Moscow Mitch KNEW "The Fix Was In"

[kpete]

In case you're wondering why #MoscowMitchMcTreason blocked the #MerrickGarland nomination even when Hillary was considered a shoe-in who'd no doubt pick someone more progressive, it was because the stinking little #traitor knew the election was rigged for Trump.
The fix was in.

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[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. There is no doubt in my mind, NONE. n/t

[malaise]

2. Ditto

[FakeNoose]

3. The fix was in - but how did Mitch know?

Did Pootie tell him directly?

This needs to be investigated thoroughly.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

7. payment had already come through NRA from Russia

Wonder if there were any instructions from Putin attached to the payments?

[bearfan454]

15. That is exactly what happened

Russia discovered how easy it was to let greed overtake standing up for your country. Moscow Mitch and the rest of the repukes are cashing in on letting Russia interfere in our elections.

[Mr.Bill]

4. I believe what the OP says is true,

but my question is if they are so good with fixing elections, how did we do so well in Congressional races in 2018? Is it because they are only capable of fixing national races because of the electoral college and not good at the local elections?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

8. big blue tidal wave

Rigging an election with a big enough margin to overcome a true grass roots wave would risk having gigantic wins where they should not happen. Any unforeseen, large turnout can therefore overwhelm ordinary cheating. You can only rig elections without fear if you have despotic power over the populace.

[Eyeball_Kid]

29. The hackers hide within the margin of error.

Big wins or big losses, reversed through hacking, would be easily tracked.

[alwaysinasnit]

35. +1000

[Baltimike]

58. this. nt

[Texin]

11. I think the Rs let the Dems win it so they could sit on their collective hands for 2+ years after.

There has been no action in the senate since 2018. Moscow Mitch has blocked everything before anything can be brought to a vote. By creating a legislative dead zone, they block Dems' efforts to enact productive legislation, and coupled with the talk of Impeachment, they were hoping/banking on that legislative blockaid by Moscow Mitch to blame it all on the Dems for doing nothing productive except trying to throw tRump out office.

I fully believe that they had every mechanism in their arsenal to rig the mid-terms if they controlled the state and/or local districts. Regardless of the far greater numbers of Democratic votes in 2018, they still could have rigged the races for the Rs. God knows, we now know (and suspected after 2016) that Putin and his FSB had the wherewithal - and rethugs - permission to do so.

[bearfan454]

16. All internet connections from the Russian intelligence service were turned off

the day of the midterms.

[CrispyQ]

19. The House is 435 elections.

The White House only takes hacking a few key states to impact the electoral college. I saw a documentary* last night about the 2016 election & the Russian influence via social media & it stated that about 70,000 people in four key states got Trump elected.

* "The Great Hack," on Netflix. Great discussion on data rights & how we should each have data rights as well as human rights. Check it out.

[Johnyawl]

5. The reality is it wouldn't have mattered who won the election...

...Moscow Mitch had already said that if Hillary wins he'd hold that seat open for 4 years.

[spanone]

6. and now the fucker has the nerve to blame Obama.

[KPN]

9. There should be no question about this in anyone's mind. Skepticism can be a good thing, but

not in this case. Two plus two always equals four even when it seems objectively unlikely. At a minimum, Moscow Mitch knew that despite all of the early polls showing a slam dunk for Hillary (against any R candidate) Putin's assistance was in place and gave them a reasonable chance.

Will we ever learn the facts? That's the only real question.

[catbyte]

10. Nobody will convince me otherwise.

[MFGsunny]

12. THAT was the first dead give-away for me that TraitorTrump's Russian fix was in.

I mean, seriously, would Moscow Mitch ACTUALLY be waiting for Hillary to win??????

[Botany]

13. As did Paul Ryan, Kevin McCarthy, and Mike Pence

n/t

[thesquanderer]

14. re:"even when Hillary was considered a shoe-in who'd...pick someone more progressive"

A less nefarious explanation:

There was always a CHANCE Trump would win. But if he'd lost as expected, there would still be plenty of time between election day and Jan 20 of the following year (when Hillary would be sworn in) to confirm Garland and prevent Hillary from going with someone more progressive.

Having taken the stand he did before the election, there was no reason for him to change his mind until after the election. So, this is no evidence of a fix, it was the logical thing to do, from the perspective of someone who wanted the best chance of the least progressive nominee. He took a no-lose strategy, no matter how the election turned out.

[JHB]

17. Precisely. The Republicans treated cooperation with Obama like it was poison...

...so Mich saw no upside to potentially confirming an Obama nominee.

The window for it, and IIRC Orrin Hatch said this explicitly, was that after a Hillary win they could approve Garland by telling their foamers that "Hillary would nominate someone worse", and by the next election said foamers would be on to something else and no one would hold their feet to the fire about Garland.

