Deli Owner "Free side when you say send her back!"

[Demovictory9]

John Canesa, the owner of Canesa's Brooklyn Heros deli in Clayton, posted the comment to his personal Facebook page. "Meatballs made with beef today in case we offend any of our overly sensitive pork haters!! Free side when you say send her back! #canesasbrooklynheros," he wrote.



https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/clayton-canesas-brooklyn-heros-send-her-back-trump-14111966.php

Sara Zendenham, the KTVU reporter who broke the story, wrote on Twitter that she was in touch with Canesa on Saturday. She reported that Canesa said that he's a father of three and he's been dealing with threats since his Facebook post.

She said he sent her a link to a Facebook live he said he did addressing the controversy, but the link is no longer working. It seems that his personal Facebook page has been deactivated or made private.

[ck4829]

1. "he's a father of three and he's been dealing with threats"... and?

Ilhan Omar's a mother of three, weird how none of the "send her back" people care about that when they send her threats though.

[Phoenix61]

2. Guess that didn't work out so well for him.

Amazing that a business owner would blast racist crap out on social media then be shocked that most people don’t think that way.

[dalton99a]

5. +1. Being a racist asshole may be hazardous to your career

[dalton99a]

3. John Canesa:

[Collimator]

4. Canesa? Sounds like an Italian name.

Maybe the greasy haired Dago should go back to where he came from.


And, yeah, I am an American of Italian descent, so that was facetious. The only thing that pisses me off more than my relatives and other Italian-Americans thinking like this guy is knowing that he took the Absolutely Best Thing about being Italian--the food--and made it about hate.

[sheshe2]

6. I just looked up the history.

Canesa, perhaps, most likely Italian.

He should read the immigration of his people here.

https://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroommaterials/presentationsandactivities/presentations/immigration/italian8.html

Attacks on Italians were not limited to the printed page, however. From the late 1880s, anti-immigrant societies sprang up around the country, and the Ku Klux Klan saw a spike in membership. Catholic churches and charities were vandalized and burned, and Italians attacked by mobs. In the 1890s alone, more than 20 Italians were lynched.

One of the bloodiest episodes took place in New Orleans in 1891. When the chief of police was found shot to death on the street one night, the mayor blamed “Sicilian gangsters” and rounded up more than 100 Sicilian Americans. Eventually, 19 were put on trial and, as the nation’s Italian Americans watched nervously, were found not guilty for lack of evidence. Before they could be freed, however, a mob of 10,000 people, including many of New Orleans’ most prominent citizens, broke into the jail. They dragged 11 Sicilians from their cells and lynched them, including two men jailed on other offenses. Italians worldwide were outraged, but the U.S. press generally approved of the action. It was the largest single mass lynching in U.S. history.

Anti-immigrant sentiment continued until the 1920s, when severe restrictions on immigration were put into place by the U.S. Congress. When this legislation passed, the great era of Italian immigration came to an end.

We are an nation of immigrants and our ancestors came here at one point in time. I think people should reread history before they open their mouths to spew hate.

[TheBlackAdder]

31. 100 years ago, racist Americans were saying the same thing about Italians.

[DeminPennswoods]

32. The proper insult for

American's of Italian descent is "get back on the boat".

[Wounded Bear]

40. It's an American tradition...

The most recent immigrants get to be treated like shit by the ones who got here a generation before. Irish, German, Italian. All the European groups took their turns except the English, I guess.

One of these centuries, maybe we can fix that, but maybe it's human nature to want to hate on someone.

[Collimator]

57. Your initial observation is certainly correct.

I have done a bit of reading about the Italian-American experience. The first wave of "dagos/guineas/wops" really took it on the chin from Irish-Americans. The Irish-Americans had come over in large numbers a generation or so before. From "Irish need not apply" to becoming a force to be reckoned with in institutions like the Catholic Church and local police and fire departments, those children of immigrants used the same step-on-the-lower-guy's-neck strategy.

I don't know if it's human nature to want to hate on someone; but it is a human need to belong to a group. The advantages the group confers on the individual can mean the difference between life and death. So, yeah, group-think is easy to slip into.

A good book to read on the subject is "How the Irish Became White." It's a little dry to read; the title is "sexier" than the writing style. But it really addresses the issue that "whiteness" is a social status and not a physical descriptor. As Conan O'Brian once said, "The Irish are the [physically] whitest people on earth."

