for my town tonight.

[ooky]

I live less than 3 miles from that building full of chanting Nazis. What fools they are. Ignorant fools. They think this is one big social. They may as well be chanting "take our democracy". They are as stupid as 1930s Germany. Unbelievable. I served in the Navy to protect our democracy. This is something I never dreamed I would ever see. This sucks.

[FoxNewsSucks]

1. No shit.

I can only imagine what the remaining WW2 veterans must think.

[olegramps]

48. It reminds me of the Nazi rallies that I have seen on documentaries.

You just have to change the name from Jew to any person who is not lily white. I wonder when they are going to propose test for the determination of racial purity. I know I am old and not totally up to date. But, I remember when we had Civics classes. We had to be acquainted with the Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights. How bills were formulated and passed through the congress, etc. At least we had to have a working knowledge of government. Do they still have these requirements? I have assumed that it would be the normal practice. I am going to check with my grandkids.

[FoxNewsSucks]

58. I had a civics class,

it wasn't mandatory but nearly everyone took it. We also had "social studies" almost every grade, and that covered history and a little civics.

I don't think it's covered much now.

Also, so many people have done the 23&Me or Ancestry, that a dictator would just seize those records. Of course, those companies have probably already sold the info to the government.

[MontanaMama]

2. I am so sorry.

I remember when the motherfucker invaded my city last year. It was such a violation. No other way to describe it.

[maddiemom]

42. And does he owe your town money?

[MontanaMama]

53. Yes he does.

Around $12,000 and some change as I understand it. We will never see it.

[madaboutharry]

3. I just can't understand it.

Who are these people? What is it that would cause them to support this lowlife and chant “Send her back?”

It makes me sick and depressed.

[slumcamper]

6. Cult of the Ignorant and Hateful Narcissists?

[ooky]

7. They've been out tailgating since 10 AM this morning, like they are

at a damn football game. To come and chant that a woman who is representing and exercising the most American values of democracy should be deported for doing so. This shows that they haven't got a clue about what democracy is or what that flag they are waving stands for. This is so sad.

[pangaia]

16. One day these groups will become violent mobs.

[lunatica]

27. They're too old, lazy and stupid

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Trump serves the purpose of entertaining them like the Romans watching gladiators kill each other and seeing Christians get eaten by lions. The Emperor thought they would love him, but they served no purpose.

If they can’t do what it takes to get good work, like go to free Junior College, and just sit around blaming others for their failures you think he’s going to motivate them to act like an army with his clown show? Sure he whips up their hate, but if you look at the crowds behind him they aren’t angry or upset. They’re ecstatic, riding the high of their lives. That’s their addiction.

And if you look at them you can see they’re too old too. They sit behind him with bizarre grins, looking at the back of his head while he speechifies to the audience in front of him. They’re like trained monkeys, throwing feces at each other.

[maddiemom]

44. Your take on the mood at these rallies totally nailed it.

They're having FUN! Just because they're old, lazy and stupid, however, does not make them harmless. There's a lot of potential damage that can result from mob mentality.

[pangaia]

45. You are right...I guess my poorly made idea was that, perhaps not these particular

blobs of protoplasm, but.... there WILL BE violent mobs...

Think where all this is going.

violent words and actions becoming more acceptable
acting out...
a good chance trump stays in power
senate?
LEO.. which is basically right wing to begin with..
military..ditto
fascists continuing their taking over the courts
gov agency heads all belonging to 'the MAGA Party'
nat emergency
martial law

feel free to add the obvious.....

[lunatica]

67. Well the obvious is that there is a potential for violence

in the mix. But that same potential is in all of us simply because we belong to the human race. Can he incite real damage in the name of himself? I’m pretty skeptical about that. It’s more likely that isolated nuts will become violent, just as the few examples so far. But to convince 40% of Americans to shoot their liberal neighbors is pretty unlikely.

