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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 02:29 PM Jul 2019

Epstein had pics of his naked underage victims displayed throughout his Palm Beach home & would film

Jeffrey Epstein had photos of his naked underage victims displayed throughout his Palm Beach home and would film the girls on hidden cameras

WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT

* Police discovered that Jeffrey Epstein had photos of his young victims displayed all around his house when they executed a search warrant in 2005

* Many of the photos were of the same underage girls that detectives had interviewed in the case

*That search also turned up two hidden cameras that were placed in clocks: one in his library and one in his garage

*Nada Marcinkova, who now goes by Nadia, was one of Epstein's victims and as young as 15 when she first began having sex with Epstein and other victims

*She was forced to have sex with at least three other women, two of whom were underage, while Epstein would watch and perform sex acts on himself

*'Epstein had purchased her from her family in Yugoslavia,' wrote Detective Joseph Recarey after his interview with one victim

*'Epstein bragged he brought her into the United States to be his Yugoslavian sex slave,' Detective Recarey said after speaking to that same victim


Police discovered photos of naked young girls on display throughout Jeffrey Epstein's house while executing a 2005 search warrant.

Even more shocking however, was the fact that many of the photos were of the same underage girls that detectives had interviewed in the case.

This is noted in a probable cause affidavit from the Palm Beach Police Department that was obtained by DailyMail.com.

In addition, clocks in the garage and library were discovered to have hidden cameras that had filmed some of the girls inside the house.

Those images were found stored on a computer hard drive in the residence.

