A LTTE From A Republican

[JimGinPA]

[gibraltar72]

1. They are mildly concerned.

[Arkansas Granny]

2. Hopefully there are more who feel the same way.

[Thomas Hurt]

3. and yet he does not explicitly say he will not vote for Trump again.

Its alright if the GOP speaks up we can fix Trump. pppppppppppffffffffffft.

[maxsolomon]

4. Then vote Democrat, Jay.

He doesn't even know what the "4 Congresswomen" said.

[CurtEastPoint]

5. If he is 'conservative on fiscal issues' he should fucking not support Dump. Or any Repube.

[LiberalLovinLug]

16. The myth that keeps on giving

That only Republicans are good with fiscal management. That you can't trust a spend and tax leftie Democrat. Even though decades of history has shown the opposite, that when Democrats are in power, we have improving economies. and Republicans spend like sailors...mostly on themselves via huge tax cuts.

I know where it comes from. And it almost makes sense. Republicans have traditionally been the more "business friendly" party. At least before Bill Clinton and the DLC's "third way" strategy. But that did little to shake that myth. And to run a business successfully, one has to be fiscally prudent. So it should make logical sense to have someone that sides with business, to keep a watch on the countries spending.

Only one problem, the government is not a profit run enterprise. Sometimes we have to spend on things that have no fiscal payback, like the armed forces, or roads and bridges, or public schools. And also, the open ended chequebook of government coffers is way too tempting for Republican lawmakers to resist...because it is NOT a business.

Yet so many Republican voters are dead set in thinking this. Its always a question of "how will you pay for that?" when it comes to programs that will actually help the average American, but it never gets asked about wealthy Rethugs that pass trillion dollar tax cuts to themselves.

[Pacifist Patriot]

19. I will never understand that cliche.

If you're fiscally conservative and socially liberal, you're a damn Democrat. If you think the Republicans are the party of fiscal responsibility, then you're just another idiot who can't process history or data.

[barbtries]

21. yeah, that's most of them.

do you ever watch morning joe? Scarborough is constitutionally incapable of admitting that his party is a terrible steward of the economy, and has been since Reagan at least.

[Pacifist Patriot]

22. Nope, don't watch.

I know I'm odd. I cannot stand to have any sound on or anyone talk to me in the morning until I have gone for a walk, gotten ready for work, and had a bite to eat. It's not that I'm slow to wake, I'm alert fairly quickly. I just need my internal world to myself to prepare for the sensory onslaught of the day. I have never understood the appeal of morning shows for that reason.

[barbtries]

23. I waver.

right now I can't watch any news, i get too frustrated. for years i never watched morning joe. then i got into it for awhile.

thankful for DU and twitter, the Washington Post.

[IronLionZion]

33. Probably likes tax cuts, but doesn't seem concerned with debt or defense spending

although many Repubs would like to cut spending for social programs

[charlyvi]

6. Link, please.

[JimGinPA]

8. Here You Go Newb

https://www.facebook.com/briantylercohen/photos/a.174174706451931/542119326324132/?type=3&theater

From the 'Anti-Trump Army' FB feed.

Thanks for your concern.

[charlyvi]

9. I've been here since 2004.

Long enough to know posting an LTTE should include a link to the source it came from. If that insulted you, too bad.

[Pepsidog]

12. What's an LTTE? Never mind I just figured it out. Letter to the editor.

[JimGinPA]

15. I Know How Long You've Been Here

I've been here four months longer, long enough to know how to look at a profile when someone gets my attention.

[charlyvi]

25. Then you've been here long enough to know how to post a link

And not react to a request for one by calling me a newb and thanking me for my concern. The sarcasm and rudeness was evident in your reply to me.

[JimGinPA]

26. As Was The Rudeness In Your Post

Your implication that I would post a fabricated LTTE for some reason is absurd.

And I called you newb after having seen your sign on date, as a joke. My bad for assuming you might have a sense of humor.

[charlyvi]

27. It is not rudeness to ask for a link to printed matter.

Going to the source allows one to read comments to the posted material or to see if the material came from a right or left publication etc. To assume requesting a link means I think you fabricated it is absurd. I made no such implication. Only a true snowflake would think it. The TOS of this website states that a link must be posted for printed material.

I simply don't believe you looked at my sign on date before you called me a newb. I think you looked up my sign on date after I told you I'd been here since 2004, to see if was telling the truth. When you saw that I was in fact here since 2004 you could have simply apologized. But you have to try and turn it back to me by another insult -- I have no sense of humor. Although I really don't see what's funny about calling someone a newb when they've been here 15 years, but you do you. You just decided to dig in: you seem to be a person that has a difficult time admitting you are wrong.

