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WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:00 PM Aug 2012

Father Benedict Groeschel: You Have It Backwards, Those Kids Are Seducing US

Father Benedict Groeschel: You Have It Backwards, Those Kids Are Seducing US

"People have this picture in their minds of a person planning to [commit child molestation] — a psychopath. But that’s not the case. Suppose you have a man having a nervous breakdown, and a youngster comes after him. A lot of the cases, the youngster — 14, 16, 18 — is the seducer.

"Well, it’s not so hard to see — a kid looking for a father and didn’t have his own — and they won’t be planning to get into heavy-duty sex, but almost romantic, embracing, kissing, perhaps sleeping but not having intercourse or anything like that.

"If you go back 10 or 15 years ago with different sexual difficulties — except for rape or violence — it was very rarely brought as a civil crime. Nobody thought of it that way....And I’m inclined to think, on their first offense, they should not go to jail because their intention was not committing a crime." - Father Benedict Groeschel, of the Archdiocese of New York, speaking to the National Catholic Register.

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2012/08/father-benedict-groeschel-you-have-it.html

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Father Benedict Groeschel: You Have It Backwards, Those Kids Are Seducing US (Original Post) WillParkinson Aug 2012 OP
rot in your own hell 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #1
Looney tunes. GeorgeGist Aug 2012 #2
The Predator always BLames the victim E_A_ Aug 2012 #3
GRRRRRRRRRRRRR Marrah_G Aug 2012 #4
Wow! And he says it in public, too... MineralMan Aug 2012 #5
<facepalm> HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #6
UnHoly Shit! ljm2002 Aug 2012 #7
Groeschel has Satan as his god Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #8
And then Jesus said "fuck it, I quit." Initech Aug 2012 #9
OMG. Unbelievable! nt. polly7 Aug 2012 #10
Need to allow clergy to have normal adult sexual relations, because the church is either ATTRACTING TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #11
wow.... barking mad justabob Aug 2012 #12
deranged. Put this parasite away.n/t librechik Aug 2012 #13
Jesus wept. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #14
Can the RCC sink any lower? hifiguy Aug 2012 #15
filth Whisp Aug 2012 #16
No. Fucking. Way. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #17
Groeschel Is One Sick Fuck Liberal_Dog Aug 2012 #18
It is an adult's moral and legal responsibility not to have sexual contact with children Nikia Aug 2012 #19
Geez, I was looking for The Onion link. FSogol Aug 2012 #20
Sick. Brickbat Aug 2012 #21
we can't let this just disappear cali Aug 2012 #22
And this gem, buried at the end of a Huffington Post story about Groeschel: AngryOldDem Aug 2012 #23

E_A_

(9 posts)
3. The Predator always BLames the victim
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:07 PM
Aug 2012

OMG, unbelievable but not unusual. I have read of a peodophille blaming a two year old, saying that she wanted it because she was only wearing a DIAPER!

This guy is sick sick sick..............

And he totally ignores the fact that most peodophilles plan what they are going to do, and probably go into the priesthood in order to gain acess to kids.....

What a sick guy........

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
5. Wow! And he says it in public, too...
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:09 PM
Aug 2012

No, Father Groeschel, you're wrong. You're an adult. You're not being seduced. You're a child molester. If you do that, you're a criminal.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
7. UnHoly Shit!
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:10 PM
Aug 2012

That is remarkably blatant. It should serve as a wakeup call for anyone who thinks the Catholic Church, as presently constituted, is not directly responsible for the sexual crimes committed by its clergy. They obviously tolerate and encourage this kind of thinking.

It can never be their fault. Because, you know, they have a Calling to do God's Work.

Blech.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
11. Need to allow clergy to have normal adult sexual relations, because the church is either ATTRACTING
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:36 PM
Aug 2012

sick pervs, or MAKING sick pervs by not allowing normal relationships, the way it is now.

justabob

(3,069 posts)
12. wow.... barking mad
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:39 PM
Aug 2012

What does a 14, 15, 16 year old know about seduction, first of all? 2... shouldn't an adult have the good sense (never mind strength of faith) to resist such temptations of the flesh? 3.... a man having a nervous breakdown should probably be released from parish duties and anything to do with kids generally.

I could go on, but that is enough to being getting on with.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
15. Can the RCC sink any lower?
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:48 PM
Aug 2012

Jeebus, the Mob has more honor and morality. I can't imagine the Mafia tolerating and covering for child molesters and they only whack their own.

Sick, sick, sick.

Nikia

(11,411 posts)
19. It is an adult's moral and legal responsibility not to have sexual contact with children
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 01:24 PM
Aug 2012

No matter how much they think the child is interested. If they have a problem with being tempted by children, they should get some help and avoid jobs that put them around children, especially as an authority figure. Instead these people seem to put themselves around children and teens as much as possible. Maybe seminaries, schools of education, youth organizations, and food service manager training needs to have a class or required seminar on this. While it might seem bad that this would need to be emphasized, there are too many adults working with children who use their position to rape them while claiming temptation.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
23. And this gem, buried at the end of a Huffington Post story about Groeschel:
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 01:48 PM
Aug 2012

<<Groeschel is also a professor of pastoral psychology at St. Joseph’s Seminary of the Archdiocese of New York.<<

Just. Totally. Fucked. Up.

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