More: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7299269/Jeffrey-Epstein-photos-naked-underage-victims-displayed-Palm-Beach-home.html
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Epstein had pics of his naked underage victims displayed throughout his Palm Beach home & would film (Original Post) MelissaB Jul 2019 OP
Recommended. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #1
And still, he got a light sentence? Criminal... Frustratedlady Jul 2019 #2
Be interesting if FBI found photos of Epstein's wealthy victims . . . compromised empedocles Jul 2019 #4
Please correct me if I am wrong: olegramps Jul 2019 #63
FBI has some culpability, but yes. Where Republicans Hortensis Jul 2019 #64
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Epstein is to appear in court - today. empedocles Jul 2019 #66
He did True Blue American Jul 2019 #69
Suspect Epstein will be in the news a lot before trial . . . empedocles Jul 2019 #73
Child porn... is there a statute of limitations? dawg day Jul 2019 #10
Many times, it's not what you did, but who you know that counts... paleotn Jul 2019 #14
Exactly! Trump's closest friends are involved in trafficking kids. Missing immigrant children? Scotch-Irish Jul 2019 #67
I still wonder what happened to those True Blue American Jul 2019 #74
What bothers me is why nobody else is making that all too obvious connection Scotch-Irish Jul 2019 #75
Also human trafficking. Liberty Belle Jul 2019 #33
Exactly! Why the fuck isn't he still in prison? Drahthaardogs Jul 2019 #57
i almost recced this, melissa rampartc Jul 2019 #3
From police report dalton99a Jul 2019 #5
Ew! That's why Trump & Epstein hit it off so well. TheBlackAdder Jul 2019 #37
The shroom & the egg? luvallpeeps Jul 2019 #52
They are the yin and yang to each other Pachamama Jul 2019 #78
As big a slime as this guy is it all makes me begin to think of a Philip K. Dick novel pecosbob Jul 2019 #6
His video stash duforsure Jul 2019 #7
I'm getting a really bad feeling about the FBI and the role it has played in the degradation Baitball Blogger Jul 2019 #8
There's also Acosta's US Attorney's office-- dawg day Jul 2019 #11
The hoi polloi may have needed the FBI to be dogged investigators gratuitous Jul 2019 #12
Well, fuck. There goes their reputation. Baitball Blogger Jul 2019 #22
I fear you maybe on to something here. Pepsidog Jul 2019 #13
I think the FBI tries to be unobtrusive and apolitical and are subject, obviously, bucolic_frolic Jul 2019 #15
There's a long history not fooled Jul 2019 #17
Can you speculate on what that agenda(s) they might possibly be following? I ask because, ancianita Jul 2019 #20
I'm wondering that myself. Baitball Blogger Jul 2019 #24
possible asset? stopdiggin Jul 2019 #30
So you've already decided that they d "have an agenda"? whathehell Jul 2019 #42
You don't think that maintaining the status quo is bad enough? Baitball Blogger Jul 2019 #43
The "status quo"? That takes in a LOT, so whathehell Jul 2019 #44
Everything that allows conservatives to game the system to their advantage. Baitball Blogger Jul 2019 #45
bingo!!! gopiscrap Jul 2019 #54
Read this OP malaise Jul 2019 #25
Acosta obstructed Justice. Delmette2.0 Jul 2019 #23
The Iraq invasion & handling of 9/11 were all the PNAC, not FBI. CaptainTruth Jul 2019 #28
Do not write that book... TomVilmer Jul 2019 #60
They allowed a Russian criminal eneterprise to operate for how long. boston bean Jul 2019 #49
I suspect that they have made a pact with the devil. I thought it was something out of Baitball Blogger Jul 2019 #50
There are definitely issues at the fbi. boston bean Jul 2019 #51
the FBI **is** part of the establishment Locrian Jul 2019 #58
So let's remove the tag that they're an objective organization. Baitball Blogger Jul 2019 #62
I would agree with that - n/t Locrian Jul 2019 #65
Comey come to mind? True Blue American Jul 2019 #72
K&R Leghorn21 Jul 2019 #9
We haven't heard it all yet FakeNoose Jul 2019 #16
So they were having sex in the garage and the library? That's odd. YOHABLO Jul 2019 #18
My guess, Stryst Jul 2019 #61
bought overseas, eh? who else was involved? Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #19
Same places Trump got his models who worked in the US illegally? Lonestarblue Jul 2019 #34
many people are saying Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #38
Trump is still tied to Epstein before 2005 angrychair Jul 2019 #21
Trump on tape C_U_L8R Jul 2019 #26
kick, kick Ligyron Jul 2019 #27
Lock him up and throw away the key. oasis Jul 2019 #29
Some heads need to ROLL on this... Ferrets are Cool Jul 2019 #31
Discusting!! LW1977 Jul 2019 #32
Want another scary theory, watoos Jul 2019 #35
Honestly, it's not THAT far-fetched, but I don't buy the Mossad acted alone mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #77
Epstein bought a 15 year old from her family? Sex trafficking is a federal felony. yardwork Jul 2019 #36
These leaks would make barr anxious. empedocles Jul 2019 #39
He's fucked Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 #40
W? moonseller66 Jul 2019 #41
Epstein should have gone down hard then and should go down hard no. PufPuf23 Jul 2019 #46
This revelation is what caused Barr to abruptly un-recuse himself from the Epstein saga. Snarkoleptic Jul 2019 #47
Where are the Dershpedo 15 y/o consent defenders? MerryBlooms Jul 2019 #48
It was defenitely here. I read that thread too. Bradical79 Jul 2019 #53
Oh it was here all right. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #55
Good Christ... that was pretty creepy. LanternWaste Jul 2019 #71
Now you know why douchebagowitz chose 15 in his opinion column rpannier Jul 2019 #56
It reminds me of the Franklin Affair UpInArms Jul 2019 #59
Same here. roamer65 Jul 2019 #79
Kickin' with disgust Faux pas Jul 2019 #68
he should be bdamomma Jul 2019 #70
Epstein is a sick sick man. riversedge Jul 2019 #76

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
2. And still, he got a light sentence? Criminal...
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 02:36 PM
Jul 2019

He should have been charged with filming porno videos, as well as all the other charges.

I'd love to know the rest of the story as to who, in law enforcement, helped him get off the hook for the majority of his time. You could hardly call it a sentence.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
63. Please correct me if I am wrong:
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:21 AM
Jul 2019

Doesn't the FBI investigate potential crimes, amass the evidence and then present it to the prosecution which is responsible for obtaining an indictment and prosecution at trial? It would appear to me that the FBI did what the are charged with and seemingly did a good job in finding hidden cameras and other damning evidence. What we seem to have is just another incident of Republican corruption. The Republican Party is a criminal enterprise. It is just that simple. Look at the presidencies dating from Nixon and everyone has involved in corruption and illegality.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
64. FBI has some culpability, but yes. Where Republicans
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:43 AM
Jul 2019

control government, there will be corruption. It was always normal for many conservatives to believe government is intrinsically corrupting and destructive and then to at very least embrace a too-permissive attitude. But these days they don't get elected or appointed if they haven't already agreed to be corrupt, and a lot of positions have been stuffed with a lot of real scum.

