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TheBlackAdder

(28,182 posts)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:26 PM Jul 2019

Lindsey Graham Is So Scared Of Trump Impeachment That He's Threatening The House

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Lindsey Graham (R - Moscow)


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Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham warns there will be “collateral damage” if Democrats move forward on impeachment: “Those of us in the Republican Party in the Senate need to shut out the House,” meaning move on with GOP agenda
8:39 AM - 31 Jul 2019



Besides the fact that Senator Graham was warning House Democrats not to impeach his new political daddy, there was a serious threat in his statement. Graham was saying that if House Democrats impeach Trump, the Senate is going to freeze the House out. There will be no more legislation from the House that will get passed in the Senate. Mitch McConnell’s Senate majority will ignore everything that comes out of the House, including articles of impeachment.

The only constitutional requirement is that a trial is held on articles of impeachment. Theoretically, McConnell could hold a trial in an hour, have Senate Republicans vote not to convict, and impeachment ends with a whimper.

House Democrats need to ask themselves how much different life would really be if Senate Republicans ignored them. McConnell is refusing to bring House-passed bills the Senate floor for a vote, so what would House Democrats really be losing?

Republicans are very worried about impeachment, and Lindsey Graham’s words should be read not as a warning but as an expression of fear.

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/07/31/lindsey-graham-is-so-scared-of-trump-impeachment-that-hes-threatening-the-house.html



Someone's a tad worried.

PS. Don't you just want to reach into that picture and pluck that nose hair out, or do you just want to let him sport it for others to laugh?

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Lindsey Graham Is So Scared Of Trump Impeachment That He's Threatening The House (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Jul 2019 OP
He sure likes to threaten retaliation, doesn't he? nt tblue37 Jul 2019 #1
threats and retaliation are Republican values DBoon Jul 2019 #4
wonder if he was/is involved with Epstein. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2019 #10
Perverts of a feather flock together. GoCubsGo Jul 2019 #15
There HAS to be something LiberalLovinLug Jul 2019 #50
I can't decide if he's despicable or pathetic. I guess he's an equal measure of both. catbyte Jul 2019 #2
This. The_Counsel Jul 2019 #9
I think he is a psychopath. He doesn't care about leftyladyfrommo Jul 2019 #49
Despicable for $200 Alex. nt live love laugh Jul 2019 #56
Because Lil Lindsey is afraid of what will be uncovered leftieNanner Jul 2019 #3
Because they're all filthy with russian money. lindysalsagal Jul 2019 #25
Potentially Kompromat as well leftieNanner Jul 2019 #33
Grassly asked "how can you have ... Whiskeytide Jul 2019 #5
That would require thinking skills that our 'intrepid' US media clearly lacks ... mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author jayschool2013 Jul 2019 #46
Seems he needs added to the impeachment list for threating a branch of government shraby Jul 2019 #6
+1,394,228 TheBlackAdder Jul 2019 #54
I'm glad he made the point that McConnell is blocking legislation anyway, CrispyQ Jul 2019 #7
It was news to me that the Senate GOP had an agenda gratuitous Jul 2019 #20
Yup. And they need the house as much as it needs them. Hortensis Jul 2019 #22
Bless Chuck Grassley's Shriveled Heart. He Has No Idea How Obstruction Works... The_Counsel Jul 2019 #8
Somebody sure seems to have some dynamite stuff on ol' Lindsey. empedocles Jul 2019 #11
Makes you wonder what Russia found during their hack UpInArms Jul 2019 #12
Where did Graham stand on republicans impeaching Clinton??? pwb Jul 2019 #13
Don't get your panties in a bunch honey underpants Jul 2019 #14
Moscow Mitch is ALREADY blocking dem legislation !!! uponit7771 Jul 2019 #16
exactly! ergo, business as usual for Gangsters Of Putin Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #28
Most Of This So-Called Collateral Damage Would Be To The..... global1 Jul 2019 #17
...but if removal is not the goal of opening an inquiry of impeachment, we're good, Lindsay!! Grasswire2 Jul 2019 #18
boy I would love to be bdamomma Jul 2019 #30
Traitor said what? Cracklin Charlie Jul 2019 #19
That's amusing, especially since they've shut out the House since Nancy took over. Vinca Jul 2019 #21
Lindsey should stfu considering his Russian problem. rockfordfile Jul 2019 #23
Horsehockey Horizens Jul 2019 #24
And it has already been affirmed that Ilsa Jul 2019 #48
like the repigs are bdamomma Jul 2019 #27
So says the motherfucker who dragged us through the 7 year and 77million + $s impeachment "shit ... Botany Jul 2019 #29
So what's the difference? There are currently 100+ bills passed by the house that the senate ignores Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #31
What else is new? True Blue American Jul 2019 #32
Trial In Senate Is Presided Over By Chief Justice Roberts DallasNE Jul 2019 #34
However... Thunderbeast Jul 2019 #39
huh? What does the Senate do now? stillcool Jul 2019 #35
LOL! McConnell already is refusing to bring any House passed DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #36
So Leningrad Lindsey is threatening to do what Moscow Mitch is already doing? lagomorph777 Jul 2019 #37
As opposed to what? Wounded Bear Jul 2019 #38
Someone really needs to spill the beans on Scarlet. paleotn Jul 2019 #40
Scarlett? Ilsa Jul 2019 #47
That fits too... paleotn Jul 2019 #51
So what Nasruddin Jul 2019 #41
Graham's statememts sound a lot like obstruction of justice to me. patphil Jul 2019 #42
Freeze out the House? BlueIdaho Jul 2019 #43
He'll be really scared when the blackmail material gets out. n/m RhodeIslandOne Jul 2019 #44
Doesn't matter ...speaker won't impeach. Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #45
Can you threaten someone with something you are already doing or everyone knows you will do... Thomas Hurt Jul 2019 #52
Fuck Graham. Who does he think he's threatening. As if they're passing any bills now. brush Jul 2019 #53
Funny how he joked his way through the CLINTON thing like it was no big deal UTUSN Jul 2019 #55