[pangaia]

69. So was Bergen-Bergen

[lunatica]

70. That was a concentration camp

but we’re not there yet. Though I fear that kind of history can repeat itself. Unless we stop it before we get that far. I’m talking about today’s world. Tomorrow depends on what we do today.

[cwydro]

75. Bergen-Belsen.

[certainot]

54. they listen to chickenhawk fascist blowhards on the radio but dems don't even poll for it

so that aspect remains invisible

it's much harder to imagine this crap if you're only checking fox once in a while to see what they're doing. turn on any political talk station and there's a 20-1 chance it's RW and limbaugh has been leading all the national and local blowhards all on regular attacks of AOC and omar. and why wouldn't russians be calling those shows to stir things up?

if dems want to get their back boycotts of all RW radio and protests at the universities that support them will be highly offensive to the cons

[Dulcinea]

87. This, I think, sums it up.

"Hell, make ‘em cry, make ‘em laugh, make ‘em think you’re their weak erring pal, or make ‘em think you’re God-Almighty. Or make ‘em mad. Even mad at you. Just stir ‘em up, it doesn’t matter how or why, and they’ll love you and come back for more. Pinch ‘em in the soft place. They aren’t alive, most of ‘em, and haven’t been alive in twenty years. Hell, their wives have lost their teeth and their shape, and likker won’t set on their stomachs, and they don’t believe in god, so it’s up to you to give ‘em something to stir ‘em up and make ‘em feel alive again. Just for half an hour. That’s what they come for. Tell ‘em anything. But for Sweet Jesus’ sake don’t try to improve their minds.”

--Robert Penn Warren, "All the King's Men"

[madaboutharry]

88. Thank you for that.

I think that is about right.

[kimbutgar]

4. It's when you wish a meteor would hit the stadium, wiping out all that hate.

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[Blue_true]

11. That would be nice. nt

[elocs]

46. Hate is an idea, you can't destroy an idea no matter if it is good or evil. n/t

[lunatica]

68. Actually hate is an emotion

It’s not a concept that the higher brain grapples with. There is no intellectual explanation to define it or justify it. Sure, words can incite it, but the words are not aimed at creating a thought. They’re aimed at whipping up one of the strongest emotions people can have. It’s easy to see it happening in Trump’s rallies. Thanks one reason he has so many rallies. He really thinks he can create an army of raging zombies who will do his bidding. But as we can see his magical powers of persuasion to get his supporters to go forth and smite his enemies doesn’t seem to create the mob he wants. One or two deranged killers doesn’t make a mob. He wants a mob.

He overestimates his powers.

He needs, like every other dictator in history, the military to support him so they can kill those who fight back. When we see that happen we can worry. But at least so far he only seems to have alienated the military.

[bdamomma]

78. Yes we only wish

they just want a Daddy to take care of them,...….a very sick mental case that he is. WTF this has got to stop.

[flygal]

5. He was in my town last year and half my relatives were there.

It just sucks. And of course it made international news because of something horribly racist he said.

[BigmanPigman]

72. I feel badly for you.

Do you still attend family functions with them?

[Initech]

8. It just gets worse and worse and worse.

There's no low, no bottom they won't stoop to. And after tonight, I really fear for Rep. Omar's safety. If something happens to her, it should be treated as an act of war.

[ProfessionalLeft]

33. I hate to say it

We're already at war. Right now it's a cold war. But it appears to be heating up.

I fear for our democracy.

Seeing them chanting "Send her back" made me violently ill. I just couldn't believe it's gotten this bad.

And unless something is done to stem the tide, it's gonna snowball out of control. To the unthinkable.

[FiveGoodMen]

59. Much of this is coming from the churches

[unc70]

9. Condolences from Chapel Hill

I know how violated we all feel. (I grew up in Eastern NC and spent a lot of time around Greenville.)

[dsc]

10. I live in Goldsboro and frankly am disgusted

It is hard to see what this state has become under Republican, gerrymandered rule. At least we are in the process of digging out.