Btw, a political scientist once told me liberals are different because, however strong or weak their characters may be, they typically come to office believing government is supposed to be put to work for the good of the people and wanting to be part of that. Most corruption is limited to what is needed to get reelected and continue. Bad as that is, it's in an entirely different league -- and something we can largely fix through various bills in the HR 1 anticorruption bill waiting for the 2020 election to pass into law.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
66. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Epstein is to appear in court - today.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:31 PM
Jul 2019

I like the amount of evidence [underage girl photos on wall in NY home, lot of videos, etc. also seized], has been made public already. This makes sleazey barr's job and trump pardon harder. Also gives Epstein time to give up on Get Out of Jail Free cards.
Even a 6-2020 trial date would be ok to warm up the 'con Convention that summer.

That's the hope anyway - as the sun just came out here.



dawg day

(7,947 posts)
10. Child porn... is there a statute of limitations?
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 03:19 PM
Jul 2019

Not under federal law. That might mean he could be indicted on those old offenses... though it sounds like they found some recent films and photos when they busted down the door of his big Manhattan mansion!

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
14. Many times, it's not what you did, but who you know that counts...
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 03:33 PM
Jul 2019

Or in Jeffey's case, who you're blackmailing.

 

Scotch-Irish

(464 posts)
67. Exactly! Trump's closest friends are involved in trafficking kids. Missing immigrant children?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:14 PM
Jul 2019

The ones taken from their parents? How much are they selling some of those kids for? THAT is what people should be paying attention to with this Trump policy to remove the kids from the protection of their parents and family. I just wish there was a really good investigative journalist who could prove it, and an uncompromised FBI willing to investigate it.

Common sense and what we already know about Trump's circle, together with how wide spread the market is on the down-low, so many are compromised, and, therefore, easily controlled.

I feel certain that Lindsay Graham has been caught with his hand in the pedophilia cookie jar, and Trump probably knows Lindsay's provider. The republican party is rife with pedophiles. Remember the George Bush Sr. Franklin Community Federal Credit Union scandal? (Google THAT one!!!) During the Bush Jr. years, I think half the republicans in congress were caught with kids.

Trump probably knows who they all are because the people who supply those kids to the pervs are all known by the Trump circle. Trafficking, money laundering. Everything corrupt has Trump's name all over it.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
74. I still wonder what happened to those
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:49 PM
Jul 2019

5 or 6 little girls moved across the country in the dead of night Gone

 

Scotch-Irish

(464 posts)
75. What bothers me is why nobody else is making that all too obvious connection
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 03:08 PM
Jul 2019

Sometimes I think our media is either clueless, or not allowed to say what millions of people must be thinking.

rampartc

(5,400 posts)
3. i almost recced this, melissa
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 02:37 PM
Jul 2019

but Epstein, and all of these men, are too disgusting to contemplate.

get everything he knows on paper and lock him, and his accomplices, in dark holes with no massage privilege. but spare me the details.

Pachamama

(16,886 posts)
78. They are the yin and yang to each other
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 03:38 PM
Jul 2019

Ewwww....

I need to get that image out of my head of both.....

pecosbob

(7,534 posts)
6. As big a slime as this guy is it all makes me begin to think of a Philip K. Dick novel
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 02:52 PM
Jul 2019

and an 'orgy of evidence'. Is Epstein the news they want to avoid, or is he even more cover for ? Surprising to me that that this sort of stuff as well as the passport would be carelessly left behind.

Baitball Blogger

(46,698 posts)
8. I'm getting a really bad feeling about the FBI and the role it has played in the degradation
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 03:16 PM
Jul 2019

in our society. They just didn't seem to step up their game, when we needed them the most.

