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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 06:29 PM Jul 2019

It looks as if Russian opposition activist Alexei Navalny has been poisoned





Bill Browder

@Billbrowder
It’s looking more and more like Alexei Navalny, Putin’s most fierce critic has been poisoned with “undefined chemical substances”. Very bad news, if true.


Axios

@axios
JUST IN: Russian opposition activist Alexei Navalny's doctor says he is suffering from the effects of "undefined chemical substances" — not an allergic reaction, as has been reported. https://www.axios.com/alexei-navalny-vladimir-putin-allergic-reaction-bce8ccc8-753c-43d4-ac2b-4d677f4679c1.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic
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It looks as if Russian opposition activist Alexei Navalny has been poisoned (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Jul 2019 OP
That man is a true hero !! donkeypoofed Jul 2019 #1
They don't call him Putin the Poisoner for nothing dalton99a Jul 2019 #2
I call him "Vlad the Poisoner" after Vlad the Impailer OMGWTF Jul 2019 #23
Vlad der Vergifter Pachamama Jul 2019 #27
+1 dalton99a Jul 2019 #42
If determined to be from some nerve agent, I got 100 internets that says Trump refuses to condemn mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #3
The moron's response will be, "There are very fine people on both sides" or BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #16
Ever wonder why Trumb likes fast food? He thinks he avoids the possibility of poisoning DemocracyMouse Jul 2019 #19
I read that a couple of years ago BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #20
Putin won't do anything to Trump as long as Trump is Putin's giving tree. ooky Jul 2019 #32
Well now winetourdriver01 Jul 2019 #4
Sure Vlad will at some point if he can, send over people. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #6
I think the mgardener Jul 2019 #31
How many people has he murdered? 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #5
and right wing movements across the global celebrate Putin DBoon Jul 2019 #37
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #7
This could turn into a very big story rather soon. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2019 #8
I heard that shanti Jul 2019 #11
I am shocked that Trumps BFF would behave this way. world wide wally Jul 2019 #9
I'm sure Trump is . getting ready to distance himself from him HipChick Jul 2019 #10
Russian opposition journalist Vladimir Alexeyevich Kara-Murza, Sr is also dead today Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #12
Maybe fear of this is why? sellitman Jul 2019 #13
I think you might be right. smirkymonkey Jul 2019 #34
And sellitman Jul 2019 #43
I honestly feel the whole tRUMP family bluestarone Jul 2019 #14
He is salivating over this. liberal N proud Jul 2019 #28
tRump is furiously texting Barr and Bolton as to how he can do the same thing BamaRefugee Jul 2019 #15
Navalny is the man whose work revealed the "Deripaska tapes" EleanorR Jul 2019 #17
Please make this its own OP Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #24
please please DBoon Jul 2019 #38
What happened to the Russian escort who made the recordings on Deripaska's boat lapfog_1 Jul 2019 #39
Which is why NO repugs speak ill of putin. nt Ferrets are Cool Jul 2019 #18
Putin is a terrorist. Initech Jul 2019 #21
Did he shoot down airplanes of innocent civilians? rufus dog Jul 2019 #30
Trump pals around with terrorists. mgardener Jul 2019 #33
He is absolutely a terrorist. Initech Jul 2019 #35
Our countries are now joined in corruption, so shouldn't the Dems plan a press conference? DemocracyMouse Jul 2019 #22
Vlad being Vlad.... paleotn Jul 2019 #25
Does Trump still want to build a Trump Tower in Moscow ? katmondoo Jul 2019 #26
At what point do we re-visit our position on assassinating foreign leaders? Buckeyeblue Jul 2019 #29
Yushchenko REDUX harumph Jul 2019 #36
In addition Russian authorities arrested 1,300 protesters Duppers Jul 2019 #40
FUCK YOU, PUTIN! Just--FUCK YOU! lastlib Jul 2019 #41

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
1. That man is a true hero !!
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 06:33 PM
Jul 2019

Standing alone against a mob boss like Putie has got to be very hard and would take a tremendous amount of courage!!

God bless Alexei Navalny.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. If determined to be from some nerve agent, I got 100 internets that says Trump refuses to condemn
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 06:37 PM
Jul 2019

his Master Vlad ... "he says he had nothing to do with it!"

Hopefully it's just something like a bad acid trip, and he'll be okay in a few days

BigmanPigman

(51,565 posts)
16. The moron's response will be, "There are very fine people on both sides" or
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 07:19 PM
Jul 2019

"You think our country is so innocent?" I can't wait for Putin to get pissed off at the Racist Rapist.

BigmanPigman

(51,565 posts)
20. I read that a couple of years ago
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 07:49 PM
Jul 2019

and thought for a nanosecond, "Maybe he is smarter than I give him credit for" since there is that very real possibility. Of course he isn't smart though, just paranoid and rightly so. He and Epstein should be worried about the same outcome. Naturally, I would dance on his grave. Hell, I would have a non-stop 6 month long party!

 

winetourdriver01

(1,154 posts)
4. Well now
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 06:37 PM
Jul 2019

If Vlad the Awful is still poisoning his political opposition, how long, I wonder, before Shitler gets the hint?

58Sunliner

(4,372 posts)
6. Sure Vlad will at some point if he can, send over people.
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 06:41 PM
Jul 2019

I doubt he would leave it to Dipshit Turd. Would you?

mgardener

(1,812 posts)
31. I think the
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 09:30 PM
Jul 2019

Putin will use the threat of blackmail, I 'm sure he has so much on Trump. And nast.y stuff too.
To destroy Trumps 's businesses and belittle him "bigly" would be a fate worse then death.

