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Tennessee Hillbilly

(587 posts)
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 01:45 PM Jul 2019

How could anyone be dumb enough to vote for Trump?

-- He's by far the weakest, most cowardly "president" in U.S. history.

-- He committed treason by secretly accepting help from Putin in the 2016 election.

-- He's a draft dodger who repeatedly threatens to take military action against other countries.

-- Everyday he tells blatant lies to the American people, while accusing the press of fake news.

Well this list could obviously be much longer, but this is enough to justify my question:

How could anyone be dumb enough to vote for Trump?

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How could anyone be dumb enough to vote for Trump? (Original Post) Tennessee Hillbilly Jul 2019 OP
If you find out Harker Jul 2019 #1
Racism. yardwork Jul 2019 #2
Bingo! WestIndianArchie Jul 2019 #25
There are smart, intelligent people that support him, precisely, because he does these things. LuvLoogie Jul 2019 #3
Please name one smart intelligent person we all know who supports Trump womanofthehills Jul 2019 #26
Forty years of hate AM radio and FOX News. Grasswire2 Jul 2019 #4
My brother and his son were stolen by them too. Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #8
You're probably correct, elleng Jul 2019 #11
Plus the Southern Baptist Church FiveGoodMen Jul 2019 #12
I preach that to everyone. Hate radioIowa's steve king's election again and again and again. IADEMO2004 Jul 2019 #34
He hates the people they hate. TDale313 Jul 2019 #5
Exactly what I was going to say. Different Drummer Jul 2019 #7
Yep customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #41
The Russians got him the votes that made the difference. lpbk2713 Jul 2019 #6
They pay no attention and so they don't even know about his lies and stupid comments treestar Jul 2019 #9
They thought we needed a political outsider to come in and straighten things out. Different Drummer Jul 2019 #10
I think you're right. lpbk2713 Jul 2019 #14
Agree 100% treestar Ohiogal Jul 2019 #19
Right-wing authoritarian voters. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2019 #13
I Asked The Same Question Until I Talked To A Trumper The Other Day..... global1 Jul 2019 #15
Hate... Snackshack Jul 2019 #16
Well... Keth Jul 2019 #17
Welcome to DU Keth Ohiogal Jul 2019 #20
Welcome, Keth customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #43
Supreme Court! question everything Jul 2019 #18
Yep, that was a big part of it too. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2019 #21
I'm especially puzzled when I see the idiots with the "Veterans For Trumps" signs. Vinca Jul 2019 #22
Before I go wash socks, I feel a need to post about rzemanfl Jul 2019 #23
So much for that stereotype Tennessee Hillbilly Jul 2019 #24
He appeals to stupid people ... GeorgeGist Jul 2019 #27
From the Buddhist perspective vlyons Jul 2019 #28
How could anyone be dumb enough to be TRUMP? Zambero Jul 2019 #29
spite makes one stupid. nt Baltimike Jul 2019 #30
Phd and white fear HipChick Jul 2019 #31
His fans don't care... Mike Nelson Jul 2019 #32
white supremacy. the need to believe he is far better than Obama in every way JI7 Jul 2019 #33
30 years of right wing media Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #35
That too. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2019 #44
Anger renate Jul 2019 #36
Many are voting a sick level of partisanship against us and liberalism, Hortensis Jul 2019 #37
Bigots 'n Pigs moondust Jul 2019 #38
Look how much "reality TV" shows we have JesterCS Jul 2019 #39
Because he hurts the people they hate. MicaelS Jul 2019 #40
easy: racism, misogyny, and easily susceptable to really bad propaganda Skittles Jul 2019 #42

LuvLoogie

(6,995 posts)
3. There are smart, intelligent people that support him, precisely, because he does these things.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 01:56 PM
Jul 2019

He's not there because people are stupid. Stupid people vote for Democrats, too.

The motivations of those that still support trump have nothing to do with intelligence or lack there of.

womanofthehills

(8,700 posts)
26. Please name one smart intelligent person we all know who supports Trump
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 03:45 PM
Jul 2019

They might have a PhD, but they still are racist and really stupid about stuff not related to their work. My PhD sort of friend can't understand why I care about the kids on the border. Jezzz...... If it's not about them, they don't care that much.

Grasswire2

(13,568 posts)
4. Forty years of hate AM radio and FOX News.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 01:57 PM
Jul 2019

That's the manure that has fertilized the "grievances" of that particular class.

