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Blackjewel files for chapter 11 in a move critics say is increasingly used to avoid paying workers what they are owed
On 1 July, Missy Cole was notified by her bank that her husbands most recent paycheck had bounced, leaving their account more than $1,000 in the red. Her husband had worked as a coalminer for nearly three years at one of the eastern Kentucky mines operated by Revelation Energy affiliate Blackjewel mining.
But both companies had filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy, a financial move that has implications far beyond just laying off staff as the ex-workers now wait for bankruptcy proceedings to play out. Critics say the move is a ploy increasingly used in the struggling industry to avoid paying workers what they are owed.
A layoff is always expected with miners. Its always in the back of your mind and its no surprise when it happens in the coal industry. But this is much more than a layoff, Cole told the Guardian.
We have absolutely no access to our bank accounts. Those accounts are still negative, and falling deeper into the negative daily. We cannot even touch his 401(k) to withdraw money to survive on without the signature of the Blackjewel mining CEO or his personnel.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/22/blackjewel-mines-shut-down-layoffs-future
Since a lot of these miners voted for the trumpster.........................they now have a new worry too putting food on the table, guess what...............................they will have a whole new "means test".....................congratulations, now what do you think of your "guy"..........................and the cronies at the mine.....................pocketing your 401K savings........................because of the two books being used hiding the robbery, if you have money in savings, even if you can't get access to the savings or the bounced checks, you can't collect unemployment insurance, why might you ask, its an asset.........................
So, come next November 3, 2020 just think about all of those great jobs he said he was going to save for you, and the CEO of the mine ripping you off..........................and giving that money to trump for his re-election..........don't you just love being sold a bill of goods on making maga again, don't you................................
So the next time your in line for SNAP just thank your trumpster and how you support a narcissistic treasonous racist asshole that doesn't give one iota about you, but himself and his cronies...........................so put on that hard hat and or that red hat and that red white and blue shirt .......and then have your signs at his rallies and just smile, so that he can tell himself, while your cheering and wondering about your next plate of food chanting "send them back" (that maybe he and his trolls are talking about you) .............and while you stand in line for SNAP...........................knowing that he has now made another "means test" of outright bullshit of just lacking any empathy or vision except of his, I got mine, attitude, because after all who needs food, and you paid for that program ( Snap) to protect you in the event you are now in...............................
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142344802
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)Stupid is as stupid does.
~~ Forrest Gump's Mom
TexasTowelie
(112,141 posts)for those interested in reading more details about the Blackjewel bankruptcy.
Blackjewel's business practices have left small businesses eating the debt and they had to be harassed to pay their bills.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)tRump's method of doing business. Screw over the little guy, make sure the leaders get theirs. Too bad they voted for the orange mistake.
DFW
(54,369 posts)The only difference is that now they have to pay their own way, and this time they get no closer than being rebuffed at the gates by security guards who are trained and paid to deny them entrance and have them arrested if they dont leave immediately. Maybe they can get some good film of their new reception to show the folks back home how Trump really felt about them all along.
watoos
(7,142 posts)Trump digs coal you know.
DFW
(54,369 posts)If its within a 1000 mile radius, then maybe.
hatrack
(59,584 posts)Too bad they won't be able to afford a ticket.
http://www.theintelligencer.net/news/top-headlines/2019/07/president-trump-returning-to-wheeling-for-2020-campaign-fundraiser/
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)Who can resist the urge to yell "send her back" when your paycheck bounces, cause this is all her fault, right?
What a damn shitshow we have going on here in America.
Raven123
(4,829 posts)Traildogbob
(8,726 posts)The administration, of which is Mitch, is pursuing cutting 3.1 million off of food stamps as per an early DU story this AM. Is this starving the beast after they've been fucked so they die and can't sue for lost wages and 401k theft. MAGA. Trump Digs coal..........tycoons.
Raven123
(4,829 posts)Takket
(21,563 posts)Hopefully they can get new jobs processing whale blubber for oil lamps or maybe as a milliner stiffing hats with mercury.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)What a business tycoon he is. Not.