Whether it was 9/11 and allowing the Saudi family to take flight early after the attacks, or withholding information in finding blame for 9/11 that allowed Bush II to really screw this country up by attacking the wrong country. Or, whether it was Comey breaking with conventional wisdom and changing the course of an election by not waiting until after an election to report the start of an investigation - since, fuck, you had nothing to report. And now the Epstein and sex abuses of underage children.

Anyone else think that the FBI intentionally withholds information to follow an agenda it can't obtain any other way?

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
11. There's also Acosta's US Attorney's office--
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 03:22 PM
Jul 2019

Acosta did his best to make it impossible for even another jurisdiction to prosecute him or.... wait for it...
“any potential co-conspirators.”

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. The hoi polloi may have needed the FBI to be dogged investigators
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 03:22 PM
Jul 2019

But the hoi megaloi needed them even more to be pliant, amenable lapdogs.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
15. I think the FBI tries to be unobtrusive and apolitical and are subject, obviously,
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 03:37 PM
Jul 2019

to people trying to blame them for investigating, such as Barr is doing now. And look how Comey was pushed, prodded into saying something. Perhaps preserving the secrecy of their methods of investigation sometimes has more priority than acting on what they discovered.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
17. There's a long history
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 03:41 PM
Jul 2019

of the FBI being misused for twisted aims. Remember Hoover keeping files on prominent politicians and "lefties". He tried to induce MLK to commit suicide. Many other bad actions.

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
20. Can you speculate on what that agenda(s) they might possibly be following? I ask because,
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 03:46 PM
Jul 2019

besides their stated mission of threat assessment, I never thought there'd be anything else.

Baitball Blogger

(46,698 posts)
24. I'm wondering that myself.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 04:01 PM
Jul 2019

As a minority I can see that our issues are not their priority, but that's a given. I just don't know who is pulling the strings, unless the sad truth is that they serve at the beck and call of a conservative agenda. In other words, they are so indoctrinated to follow a conservative agenda that they're eating their own tails?

stopdiggin

(11,292 posts)
30. possible asset?
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 04:29 PM
Jul 2019
IF (and I'm still using a very big if) Epstein is or was an asset for somebody .. then it's entirely plausible that he could have been allowed to slide on a lot of known issues and shady dealings. Not only the FBI. A lot of government agencies could be told to look away. And (maybe) that brings us to Acosta.
malaise has an interesting link

whathehell

(29,065 posts)
42. So you've already decided that they d "have an agenda"?
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:40 PM
Jul 2019

As someone else here asked "What would that be"?

Baitball Blogger

(46,698 posts)
45. Everything that allows conservatives to game the system to their advantage.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:15 PM
Jul 2019

I mean, how many FBI fuck-ups actually helped progressives?

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
60. Do not write that book...
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:09 AM
Jul 2019

... there are lots of newer wars to research. And most of those old rumors is anyway BS. When PNAC wrote about "a new Pearl Harbor", it was a complaint about the Joint Strike Fighter program: "a total of approximately $200 billion, seems an unwise investment ..."

PNAC did not manage their main goal - to stop the F35 - and not much else either!
https://web.archive.org/web/20020923154604/http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf#page=63

Baitball Blogger

(46,698 posts)
50. I suspect that they have made a pact with the devil. I thought it was something out of
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:23 PM
Jul 2019

the past the way they favored one criminal organization to get information on the others, but, Jesus. How can you be an authority on the moral high ground when you're as tainted as the people you're supposed to keep in check?

boston bean

(36,220 posts)
51. There are definitely issues at the fbi.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:29 PM
Jul 2019

2016 and in it has been a glaring red blinking light that they as an institution have been corrupted.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
58. the FBI **is** part of the establishment
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:52 AM
Jul 2019

It doesn't have to be told or instructed - it naturally works for the powerful, whomever that is at the moment, was in the past.

Like politicians - they don't work for us, they work for the powerful - those that pay them, interact with them, *are* them.

Making deals and 'knowing better' than the public, etc isn't the bug it's the feature.