[Blue_true]

12. Now you know what we are up against.

That is why people like Nina Turner, Cornell West, et al need to be tuned out. When we have a nominee, regardless of who that person is, ALL of us must give everything we have to electing our nominee President. Our future is truly bleak if we don't do that, anyone who does not recognize that isn't a person that we should waste time with.

[ooky]

13. Agree.

Everybody has to come together on our nominee this time no matter who it is. There are too many nitwits who will vote for this prick to take anything for granted. Getting him out is too important.

[ancianita]

14. I hope you check in with your neighbors to find out how they feel, and express this to them.

Because it's not enough to be right by yourself. You could unite neighbors and others to stand up for the "united" part of United States. The part that allows these right wingers their freedom of speech. But that's all.

Unity never has to mean uniformity. It does mean that, no matter how much we differ, no one will suffer for it.

[ooky]

20. Good point. Good point for all of us. n/t

[badhair77]

15. Some of them go from one rally to the next.

They follow him like Parrotheads follow Jimmy Buffet. Crazy. They could use their time and resources to better the world. Instead they follow the orange one so they can chant and wear their red hats. Sad.

[lunatica]

28. They're addicts and follow him to get their fix.

He’s their drug of choice. Never disappoints. But other than get their rage fix he doesn’t give them a thing. He doesn’t even like them and he certainly doesn’t respect them.

[True Blue American]

39. Paid followers.

It is clear. Look at the long haired blondes behind him. Same ones and plants in the audience.

[Maru Kitteh]

66. So it's possible he might have a harem of pseudo-Ivanka dedicated road-tail?

I could see that.

[Mickju]

17. Yes, it's really sickening and scary.

I can't believe it is happening.

[Niagara]

18. My heart is breaking for my country

What happened to united we stand?

Thank you for your service, Ooky.

[ooky]

22. That too.

It was just felt like more of a gut punch when I heard that chant coming from my own community. It felt different than the usual magat rallies.

[cyndensco]

43. I'm waiting for the chant to morph to "Send them back"

[Phoenix61]

19. Your town. My country. WTF happened?

I don’t understand how there are that many people filled with that much hate.

[hobby10113]

31. This crap the rethglicans have been spewing for a long time

I remember the one idiot at a Rmoney rally that had a t-shirt on the back that said put white back in the White House.

I feel so sick and disgusted. I just hope some sanity comes back once the orange $hitstain is gone!

[Scarsdale]

37. I think about the two

grinning idiots with beer bellies, wearing shirts that said "I'd rather be Russian than Democrat" Great, send them to Russia.

[True Blue American]

40. That picture was in Zanesville, Ohio

Republican heaven.

[Hestia]

52. I think it all culminated with the SCOTUS ruling in 2000 about stopping vote counting in Fla,

giving the presidency to the first usurper, proving that anyone CAN become president but also proving SHOULD THEY become president.

Though, it really started with the asshole Newt in 1994. He is one of the most hate-filled people in the US and his cancer has only spread since then, thanks in part, to the internet and flamed with hate rhetoric with radio. Ever since then, the airwaves has been filled with anti-Democratic rhetoric, ad nauseum.

This shit has really been going for 25 years, unrelenting. And the beat goes on...

[FiveGoodMen]

60. Preachers

Southern Baptist ones, especially.

That's the same outfit that pre-approved Dubya's attack on Iraq in the name of gawd.

[PlanetBev]

21. I feel for you

As soon as I heard their new “send her back” chant, I broke into tears 😭. How long can we live with this?

[ooky]

24. Yea, its shameful. I felt shame. Its not democracy. If its not democracy,

what is it? What is this evil?

[Archae]

23. I'm grateful he's ignored Sheboygan.

Granted, he was just in Milwaukee (about 60 miles south,) just last week.

You'd think he'd prefer being here, being as conservative a town as Sheboygan is.

(Our congresscritter is Glenn Grothman)

There really isn't any place available here in Sheboygan for the crowds Trump attracts.