Then there's the old "Thank you for your concern" trope, as though I were some sort of troll. It's the classic way of telling someone you think they're a troll. That's another reason I don't believe you looked at my sign on date until after I posted. Who trolls a place for 15 years? It doesn't pass the smell test.

All because I asked for a link so I could read the comments, if any. Well, goodbye JimGinPA. I won't be interacting with you again, trust me. Have a great life.

[JimGinPA]

29. Sorry...

"Link, please" is the epitome of rudeness.

Oh, and since I spend a lot of time on MIRT I'm fairly familiar with the TOS. I understand your confusion between "printed" & copyrighted material, which is the section of the TOS you're attempting to cite. And I did provide both a link to where it had been posted & the FB feed I where came across it, as you brusquely requested. But that wasn't good enough. You felt the need to push it. Not only did you imply & then outright call me a liar, you then called me a "snowflake", which is unquestionably a RW slur.

But the piece de resistance has to be that someone I haven't run across here in 15 years informing me they will no longer interact with me.

You seem nice.

[Celerity]

31. +10000

[sdfernando]

7. Jay

You my die under this guy and ashamed. I'm assuming you voted for this orange menace (you didn't say otherwise in your LTE) so there is the bed you made...gonna be a long, uncomfortable, shameful, rest.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

10. I have NEVER understood the "conservative on fiscal issues,

liberal on social issues" is supposed to mean. It has always seemed a way of justifying voting for Republicans when that vote really isn't justifiable.

And as someone else has already pointed out, someone who really is conservative on fiscal issues would not have voted for any Republican in the last 30 years or so. Probably closer to 40, given what Ronald Reagan did.

[thesquanderer]

30. example: "I think abortion should be legal, but don't use my tax dollars to pay for it."

AKA libertarian.

[DFW]

35. Spot on--the opposite of fiscally conservative is not liberal, but rash. A risk-taker

At least on fiscal issues. "Conservative" just means you are made nervous by debts, and the opposite means you are willing to incur them. Someone that is willing to risk incurring a debt to start a business is more likely to become an employer, and someone who is less willing to incur a debt is more likely to become an employee. That would be me, for example. I am terrified of debt, despite that I have probably the best job security of anybody. It's just my nature not to want that hanging over my head. Some aren't fazed by that. I am.

Trump, who may well turn out to be bankrupt if anyone ever gets to see his books, has called himself "the King of Debt." I can't imagine ANY businessman willing to boast about that unless he is confident he will never be forced to pay all of it back. If Deutsche Bank (to use one well-known example) is holding $2 billion of Trump debt, and they know he does not have the means to repay it, or the business skill to earn enough to pay it back, they have two choices. Either continue the fiction that what Trump owes them is a debt they foresee being paid back some day, and continue to list it among their assets, or admit it is a bad loan, write it off, and remove it from their stated assets. No bank manager wants to be responsible for losing $2 billion in assets (or have to admit it to stockholders who may have him arrested for fraud), so they get away with the fiction as long as they can possibly manage. Republicans have been getting away with that on a global scale ever since Reagan, and their voters fall for the scam more often than Charlie Brown has thought Lucy wouldn't snatch away the football.

[Toorich]

11. ...By God...

... nothing, and I mean nothing, beats a sternly worded letter.

[GeorgeGist]

13. liberal on social issues?

nope he isn't.

[nevergiveup]

14. Hi Jay

May I introduce you to Senator Susan Collins. I assume she is one of the "hybrids" you are talking about. She will share your concern, hold your hand and console you. Everything is going to be just fine.

[patphil]

17. Several of the replies to JimGinPA's original post are really snotty.

I don't think that was necessary...simply unwarranted.

Patrick Phillips

[snort]

18. This is why I just love these Republican fuckheads, bet he voted for the orange shit monster.

"I strongly disagree". About what exactly? It comes down to giving a damn about other people. Healthcare, education, food, housing, they don't give a fuck if it's not happening to them. Fuck the fuck off, Jay.

[barbtries]

20. Jay should probably consider

whether he ought not to stop being a republican. it's trump's party now.

[Perseus]

24. I would love to know on what she "strongly disagrees" with AOC and the rest.

I have a feeling that is a "just saying".

Also, the fact that she calls herself a fiscal conservative, but should we assume she agreed with the so called "Tax cuts"?

[Ferrets are Cool]

28. Fuck you and your hindsight.

I hate you more than the idiots who still love him. You make me want to puke. In 2020 (if you are still alive) you will still vote a straight republican ticket. SO FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOU AGAIN.

[Skittles]

32. I DESPISE people who say they are "fiscal consveratives"

as if repukes have ANYTHING to with fiscal responsibility

[Progressive Jones]

34. Damn! I'm seeing more being

written into this man's LTTE in this thread than he actually wrote.