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Chuck Todd - hear me out, please - had several graphs showing the difference in voters turnout between rural and cities, between 2012 and 2016 in PA, MI, WI
Cannot get the posters, but is is the transcript:
Data Download time. 20 Democratic presidential hopefuls will meet this week for their second set of debates in Detroit. Next summer, the party will hold its nominating convention in Milwaukee. And Democratic frontrunner, Joe Biden, officially kicked off his campaign in Philadelphia.
Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, sound familiar? President Trump captured those three states along with his 306 electoral votes in 2016. And he was carried over the finish line by those three states: Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, three states that Democrats had won in every election going back to 1992. But the margins for Trump were about as razor thin as they could be, only 78,000 votes, combined, in all three states. In Pennsylvania, he won by about 44,000 votes. Wisconsin, the margin was nearly 23,000 votes, and in Michigan, less than 11,000 votes.
And there might be a reason why Trump won. Turnout in the big, urban counties, which often produce big margins for Democrats, did not keep up with counties in the rest of those three states. Wayne County, Michigan, the home of Detroit, produced 4% fewer votes in 2016 than it did in 2012, while the rest of the state produced 3% more votes.
Milwaukee produced 12% fewer votes in 2016 than it did in 2012, while the rest of Wisconsin saw a much smaller decline in turnout, just two points.
And in Philadelphia, they actually produced 3% more votes in 2016 than they did in 2012. But the rest of the state produced 8% more votes.
So the Democrats' goal is obvious: pump up turnout in the big cities. Can they do it? Republicans know the landscape, too. Won't they try to do the same in rural areas? Well, who's got more votes to turn out? And could Republicans also use social media to encourage urban voters to stay home? Perhaps, that's what the president's up to now, just as the Russians helped do in 2016. No matter what, get used to rallies not only in large cities, but also in ones with datelines like Oshkosh, Reading, and Kalamazoo.
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-july-28-2019-n1035481 and scroll down
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)It doesn't guarantee an EC victory, of course, but we do outnumber the Trumplodytes.
Problem is, the margin of victory we need continues to rise as Repubs continue to rig the system.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)targeted areas like Milwaukee. Those places didn't necessarily produce less votes because people didn't show up, it's just that republicons suppressed their vote.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)lost them. I sincerely hope he gets DRUMMED out of office. I won't think of the alternative until that is the reality.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)we saw some Complacency in the Early Voting States up to the time of the Comey Letter. After Comey hit,the phone feedback changed to a passive I don't know type comments. The Fence Sitters bailed to someone else or stayed home. Our Group did a Debrief on the Friday following that Election,as a whole what I mentioned seemed to be the comments from each person in our group.
One statement made to me when contacting likely voters was,well,she has a large vote lead I don't know. So damn depressing when you here that statement.
question everything
(47,470 posts)We will never know how many stayed home, especially in blue states like.... PA, MI, WI figuring Hillary would win anyway.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Golf Community,we have already pulled together our own team of Phone Bankers that will be operating out of our Houses as well as Phone Banking Office space provided by the Nevada Dem's. We might be few in number,but,we will make that up in the Noise we create.