[TeamPooka]

25. Back in the olden days a public hanging would bring vendors and a big crowd too.

[KPN]

30. Yup. Cut from the same cloth. Haters; people who

blame others for everything that feels wrong in their lives. And revel in acting on and seeing those they think are responsible punished to assuage their hatred. Sickening.

[Duppers]

26. You're in Greenville, NC. From TN here.

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My home state has gone to hell. There's now 0 chance that anyone like Al Gore could be elected in the state.


Heartbroken here too.

[study war no more]

50. TN too!

There are two tiny pockets of blue, but the rest is venomous red. I am fortunate to live in the blue speck, but I have to work with a lot of others and it's horrible.
And don't get me started on my own siblings. They are a lost cause.

[KPN]

29. Can I post this on Facebook? It will be anonymous.

I won’t post source or even this website.

This just needs to be heard.

[ooky]

32. Feel free, I'm sure there are many more.

[DeminPennswoods]

34. Think of it as the circus coming to town

because that's all it is. The attendees come for the show. Like a poster above pointed out, some of them are groupies who follow Trump from "rally" to "rally". Once inside, they know their role and play it. It's just a good old time. Don't take them seriously, if you talk to a rally-goer, ask them a question, then respond with a big belly laugh. It'll make you feel better and drive them crazy.

[BumRushDaShow]

36. I think a good illustration of one of these "groupies" was mail bomber Cesar Sayoc

who lived out of his van and traveled from rally to rally.



But the problem here is that they get enhanced media coverage that serves to amplify their numbers beyond what I hope in reality, is much less than depicted. I also hope that showing them would generate more disgust among the population tuning all of this out, than actually helping to rally more closet racists into joining them.

[Behind the Aegis]

35. I used to work for ECU.

I know many of my friends, still there, are not at all happy.

[Timmygoat]

38. I too am ashamed

Trump to bully is actually a coward, too cowardly to join the military and fight in Viet Nam, well my husband did, he was awarded the Bronze Star for bravery, he saved many lives. He later paid for his service in the Delta region by contracting cancer from the Agent Orange, I cared for him with 24 hour nursing till he died.
When I look at the draft dodger in chief it makes me sick, too cowardly to serve, his weapon is calling women names, only people who cannot hit back.
Never forget that his father could not go back to his own country on account of cowardice, he would not serve either. So he went to Canada and ran brothels.
Seems like Trump is continuing a family tradition.

[Submariner]

41. I hear you for sure

I served on the diesel-electric boats so we came into port almost weekly. I did not suffer with long patrols as much as the nuke.

During the '60s, and beyond, my nuclear boat brothers of the phin did not surface during their 90 day patrols in boat fast attack and missile boats. Sailors cruising the oceans at 1,000 feet, dead silent, cut off from the world, to deter the USSR.

Not long ago I turned on the TV news to see the traitorous republican senators travel to Moscow to fellate Putin in support of Putin's bitch, Donnie boy Trump. And many of the republicans pols were the draft dodgers of my era. Sickening to watch.

It makes me feel like all those deterrent patrols, and the hundreds, if not thousands, of families destroyed marriages, because of the long long patrols, were not worth it. All that wasted time to now support a racist raping draft dodging f*cking punk coward whose Mommy got him 5 fake bone spur deferments.

[ooky]

57. I hear you too.

What I don't understand is why not all veterans are not screaming and instead supporting this asshat.

[elocs]

47. If defeating Trump, his hate and rabid followers is not enough to motivate the Left

to unite and vote for the Democratic candidate, what would it ever take? This will be a starkly, crystal clear election--it's either going to be Trump or whoever is the Democratic candidate, that's it.
What sane person would ever want to see him reelected?

[Schmice3]

49. some of the good people from the other side, no doubt. n/t

[PJMcK]

51. My heart is sick, too

As a New Yorker, I've had to watch Trump's shit-show since the 1980s. He's only gotten worse with time and it's unfathomable to me how so many Americans can support him. There is nothing about him that is respectable. Nothing. And yet his followers believe he's divinely inspired!