It will be telling to see how Trump responds if the accusation is true.

58Sunliner

(4,372 posts)
5. How many people has he murdered?
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 06:38 PM
Jul 2019

Ugly psychopath, murdering anyone who opposes him in horrific ways. And Turd just licks his boots with relish.
Those are some very brave people.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
8. This could turn into a very big story rather soon.
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 07:02 PM
Jul 2019

Apparently police are already arresting people outside his hospital right now.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
12. Russian opposition journalist Vladimir Alexeyevich Kara-Murza, Sr is also dead today
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 07:11 PM
Jul 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212326834

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Kara-Murza_Sr.
Vladimir Alexeyevich Kara-Murza (Russian: Влади́мир Алексе́евич Кара́-Мурза́; 24 October 1959 – 28 July 2019) was a Russian journalist and TV host.

<snip>
Public position
In 2004 he became one of the founders of the opposition Committee 2008. In 2018, he was one of the trustees of Grigory Yavlinsky in the presidential election.

He was one of the critics of the policy of the current authorities and President Vladimir Putin, and in his publications regularly criticized the programs of modern Russian television and their presenters.


The article cited on Wikipedia is in Russian:
https://meduza.io/news/2019/07/28/umer-zhurnalist-vladimir-kara-murza

Translated, it only says:
Journalist Vladimir Kara-Murza died
04:36, July 28, 2019
Source: Vladimir Kara-Murza Jr.
Reliable source
Journalist Vladimir Kara-Murza died on the 60th year of life. This was announced on Twitter by his son Vladimir Kara-Murza Jr.

The causes of death are not called.


sellitman

(11,605 posts)
13. Maybe fear of this is why?
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 07:12 PM
Jul 2019

Maybe fear of this is why Lindsey Graham and others in his party have become trump's lackey's. Maybe this is why they have done a complete 180?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
34. I think you might be right.
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 09:44 PM
Jul 2019

There has to be a reason for Graham's sudden about face and the slavish loyalty of others in the party that you know just hate his guts.

Are they all that susceptible to blackmail or is their an even bigger threat hanging over their heads if they betray him?

sellitman

(11,605 posts)
43. And
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 05:22 PM
Jul 2019

The fact that the Russians control the justice department too means that their crimes can go completely unpunished.

Pretty effing scary

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
15. tRump is furiously texting Barr and Bolton as to how he can do the same thing
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 07:14 PM
Jul 2019

Dozens and dozens of journalists would be dead here in a week, but tRump would just say he was happy that there are so many new job opportunities for recent journalism graduates, and how it would improve his unemployment numbers.

EleanorR

(2,388 posts)
17. Navalny is the man whose work revealed the "Deripaska tapes"
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 07:43 PM
Jul 2019



Yes, this Deripaska, Moscow Mitch's buddy.

Rusal, the aluminum company partially owned by Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, announced plans to invest around $200 million to build a new aluminum plant in Kentucky just months after the Trump administration removed it from the U.S. sanctions list.

https://www.newsweek.com/company-russian-oligarch-millions-aluminum-plant-mitch-mcconnell-1397061

lapfog_1

(29,191 posts)
39. What happened to the Russian escort who made the recordings on Deripaska's boat
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 10:27 PM
Jul 2019

and who was very afraid of being deported from Thailand back to Russia.

When she got to Russia she basically pleaded for her life and promised to renounce the entire story as "fake News"

Initech

(100,034 posts)
21. Putin is a terrorist.
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 07:51 PM
Jul 2019

Really, he and his ilk should be talked about in the same breath as Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Fuck that guy.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
30. Did he shoot down airplanes of innocent civilians?
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 09:20 PM
Jul 2019

Why yes he did! He is a full fledged, card carrying terrorist.

Another missed clue. The fucking asshole NRA idiots (and if you are in the NRA you are an anti American idiot) were all onboard with Putin after Crimea.

Why, because the ignorant NRA members read the propaganda put out by the NRA.

Initech

(100,034 posts)
35. He is absolutely a terrorist.
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 09:56 PM
Jul 2019

We should have seen the warning signs with Crimea, Catalonia, the Philippines, Brexit, Trump, Brazil, I could go on and on.

Russia didn't just merely meddle in our election. They've got operatives all around the world and they are hell bent on weakening democracy and ensuring that they are the dominant power throughout the world.

Putin is a James Bond villain. It might take a Bond to stop him.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
22. Our countries are now joined in corruption, so shouldn't the Dems plan a press conference?
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 07:53 PM
Jul 2019

If those protestors are supported more by the majority of Anericans via the House, they have a greater chance of overthrowing Putin. If we're in a political war with Russia's crime lords, the Dems should jump at this opportunity

paleotn

(17,881 posts)
25. Vlad being Vlad....
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 08:04 PM
Jul 2019

What matters now is what the Russian people do with this. It would be ironic if we started talking about the Russian Summer like we did the Arab Spring. Ironic as hell after all the shit he's pulled if his own country ends up with massive demonstrations and an armed insurrection. Damn scary for the rest of the world too, but karma works that way sometimes. He's not going to get away with the Syrian disaster unscathed.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
29. At what point do we re-visit our position on assassinating foreign leaders?
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 08:49 PM
Jul 2019

I'm just asking. I'm not necessarily for it. Yet! But it's an idea

lastlib

(23,149 posts)
41. FUCK YOU, PUTIN! Just--FUCK YOU!
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 11:24 PM
Jul 2019

With an old rusty, manure-encrusted, tetanus-infected pitchfork.

AND your henchman in our White House.

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