And a Trump win would let them steal the seat.

That's a political calculation that Mitch could make without Russian help.

[stopdiggin]

31. wouldn't it be more likely that Garland would withdraw? (nt)

[thesquanderer]

32. Why should he? He presumably wanted the job.

Nor would Obama be likely to withdraw him in favor of another candidate, after repeatedly going to bat for what an outstanding justice Garland would be. What would be his rationale to make a change, how would that look?

[stopdiggin]

33. my thought was

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that Garland would no longer be the pick of the presumptive office holder. I know courtesy and respect are quaint, and somewhat dated, terms .. (and even more so 2 1/2 years on) I honestly don't know how it would play out. You might be quite right.

[Baltimike]

18. Indeed, Indeed, Indeed. The Russians RIGGED the election. nt

[Botany]

22. And the Russians bragged about it too.

'U.S. spies slept' while Russia elected Trump, Russian politician says

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/09/12/russian-politician-american-intelligence-slept-russia-elected-president/660297001/

A Russian politician ridiculed the American intelligence community during a television appearance Sunday, saying it "slept through while Russia elected a new U.S. president."

Vyacheslav Nikonov, a member of the Duma — Russia's parliament — made the snide comment during a Sunday appearance on a Russian news program, Sunday Evening with Vladimir Solovyov.

"To achieve world dominance) the U.S. overextended themselves," Nikonov said, according to a translation from CNN. "Because the most recent tendencies, economical, military, even tendencies in the intelligence (services) which slept through while Russia elected a new U.S. president."

[Baltimike]

25. This is very true....and I have no idea what this holy grail is about

not admitting to the fact that they changed votes. Yes. Voting machine votes. It's like the moratorium on calling someone lying a liar that was all the rage in the early 2000's. (Hence Franken's book)

I have no idea why they think people will not vote if they know about the vote rigging and not that people won't bother to vote if they keep getting lied to about what went down

[Botany]

28. To think that Putin and his minions would:

look @ the hardware and software of the operating systems for the voting machines and
central tabulators, send out all those spear phishing emails to election officials, exam the
cyber security of our voting systems, get inside information (data analytics) from the Trump
campaign, have an active presence in all 50 states, and steal all those voter d-bases and
not do anything like change the vote or remove voters from voter rolls is crazy.

[stopdiggin]

36. and yet, we're still waiting for evidence that they did.

when that evidence is produced (or attested to by reliable authority) I will be happy to concede the point. Until then, I am content to follow (fairly closely) what LE and intelligence sources are telling me.

[Farmer-Rick]

55. Yeah and we're still waiting on absolute evidence for impeachment

But Trump is still a criminal.

The evidence is there just as described. We just don't want to accept it because it's not a smoking gun. Many a murder is solved without smoking gun evidence.

We may be unable to follow the full hacking of the vote count because Russian hackers have covered their tracks. If they are as good as our FBI thinks they are, Russia has hidden their footprint so well our counter espionage unit can't or won't find it.

Waiting for smoking gun evidence is just another way to hide the truth.

[stopdiggin]

59. to decide guilt or innocence without evidence

is the definition of prejudice and injustice. (and, come to think of it, conspiracy and superstition as well) I don't think I'll be signing up.

--"We may be unable to follow the full hacking of the vote count because Russian hackers have covered their tracks. If they are as good as our FBI thinks they are, Russia has hidden their footprint so well our counter espionage unit can't or won't find it."--

To sum up .. "we can't find it, but we KNOW it happened". Okie dokie, then. But I'm not sure about Mothman or the Loch Ness Monster either. Cheers!

[Farmer-Rick]

60. No,there is plenty of evidence that Russian spies were into every single voting system in the US

There is just NOT smoking gun evidence that you think should be required. We have plenty of circumstantial evidence. Many a person has been convicted on circumstantial evidence alone.

Botany listed all the evidence for you:

1. Russians looked at the hardware and software of the operating systems for every state's voting machines and central tabulators.

2. They sent out all those spear phishing emails to election officials.

3. Spies from Russia examined the cyber security of every states's voting systems.

4. They got inside information (data analytics) from the Trump campaign.

5. And they stole many of the states's voter databases.

That is pretty damning evidence. To have done all that but then stopped, to have acquired all the information necessary to switch votes, change counts and remove people from the voting rolls so those people got placebo ballots and their votes did not get counted. To have gone to the edge and NOT change votes or manipulate counts is kind of useless and most reasonable people would NOT believe it.

[stopdiggin]

61. that is pretty damming evidence .. of the things you (or Botany) STATE

and zero evidence of the things you infer MUST have happened.
--"to switch votes, change counts and remove people from the voting rolls so .."--
Where did this actually happen?