Too many of our fellow citizens have diseases in the hearts and minds. That sucks.

[Bayard]

55. Not to take their side or anything,

But I'm wondering how many of the Nazi kids are just falling in with what their "friends" are doing. Trying to fit in somewhere, when they can't get in with the popular kids.

If you get them alone, I bet a lot of them have no idea what the Holocaust was about.

[ooky]

56. You are absolutely right.

I'm sure that for many of these people and kids this was just one big social. They don't know their democracy is under attack or that by their own actions they are feeding it.

[The Wizard]

61. There's no nice way to say

Trump is Der Fuhrer, and the chanting drones are willing to shove others into gas chambers .

[GoneOffShore]

63. I keep posting this on Facebook and Quora

As Werner Hertzog tweeted in 2017 - Dear America: You are waking up, as Germany once did, to the awareness that 1/3 of your people would kill another 1/3, while 1/3 watches.

[BlueJac]

62. K&R

[grantcart]

64. Most have travelled hundreds of miles to come.

[Piratedog]

65. I live there,too.

Sickens me he’s in our town and at my university.
However, the city usually votes blue so there is some hope there.

[ooky]

82. ...

[Ohioboy]

71. I just heard the liar in chief claim he tried to stop that rant

It was a total lie! I just saw the video. He didn't try to stop it at all, in fact he kept it going. Trump disgusts me on so many levels.

[mnhtnbb]

73. That building full of chanting Nazis does NOT represent your town in

Pitt County--which is where Greenville is located-- that voted for Hillary by 7.6% over that traitorous sack of orange $hit in 2016.

Here are the numbers straight from the NC Board of Elections for Pitt County

Hillary Clinton DEM 41,824 51.94%
Donald J. Trump REP 35,691 44.32%

https://er.ncsbe.gov/?election_dt=11/08/2016&county_id=74&office=ALL&contest=0

They may represent Nazis from elsewhere in the state since there were not enough blue votes to overcome him in 2016. We can change that. Remember Obama won here in 2008.

[cwydro]

74. I'm in NC too. What's the name of your local paper?

I’d really like to write a letter to the editor about how Greenville has embarrassed the entire state.

I live in a red county too, so I feel your pain.

[mnhtnbb]

76. I think one of the top Dem candidates needs to schedule a stop in NC

and we ALL turn out--regardless of whether the person who comes is our first choice--so we can show the country that those chanting racists do NOT represent NC.

[cwydro]

79. I went to see Hillary when she came to UNCC; it was a great experience.

I also went to see the orange abomination; many, many protesters outside, and the rally was sparsely attended. That was back when it seemed impossible he would win, but it still nauseated me.

It was really disgusting, and it wasn’t just old people.

[ooky]

83. I was thinking the same thing today. We need to show that this is not what we are about

that we are a thoughtful and caring and patriotic community, and there are many more of us that reject that shitshow that was on display last night.

[ooky]

81. The Daily Reflector

[cwydro]

84. Thanks! Hey, let us know how they cover the rally.

Might be interesting.

[ooky]

85. Most of the local commentary I have heard today has taken the tone of shame

and embarrassment. You are still talking about a locality that went for Hillary in 2016 which includes East Carolina University. I've linked an article from the Reflector with some general comments from local leaders about the chanting and its mostly pretty negative, you can read here.
http://www.reflector.com/News/2019/07/18/Rally-chant-spark-outrage-city-leaders-respond.html

[cwydro]

89. Thanks! Good to hear.

I’d forgotten ECU is down there. Kind of like the mountains. Little patches of blue stuck between the red.

[YOHABLO]

77. Why do American tax payers have to fund the bill for his campaign rallies? It's wrong.

[warmfeet]

80. I was so discouraged about this last night, I seriously contemplated

starting my own immigration process - to Canada.

I understand that this is not an easy or simple process. I do have relatives in Canada, however, that would be able to help.

I feel a little bit better today. I want to fight the assholes here. It's my damn country too.

[samnsara]

86. write a letter to your editor of the local paper