My cousin is one. A retired cop and a really good family man. Successful financially, loved by his family. Kind, actually, to people in his life and orbit. But brainwashed by hate radio. Simply brainwashed.

IADEMO2004

(5,554 posts)
34. I preach that to everyone. Hate radioIowa's steve king's election again and again and again.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 04:23 PM
Jul 2019

and don't get me started on warrior princess joni ernst.

No capitalization for improper politicians.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
5. He hates the people they hate.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 01:57 PM
Jul 2019

Frankly, many of his supporters don’t care how bad a job he does as long as they think he’s making life more miserable for those “others” (minorities, lgtb+, immigrants, liberals, women).

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
41. Yep
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 08:30 PM
Jul 2019

They know all of his shortcomings, and still love the fact that he pisses off the people they hate. He's their "pit bull".

treestar

(82,383 posts)
9. They pay no attention and so they don't even know about his lies and stupid comments
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 02:04 PM
Jul 2019

They are single issue abortion madpeoepole

They are xenophobic and scapegoat illegal immigrants

They pay no attention and so they think he is a billionaire businessman and fall for the businessman would make a good president crap


Different Drummer

(7,614 posts)
10. They thought we needed a political outsider to come in and straighten things out.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 02:06 PM
Jul 2019

If what we're seeing now is "straightened out", I hope to never see disarray!

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
14. I think you're right.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 02:13 PM
Jul 2019


I remember a lot of talk about voting in a "businessman" instead
of a career politician to streamline our government. Since he has
been in office everything he has touched has turned to shit.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
13. Right-wing authoritarian voters.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 02:09 PM
Jul 2019

They overwhelmingly voted for Trump.

It's clear from 2016 exit polls that many of them didn't consider Trump fit for office, but they voted for him anyway.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls


Is Clinton qualified to serve as president?
Yes - 52%
No - 47%

Is Trump qualified to serve as president?
Yes - 38%
No - 61%


Right-wing authoritarianism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism

Right-wing authoritarians want society and social interactions structured in ways that increase uniformity and minimize diversity. In order to achieve that, they tend to be in favour of social control, coercion and the use of group authority to place constraints on the behaviours of people such as political dissidents and ethnic minorities. These constraints might include restrictions on immigration, limits on free speech and association and laws regulating moral behaviour. It is the willingness to support or take action that leads to increased social uniformity that makes right-wing authoritarianism more than just a personal distaste for difference. Right-wing authoritarianism is characterized by obedience to authority, moral absolutism, racial and ethnic prejudice and intolerance and punitiveness towards dissidents and deviants. In parenting, right-wing authoritarians value children's obedience, neatness and good manners.


I'm VERY white (a couple shades above albino most of the time) and very clean-cut, so I've been privy to "private" conversations about race from people who are clearly RWA's. Most of them are more upset about people not obeying their cultural norms rather than the color of someone's skin, although a few of them have been full-blown racists. It's just that people with different skin colors from them tend to behave differently too. Even someone who "wears pants below their underwear" can get them worked up. It's a very odd way of thinking to me.

Edit: Fictional characters from "No Country for Old Men", but these kinds of people are more likely to vote for Trump:

global1

(25,242 posts)
15. I Asked The Same Question Until I Talked To A Trumper The Other Day.....
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 02:17 PM
Jul 2019

His head was filled with conspiracy theories; hatred for Obama (he's a birther) and a very closed mind to any reasoning when discussing the criminal actions of Trump.

He's 33 y/o. Single. And immature.

I've lost faith in our youth. I'm 70y/o and was appalled by our conversation.

There was no talking to this guy. He wouldn't hear of any challenge to his hero Trump.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
16. Hate...
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 02:19 PM
Jul 2019

It is one of several primal emotions that is very powerful and can easily sway a human to do things that are generally not in their best interests.

Keth

(184 posts)
17. Well...
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 02:24 PM
Jul 2019

I was sitting at a local brew pub yesterday afternoon enjoying a house brewed IPA and pizza, when the guy next to me, out of the blue, stated he was tired of career politicians like Biden and Pelosi because they get nothing done. Of course, no mention of Moscow Mitch (I like whoever penned that). That's why he likes Trump. Trump is not a career politician, is giving us a good economy, and getting things done like the wall (??). I knew that getting into a political discussion with MAGA man would have no impact. So, I just said to him "I hate Trump. He lies all the time!" and left it at that. Then I went to the bathroom. When I got back, he was turned the other way on his barstool.

question everything

(47,470 posts)
18. Supreme Court!
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 02:26 PM
Jul 2019

Was always about the Supreme Court. I have been saying this since 2004.