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. wonder if he was/is involved with Epstein.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:40 PM
Jul 2019

It's been revealed that both young boys as well as girls were used in Epstein's sex ring, and that went back a long long ways, into the 80's.

All we know for sure is Graham was not a trump fan until he played one round of golf with Trump, then emerged as a devotee. I can't think of anything except a threat would work that quickly.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
15. Perverts of a feather flock together.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:50 PM
Jul 2019

It would certainly explain a lot. Epstein had dirt on lots and lots of people. He was probably using his buddy, Trump, to maintain his cover. If Graham was one of his blackmail victims, I have little doubt he would have let Don the Con in on it.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,169 posts)
50. There HAS to be something
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:05 PM
Jul 2019

That would come out in an impeachment inquiry. Because his obscene display of gluttonous sycophancy towards the fat orange pig is disgusting even for him. McCain is rolling in his grave.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
49. I think he is a psychopath. He doesn't care about
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 03:31 PM
Jul 2019

the morality or consequences if his actions. He just doesn't care.

He is an awful man. .

leftieNanner

(15,080 posts)
3. Because Lil Lindsey is afraid of what will be uncovered
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:29 PM
Jul 2019

about HIM in an impeachment inquiry.

You could save us all a lot of time and ulcers if you would just fess up and retire.

leftieNanner

(15,080 posts)
33. Potentially Kompromat as well
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:18 PM
Jul 2019

I love seeing your posts for two reasons, because they are always well thought out and interesting, and because your white kitty makes me laugh every time!

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
5. Grassly asked "how can you have ...
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:32 PM
Jul 2019

... obstruction if there isn’t any crime?” Ask him why would trump obstruct if there wasn’t a crime being covered up?

In Grassley’s view, I guess, if you obstruct well enough, you’re golden.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
26. That would require thinking skills that our 'intrepid' US media clearly lacks ...
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:45 PM
Jul 2019

And some measure of cajones ... also generally lacking.

"Did you know that obstruction law specifically says there's no need for a underlying crime to be charged for an obstruction charge to be brought ... and that's because SUCCESSFUL obstruction would in fact prevent discovery of the crime"

HOW HARD IS THAT as a follow-up question, fearless journalists?

Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #26)

shraby

(21,946 posts)
6. Seems he needs added to the impeachment list for threating a branch of government
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:34 PM
Jul 2019

for doing their job according to the constitution.

It's the peoples house he's threatening and by extension he's threatening the people of this country by withholding needed legislation.