FakeNoose

(32,620 posts)
16. We haven't heard it all yet
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 03:38 PM
Jul 2019

The real reason for the girls, the cameras, mansions, the private jets - it was all for kompromat and blackmailing extremely wealthy powerful men.

How long have the FBI known, and how long have they allowed it to continue?

Stryst

(714 posts)
61. My guess,
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:18 AM
Jul 2019

Those two cameras were for security, not sex. A camera in the garage to catch anyone trying to sneak into or out of the house, and the library because that's where he hid something like a server or a safe.

Lonestarblue

(9,963 posts)
34. Same places Trump got his models who worked in the US illegally?
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 04:45 PM
Jul 2019

If Epstein had film of Trump with an underage girl, Barr will see that it is destroyed immediately.

angrychair

(8,690 posts)
21. Trump is still tied to Epstein before 2005
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 03:55 PM
Jul 2019

Trump was likely, at the very least, aware of Epstein's proclivities but choose to ignore them.

We know that he was because he is quoted saying as much during this same timeframe:

I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Mr. Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”


So he speaks highly of him in 2002, in 2005 Epstein is arrested for crimes against children, longtime friend and lawyer Alan Dershowitz becomes Epstein's attorney in 2006, DA at the time and future trump cabinet member Acosta, gives Epstein a sweetheart deal.

Ligyron

(7,624 posts)
27. kick, kick
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 04:19 PM
Jul 2019

My home town. It's a pretty kinky place for consenting adults on vacation but children? Good gawd...

Maybe there will be some justice now that this has been exposed.

Wonder who else got filmed doing what in his house? Who has that material now and exactly where is it?

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
35. Want another scary theory,
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 04:51 PM
Jul 2019

of why Epstein was untouchable?

Go to Dr. Steve Pieczernik's You Tube site. He has a video up about Epstein. He claims that Epstein was recruited by the Mossad to do just what it looks like he was doing, getting dirt on powerful people and then blackmailing them.

I understand all about Pieczernik, but in today's crazy world anything is possible.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
77. Honestly, it's not THAT far-fetched, but I don't buy the Mossad acted alone
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 03:31 PM
Jul 2019

He had to have protection in the US, and he clearly did (Acosta, et al).

The FLAGRANCY with which he conducted this ... uh ... operation, including pics of victims on the wall (I'm guessing many were even topless based on other stuff I've read) ... suggests to me that he felt VERY protected.

Which in turn would've been alluring to potential Kompromat victims. The overall picture to them upon arriving on Epstein's various estates would've been that he MUST be well-protected, and hence THEY would be well-protected.

I DEFINITELY think there's a LOT more to this story than what we know so far. We may never find it out, but ... almost positive there is.

moonseller66

(430 posts)
41. W?
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 07:49 PM
Jul 2019

Has there been any connection to W with Epstein...as friends, etc.?

Was Acosta friends or associated with W?

Just curious since it hasn't been brought up like the thing with Clinton.

PufPuf23

(8,764 posts)
46. Epstein should have gone down hard then and should go down hard no.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:33 PM
Jul 2019

The chain of prosecution that allowed this travesty should be investigated and hopefully prosecuted. I suspect Epstein has had protection from as well as served some high places.

MerryBlooms

(11,761 posts)
48. Where are the Dershpedo 15 y/o consent defenders?
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:51 PM
Jul 2019

Pretty sure it was here on DU where several monikers defending and promoted lowering the age of 'consent' earlier today or yesterday. Maybe it wasn't DU, but I'm sure I read something here about how only Puritans are against lowering the age of consent. Saw some backtracking, but too late, cat-out-of-the-bag on that disgusting bullshit. If it wasn't DU but one of the other pages, I apologize. This subject makes my skin crawl, seeing people in favor of lowering consent age... With only females, cause they never mention males when promoting their 'teens sexual freedom' bullshit.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
71. Good Christ... that was pretty creepy.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:34 PM
Jul 2019

I'm guessing many of the Dershowtitz threads will be bringing out some pretty borderline appetites.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
79. Same here.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 05:31 PM
Jul 2019

Mentioned that a few days back. Has all the hallmarks of a underage sex trafficking ring like the Franklin S&L scandal.

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