Another book that addresses this subject in its contents is "Everything But Money", written by Sam Levenson in 1966. I found that on my parents' bookshelf when I was a young girl. Unfortunately, I think my parents skipped the parts where Levenson discusses why some people don't feel like "somebody" if everyone else is also allowed to be "somebody."

Oh, and by the way, I had to look up the proper spelling of "guinea" for this little post*. According to whoever wrote that exerpt, "Guinea [is] The most vile racial slur that can be used against an Italian-American. . . [it implies] that Italian-Americans are non-whites. . ."

Just reading that makes me want to use a very vile word. Being white isn't some impressive acomplishment. I'm proud to be Italian, but I am more proud of being a human being who doesn't think that way.

* Yes, I know that this is not a "little post". Almost nothing that I write ever is.

[ProudLib72]

7. Bye bye motherfucker!

I'm sending thoughts and prayers that he loses his business.


Edit: They are killing him on Yelp: https://www.yelp.com/biz/canesas-brooklyn-heros-clayton?osq=canesa%27s

[Baltimike]

49. This Trump chump works a five hour day and complains, doesn't he? nt

[TeamPooka]

8. Note to business owners: combining marketing and racism is not a good advertising plan.

[Initech]

10. And if you want to keep your business, you should probably stay out of politics altogether.

At least for the next few years.

[Initech]

9. God this sounds like it could be from the Onion.

Real life and fiction gets blurred more every day. Oh and fuck this guy.

[mr_lebowski]

11. He did this in CLAYTON? Like Clayton, CA? The East Bay Clayton?

That's right over the hill from where my folks live and where one of my best friends has lived for 20+ years.

It used to be a backwater when I was a kid but it's MASSIVELY grown, and property values skyrocketed. It's a beautiful little boojie area nowadays.

It's also pretty damn liberal.

This was a REALLY REALLY dumb thing to say, when running a business in Clayton ... rent there ain't cheap, and there isn't many places for businesses to set up shop.

[Demovictory9]

12. yes, he posted this in deep blue California. amazing.

[mr_lebowski]

14. Yeah, once I thought about it a minute I remembered ... Clayton is basically a Seeno development

Like the whole town was built by the Seeno family mid-20th century.

Who are a CORRUPT AS FUCK multi-billionaire real-estate development family .. who happen to be Italian ... like this guy. They are straight-up mobsters, not even kidding.

He probably knows them ... maybe even family ... I'd wager they are his landlords, and he likely knows his spot is safe no matter what.

Course, one does not want to fall TOO FAR into arrears with a group like the Seeno's ... which is probably why he's begun pleading about his family and such ... if I were to hazard a guess ...

[Wounded Bear]

41. All the blue states have their red areas and Trump country...

The true split is more rural/urban than state by state. The blue states just have bigger population centers.

[mr_lebowski]

46. Very true, but I'm here to tell ya, saying this in Clayton is only marginally less dumb

than saying it Berkeley, and way way dumber than saying it in, say Bakersfield. Although the Latin population in Bakersfield would be much higher, I guarantee it's a much more racist town than Clayton as well, overall.

[Wounded Bear]

47. My California time was spent in Orange County...

so I'll take your word for it.

It's kind of stupid to link that kind of racism and politics to your business anyway, especially if it depends on the public.

[Demovictory9]

58. Orange County is now blue, crossed over with 2018 election

[Wounded Bear]

61. Yeah, I saw that...

I left in 2005 for bluer pastures.

[cally]

39. I know. He will lose business

and a large part of his customer base. Some of these areas are not completely democratic or liberal but the entire Bay Area is multi cultural.

[Retrograde]

13. I think we should send her back

He's talking about Melania, right? AFAIK she entered the country on sketchy terms - unless we see her immigration records I say Send Her Back!

[rockfordfile]

15. The guy is un-American. Those words are something a person who hates democracy would say

[ooky]

33. They are all un-American. This is a fact getting buried in all their racism

but it needs the same amount of coverage. They are anti-democracy, anti-liberty, constitution hating un-Americans. They want to re-write the constitution to change the values that our founding fathers intended. They want to bury the free speech rights of all who do not agree with their ideology. They are fascists. I do not know why every time they yell "socialism" we aren't yelling back "fascism". There is way more evidence they want to turn the U.S. into a fascist state than we want to turn it into a socialist state.