And this is why, the Sanders supporters from 2016, who were miffed when Hillary won the nomination, and stayed home or voted for Trump or Stein, I hope they burn in hell (not that I believe in heavens or hell..)

And not just the supreme court. Really, while we were busy at "MeToo and Russia and Stormy, Trump nominated many to lower courts which, as we know, are often the first step to challenge abortion restrictions, voters suppression and other issues. All were confirmed.

Yeah, we can thank McGahn for that.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
21. Yep, that was a big part of it too.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 02:47 PM
Jul 2019
https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

In your vote, were Supreme Court appointments:
The most important factor, 21% of all voters: Trump 56%, Clinton 41%
An important factor, 48% of all voters: Clinton 49%, Trump 46%
A minor factor, 14% of all voters: Clinton 49%, Trump 40%
Not a factor at all, 14% of all voters: Clinton 55%, Trump 37%


The votes from white evangelicals wasn't surprising either.
White born-again or evangelical Christian?
Yes, 26% of all voters: Trump 80%, Clinton 16%
No, 74% of all voters: Clinton 60%, Trump 34%

Vinca

(50,267 posts)
22. I'm especially puzzled when I see the idiots with the "Veterans For Trumps" signs.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 02:52 PM
Jul 2019

I hope they're actors paid to be there and not real veterans. Why would a vet support a guy who weaseled out of service because of bone spurs and then decreased the VA waiting list by nullifying 200,000 applications? A guy who snarkily said "his Vietnam" was fighting sexually transmitted diseases.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
23. Before I go wash socks, I feel a need to post about
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 02:59 PM
Jul 2019

the irony of your username and this post. So much for that stereotype.


24. So much for that stereotype
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 03:32 PM
Jul 2019

"the irony of your username and this post. So much for that stereotype."

There are plenty of progressives in Tennessee. I grew up in a "hillbilly" area, but we weren't nearly as ignorant as outsiders might think.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
28. From the Buddhist perspective
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 03:51 PM
Jul 2019

People's minds are filled with dark delusions that keep them from becoming enlightened. It's what they tell themselves to stay attached to the delusion that their concept of ego-self is a self-existent solid thing. It seems that they fall into one of two camps. Those who greedily lust for money and the power to make money flow their way by any means. Those are the ones, who believe that money will buy them happiness. The other group seems consumed with anger envy and hatred that they aren't in the first group. And it's all somebody else's fault.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
29. How could anyone be dumb enough to be TRUMP?
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 04:03 PM
Jul 2019

Dear Leader is the big chicken. Equally dumb MAGA red hatters are the rotten eggs.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
31. Phd and white fear
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 04:06 PM
Jul 2019

That's my neighbor...24/7 FauX Watcher too....she believes the mexicans are coming to get her...(she's retired, so no job threat)
stays reading all the crime reports every day in the area...

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
44. That too.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 08:34 PM
Jul 2019

On a related note, media in Germany expressed Jew-hatred for many years before Hitler rose to power. It's not like Hitler and the Nazis created it themselves.

renate

(13,776 posts)
36. Anger
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 04:35 PM
Jul 2019

Racism of course, but the all-in angry kind of racism, not the embarrassed and almost-suppressed kind of racism that I had thought racism in America had become. I would never have imagined that even the most racist people in the country would literally go torches and pitchforks like they did in Charlottesville.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Many are voting a sick level of partisanship against us and liberalism,
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 04:39 PM
Jul 2019

which they've been trained to oppose as causing most of what's wrong with our nation.

Frankly, after all we've seen, how can any sensible, responsible person not realize what mindless hostility to the "other" does to those who've followed it into the nearest dark side?

moondust

(19,972 posts)
38. Bigots 'n Pigs
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 04:56 PM
Jul 2019

White supremacist patriarchy and tax cuts/deregulation/lax white collar crime enforcement.

Oh...and some suckers with feeble critical thinking skills who fell for loads of bullshit.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
40. Because he hurts the people they hate.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 07:45 PM
Jul 2019

But not enough for some.

One deplorable stated..

"He's not hurting the right people enough."

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