CrispyQ

(36,446 posts)
7. I'm glad he made the point that McConnell is blocking legislation anyway,
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jul 2019

cuz that was my first thought, "Haven't they shut out the House already? So go ahead, shut out some more, you cowardly, thieving fucks."

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
20. It was news to me that the Senate GOP had an agenda
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jul 2019

Which is to say, an agenda that includes actual governance, rather than just sitting on their ample sit-upons and collecting their paychecks each month. Because that's about all the Senate has been doing since Democrats took the House. When the Democrats take back the Senate next year, the Republicans can go back to carping about being forced to do stuff.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Yup. And they need the house as much as it needs them.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:20 PM
Jul 2019

Their strength is that they will do scorched earth over this nation to get their way. The huge election coming up is their only constraint. They must win to continue to amass the control they need to stop worrying overmuch about elections.

The_Counsel

(1,660 posts)
8. Bless Chuck Grassley's Shriveled Heart. He Has No Idea How Obstruction Works...
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jul 2019
Asked about episodes of obstruction in Mueller report, Grassley dismissed it: “How can you have obstruction if there's not a crime?”


First of all, obstruction is ITSELF a crime. It is illegal to impede any investigation by law enforcement. If you really want to get to the truth, the smart thing to do is to let an investigation run its course. After all, to the compromised GOP's point: it's impossible to "find" a crime that isn't there.

Secondly, wouldn't the very ACT of obstruction be an admission that you are guilty of some crime you don't want found out? It's exactly why Nixon was going to get it in the ass if he hadn't have resigned and was eventually pardoned. And by the way, the PARDON is basically and assumption of guilt as well....

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
12. Makes you wonder what Russia found during their hack
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:44 PM
Jul 2019
Graham: Russians hacked my campaign email account

Updated 7:37 PM ET, Wed December 14, 2016

Washington (CNN)Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said Wednesday his campaign email account was hacked by Russians -- adding that the US needs to work together to stop this from happening.

"I do believe the Russians hacked into the (Democratic National Committee). I do believe they hacked into (John) Podesta's email account. They hacked into my campaign account," he told CNN's Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room." "I do believe that all the information released publicly hurt Clinton and didn't hurt Trump. I don't think the outcome of the election is in doubt. What we should do is not turn on each other but work as one people to push back on Russia."


Authoritarianism Expert Suggests That Lindsey Graham is Compromised by Russia After Being Hacked

“I can offer some theories. Lindsey Graham was one of the people who called for the investigation of the Trump campaign’s ties to the Kremlin,” Kendzior said. “He did that all the way back in 2016 before Trump was inaugurated. He has then done a complete 180. He’s been supporting Trump, he’s been covering for Trump.”
Kendzior noted that Graham’s emails were also hacked and although the contents of those emails have not been released, Graham’s defense of Trump could indicate the Senator fears what’s in those emails.

“There are a few things we should remember,” she said. “The RNC was hacked; no one knows what happened to those emails. Lindsey Graham personally was hacked and nobody knows who has those emails. The RNC is complicit financially and politically and broadly in what the Trump campaign has done in terms of illicit interactions with Russia.”
Kendzior then suggested that Graham could be, albeit involuntarily, “mixed up” in the RNC’s financial entanglements with Russia, which would explain the change in his behavior.

“We have tracked all of those financial ties and there’s pretty good chance that either voluntarily or involuntarily Senator Graham has gotten mixed up in the situation and cannot be an objective observer,” she explained.
Kendzior added that Graham has strayed from his reputation as an anti-corruption firebrand in the Senate.

global1

(25,240 posts)
17. Most Of This So-Called Collateral Damage Would Be To The.....
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:03 PM
Jul 2019

Repugs. Trump will take a number of them down with him.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
18. ...but if removal is not the goal of opening an inquiry of impeachment, we're good, Lindsay!!
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:08 PM
Jul 2019

If the goal is to expose all the wrongdoing without ever coming to a vote in 2019 or early 2020............

Democrats WIN.

Republicans LOSE.

Trump is destroyed!

Public opinion is turned against him and them!

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
30. boy I would love to be
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:52 PM
Jul 2019

invisible now and would love to eavesdrop on these filthy repigs to see how much they have sold our country away. Repigs have nothing, just their scrupulous tax cuts. They have done shit for us and the country. Vote them out.