[bdamomma]

36. They are the minority.

Let's call them out. They are fascists, do they know what that means.

[ooky]

43. Do they know what "socialism" means?

I don't believe they do, but they sure like to repeat it. For those who don't know what fascism means its time they learn they are supporting the American Fascist Party, and what that means for their liberty.

[bdamomma]

45. That's the whole thing

they don't understand how living in a dictatorship is living against their own interests. tRump is a master con artist and propagandist. That's why we are so different from them they just buy into the lies and decent and we don't buy.

[safeinOhio]

16. The White Album

Everywhere there's lots of piggies living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner with their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon

[SeattleVet]

17. Send her back!

[pecosbob]

18. Wave goodbye to your livelihood, asshole.

[whistler162]

19. Does that include sending Melania's

[arents back also?

[KY_EnviroGuy]

20. This clearly demonstrates why the founding fathers provided in the Constitution....

for the basic principle of "separation of business communications and state"......

Just feeds more divisiveness and hatred in our nation - exactly what the Trumpster fascists want.

Red hats will be lining up for heros and blue hats will be lined up with protest signs.

KY.........

[JI7]

21. i wonder how long he will stay in business

my guess is he will paint himself as a victim and talk about threats he is getting and set up a gofundme that right wingers across the country can contribute to.

he complains about omar saying "something" but i don't see anything from him on the 9/11 funds that Rand Paul is blocking .

[Vinca]

22. 3 kids and he intentionally trashes his business. Smart guy.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

23. Guess being a dumbass ain't so good for business.

[dustyscamp]

24. Fuck this Magat asshole

[vercetti2021]

25. Can't fix stupid

So not only do you fucking say this in a very liberal part of California. But you're giving away money. How the fuck did he even get this far in the food business is beyond me.

[watoos]

27. He didn't really say what the free side was,

maybe it was a free side of hatred and or bigotry?

[vercetti2021]

28. He claimed 65 gone so far

Like oh ok sure...like desperate for business much? Not only is your place bleeding money. You shot yourself in the goddamn foot too. Stupid is as stupid does

[kacekwl]

29. No, he's got some left over

Freedom Fries.

[samnsara]

26. how can anyone NOT know what they were doing was wrong.. and with consequences?

..and 3 kids? HE alone put them in the perceived endangerment....maybe the state child welfare agency should check out that home.

[maryellen99]

30. If he hates being around liberals so much

Why doesn’t he leave California?

[bdamomma]

34. He made his choice

and is paying for his mistakes now too bad.

[dalton99a]

35. And it was not a single isolated incident.

There was a pattern of running his mouth on Facebook

[Demovictory9]

59. yes and the "overly sensitive pork haters" is an asshole comment also

food business man being judgemental about what customers won't eat???

[Baltimike]

37. Beware how these motherfuckers play victim

bartcop busted quite a few back in the day...one guy was in his local newspaper showing a kid ripping a Bush sign out of his hand, and the same local paper had their father/son baseball pic, although I don't think it was the same issue.

[mainer]

38. Trumpers assume everyone thinks like them. They're shocked by reality

I'm sure he thought business would boom because of his comments. Now he's facing up to the fact most people actually despise his hero.

[DrToast]

42. Aka The Fox News bubble.

[Aristus]

44. Don't threaten the guy, people. Just don't eat there.

We're better than that.

[Wounded Bear]

48. I was thinking maybe go in, order a meal, then send it back to the kitchen...

3 or 4 times.

[Pantagruel]

51. Canesa should grow a pair

and rename his shop the 'White Supremacist Deli'-see how that works out?

[muntrv]

52. Bad business practice when going political.

[LW1977]

53. Don't know how to post videos..

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He should use the same PR Firm as Papa Johns.

[lapislzi]

54. It's almost as if he didn't even try not being an asshole

prior to burning his business to the ground. No sympathy.

[Brainfodder]

55. Things That Could Go Badly for 1000 Alex?

Open hostility, sad & you reap what you sow, fools.

[exboyfil]

56. Usually these sub shops

Have a production line making them. What if a bunch of customers begin the process until it gets to the condiments. Specify one condiment and, after it is applied, then a second one they don't have. Then say no thank you to the sandwich and leave.

[Orangepeel]

60. "The reporter who broke the story..."

Asshole posts asshole comment on his Facebook page is a story that needed breaking?