Isn't interesting that we were able to find forensics (and testimony) for the things you listed (that we all acknowledge happened) .. and yet silence on the score of actual switched/changed votes? "Coulda'/woulda/shoulda" is inference not proof. Your belief that something "must have" happened cannot stand in the place of evidence of what DID happen.

Sorry, Rick .. looks like we're just not gonna' agree on this one. You're entitled to your opinion (and it looks like you've got plenty of company) but I'm still waiting for something that looks like proof.

[Farmer-Rick]

62. That is an impossible level of evidence you want.

But if you feel there is Not enough evidence to be convinced then that's fine. We all have to decide for ourselves what is sufficient evidence to believe.

I don't believe in any god because there is insufficient evidence of any such supernatural being. So, I respect your need for significantly higher standards of evidence.

[marieo1]

20. Moscow Mitch

He definitely is 'Moscow Mitch' - he has never in his life done one good thing for our country - just like DJT- Moscow Mitch, Moscow Mitch, Moscow Mitch - describes him to a T and is a honest and realistic name for him. He can say otherwise all he wants but we all have been watching and listening to him for many years and the American people know. He has gone negative on ALL bills that will help us - the American people. He has always been a piece of crap!!

[Pepsidog]

24. Benedict Donald and Moscow Mitch ship them both off to Russia

[Pepsidog]

21. I'm generally not a conspiracy theorist, but I think you may be right in this case

[renate]

23. as I recall, there were a lot of Russians who also totally weren't surprised on election night

They weren't subtle about it, either.

And razor-thin margins (but just enough!) in the three states they needed? Winning the electoral college by 70,000 votes and losing the popular vote by THREE MILLION? Gee, what a surprise.

[EarlG]

26. ...

[FailureToCommunicate]

46. Nice!

Awful, but spot on.

[oasis]

27. Moscow Mitch has to go!

[Meadowoak]

52. Please donate to Amy McGrath, if you can. She can beat him.

[oasis]

53. In the coming months I'll do what I can for McGrath. nt

[Grasswire2]

30. FOLLOW this guy if you use twitter!

He's surprised at the attention.

His whole feed is great. He makes freeway signs and puts them up.

[volstork]

34. Of course it was.

I was suspicious from the moment he stonewalled Merrill Garland. Crystal clear.

I’d love for the little shit’s dirty laundry to be plastered in every front page in the world.

[dawnie51]

37. There is no other explanation.....

and I have thought this from the jump. He's a POS.

[trof]

38. Shoo in. As in "Shoo, cat!"

Sorry.
It's a compulsion.

[LiberalArkie]

39. And so did Karl Rove years ago.

[diva77]

41. Yes, we have our own homegrown election fraud bringing us down as well

[dchill]

40. K&R.

[UpInArms]

42. Glad this is getting more recognition

I’ve been saying it for quite a while now ...

I thought something was stinking to high heaven when he blocked it, saying the next president should nominate... HTF could he have been so certain that Hillary would not be that President?

[ReformedGOPer]

43. Exactly. I always believed this once Trump won.

Why would the turtle ever trust the new justice to the new president, unless he knew how it was going to go.

[bucolic_frolic]

44. Ain't no doubt about it

There is no wiggle room for another explanation

[Kid Berwyn]

45. THAT's what they're so afraid of.

If there are tapes, NSA has them. And thus Ratcliffe is sent after them.

[PoliticAverse]

47. Unless you seriously think McConnell would have confirmed someone more progressive than Garland...

that argument fails.

Also, had Clinton been elected McConnell could have gotten Garland confirmed in the time between the election and the time Clinton took office if he desired to do so.

So from a game theory prospective it was a Win-Draw strategy:
Trump wins a Republican nominee takes the court.
Trump loses either you confirm Garland anyway or continue saying no for 4 more years.

[jg10003]

48. A few days before the election I saw Kellyanne Conway on TV

The interviewer was asking questions that presumed Clinton would win. Conway said "I think we're going to win. We have friends who are going to win this for us." I remember a sudden feeling of foreboding and fear. I thought "who are these friends? Why does this person, who always sounds like a clown, suddenly sound like she knows something?"

[shraby]

49. I figured that out right after the election. Why else would Moscow mitch put a hold on

Garland?
No other reason.

[Timmygoat]

51. Please folks

Do not stop calling him Moscow Mitch, I love how it gets under his skin. Draft dodger Donald has made a career of calling people names, let them have a taste of their own medicine.

[Bluepinky]

54. Yes, and he held up filling boatloads of federal judge positions.

The Repubs have been playing the long game. Take over all three branches of government, executive, legislative and judicial. Game over.

[calimary]

56. Wouldn't surprise me.

[Baltimike]

57. kick