Vinca

(50,255 posts)
21. That's amusing, especially since they've shut out the House since Nancy took over.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:13 PM
Jul 2019

Democrats have passed all kinds of good legislation and it's gone to Moscow Mitch's graveyard to die.

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
24. Horsehockey
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:37 PM
Jul 2019

"Sen. Chuck Grassley voted to convict Clinton so I asked the difference with Trump, and he said there isn’t “any evidence” Trump lied under oath"

Mueller indicated that trump did, indeed, lie under oath. Undercut the underlying evidence in the Mueller Report.

"Asked about episodes of obstruction in Mueller report, Grassley dismissed it: “How can you have obstruction if there's not a crime?”

No crimes? To date there are 37 indictments and 8 convictions>

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
27. like the repigs are
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:48 PM
Jul 2019

passing anything now in the Senate not with Moscow Mitch there. There is a big scandal going on and if we only knew how these repigs are being played even to the point of selling out the country for the orange menace. Follow the money.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
29. So says the motherfucker who dragged us through the 7 year and 77million + $s impeachment "shit ...
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:49 PM
Jul 2019

.... show" called Whitewater.

Very soon Lindsey and other republican senators will have their chance to stand up and
besides that treasonous rat bastard, Trump.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
32. What else is new?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:09 PM
Jul 2019

No House legislation has been passed since Democrats took over.

And before that only a huge tax cut for the wealthy and now raising the debt limit.

Lindsey talks big.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
34. Trial In Senate Is Presided Over By Chief Justice Roberts
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:29 PM
Jul 2019

Now he could potentially shut it down in an hour (though I doubt it) but it would not be Moscow Mitch in this case.

Thunderbeast

(3,406 posts)
39. However...
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:41 PM
Jul 2019

The rules of proceedings are set by the Senate itself. Roberts only presides to implement those rules...not to make them.

DeminPennswoods

(15,273 posts)
36. LOL! McConnell already is refusing to bring any House passed
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:36 PM
Jul 2019

legislation to the floor.

But maybe the Speaker can give Lindsay a call and let him know the House Judiciary Committee will start doing its own vetting of the rw judges Lindsay's pushing out of his Judiciary Cmte.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
37. So Leningrad Lindsey is threatening to do what Moscow Mitch is already doing?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:38 PM
Jul 2019

I don't get it. What kind of a threat is that?

Wounded Bear

(58,634 posts)
38. As opposed to what?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:39 PM
Jul 2019

McConnell has already stopped pretty much anything resembling legislation so far.

Are they going to throw two logjams at them?

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
40. Someone really needs to spill the beans on Scarlet.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:45 PM
Jul 2019

I'm not for forced outings, but Lindsey really needs to come to grips with who he really is and, in the process, destroy is political career completely. Collateral damage? Exactly what does that mean, Scarlet? That goes both ways.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
51. That fits too...
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:09 PM
Jul 2019

as he has an affinity for clutching his pearls and getting the vapors.

I really have a hard time understanding gay rethuglicans. Particularly those who think they're securely closeted, yet their orientation is really common knowledge.

Nasruddin

(752 posts)
41. So what
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:52 PM
Jul 2019

signed Miles Davis

"Those of us in the Republican Party in the Senate need to shut out the House,” meaning move on with GOP agenda
(ie lurching after Mr Trump)

patphil

(6,164 posts)
42. Graham's statememts sound a lot like obstruction of justice to me.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:53 PM
Jul 2019

If he thinks there's going to repercussions because of Impeachment Hearings, wait until he sees what I think is going to happen if the Democrats take the White House and the Senate while keeping the House in 2020.
The Republicans have so much to answer for.

Patrick Phillips

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
43. Freeze out the House?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:54 PM
Jul 2019

How is that any different than Moscow Mitch’s graveyard for Democratic legislation? I say full speed ahead...

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
52. Can you threaten someone with something you are already doing or everyone knows you will do...
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:10 PM
Jul 2019

Tell Graham to go f*** himself.

brush

(53,764 posts)
53. Fuck Graham. Who does he think he's threatening. As if they're passing any bills now.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:15 PM
Jul 2019

Moscow Mitch just stopped four bills to protect our elections from Russian meddling.

Graham's threats ought to make House Dems even more determined to impeach that fat, orange load.

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