They voted for a corrupt liar, rapist, fool.
barbtries
(28,789 posts)savings do not exclude you from collecting unemployment.
helpisontheway
(5,007 posts)When he was hired (in 2011 after military retirement) coal was booming. They had so many coal trains. Then it was dramatically decreased. So many of the railroaders that made so much money with coal trains listened to Trump in 2016. Union told them to vote for Hillary. Oh no..Trumpis bringing back coal so they voted for him. All they talked about is how bad Hillary and Obama were. Now they have Trump. Coal trains did not increase. Then he reduced what they could claim on income taxes with his tax reform. This caused a huge decrease in returns. Then they were sitting there looking stupid when they found out how the tax reform affected them.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)have effectively brainwashed millions.
rawhideal
(51 posts)You got that right!!! Fox news has made my mother dumb as rock!!!!!
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Pure lowest common denominator, tribal trash talk that pats you on the back for tearing others down rather than building yourself up. They have nothing but hatred and anger now where there should have been a carefully nurtured soul.
I noticed years ago when Rush and Hannity slaves started scoffing at anything good, kind, compassionate and ethical. You might get away with that when humans are involved, but Mother Earth doesnt put up with that shit for very long. Time to crawl out of the coal mines and into the 21st century.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)I know a trump voter who is getting defensive about anything having to do with trump and a few things that don't, but she tries to make them political.
tblue37
(65,336 posts)Ilsa
(61,694 posts)I personally don't know of anyone doing better under this Admin.
tblue37
(65,336 posts)actual reality.
marble falls
(57,079 posts)We may not get some of the miners, but we can get to their wives.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Laid out before them and voted for Hillary. To the majority of them that voted Trump? Ive no fucks to give. This is EXACTLY what they voted for.
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)But getting a job in that industry isnt a way to protect your bank account. I dont care who these people voted for. We need strong numbers and power so we can help them out. There are better ways.
usaf-vet
(6,181 posts)Sorry for your loss. But hoping you finally learned a lesson the GOP doesn't give a moments thought to you and your family. They count on ill-informed voters to get them in the office so they can continue to enrich themselves and their millionaire/billionaire supporters.
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)Oh wait, Hillary did!! DOH!!
malaise
(268,957 posts)Bangs head
durablend
(7,460 posts)"Libs gunna take muh coal away over muh ded body!"
malaise
(268,957 posts)Let the gullible be the gullible
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,417 posts)durablend
(7,460 posts)oasis
(49,379 posts)durablend
(7,460 posts)And learn how to repeat "Welcome to Walmart!"
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)But I could see them saying fuck it and stay home in 2020.
AJT
(5,240 posts)to the voting booth and pull the GOP lever.....
They hate Democrats more than they love themselves or their families.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,784 posts)Tie the turtle to Trump.
The Democrats have a message to those Trump voters...You sold your soul to the devils. They screwed you into thinking they were looking out for you. They weren't!
VMA131Marine
(4,138 posts)401k plans are supposed to have independent administrators. There should be no way that a bankrupt company can take what someone holds in a 401k account. Company sponsored pension plans are potentially vulnerable, for sure, but even these have Federal safeguards through the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. (PBGC).
turbinetree
(24,695 posts)through the airline industry, 25 years as a mechanic ---flight line------since the defined pensions plans are being "phased" out with these so called 401K's hoping that the wall street crowd will be nice to the investor, they are not and they never will be.
I and many others were or still with an airlines, I happened to be a former employee of an airline that was employee owned, when 9/11 happened, ( we gave up a lot to get rid of Steve Wolf) we the employees, went to wall street to help the carrier (United) make it thru the time frame, they said no, they did not want employee owned firms such as ours on the books, there was massive layoffs....................so the carrier filed for bankruptcy, along with many others after the fact, some sooner, some later, in the background of this is one 1974 law called the Erisa Law and Erisa says it all and it has been used to determine if you get or do not get benefits.....................:
https://www.upcounsel.com/erisa-law
https://www.gao.gov/highrisk/pension_benefit/why_did_study
https://www.pbgc.gov/news/press/releases/pr18-02