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MADEIRA BEACH, Fla. A McDonald's employee was fired after turning away paramedics Wednesday night. Anthony Quinn, a paramedic with Sun Star Inc., claimed in a Facebook review of the Madeira Beach McDonald's that he and his partner were denied service at the restaurant.
In his review, Quinn said that he went in to use the bathroom when the employee told him that the restaurant "doesn't accept officers in here." When Quinn told the employee he wasn't an officer, the employee said he wouldn't serve "anyone with a badge."
Later, Quinn says his partner went to order and the employee said he wouldn't serve "his kind."
Casper's the company that runs the McDonald's location, released the following statement.
"We are aware of the unfortunate incident that took place at one of our restaurants last night. We, like you, were upset and disappointed and took immediate action. The employee has been terminated. What occurred does not reflect the values of our brand, our franchise, or the love and admiration we have demonstrated consistently for our friends in law enforcement and first responders. We have reached out to offer our sincerest apology."
https://www.10news.com/news/national/mcdonalds-employee-fired-after-telling-paramedic-they-wouldnt-serve-his-kind
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I just cannot get hate of that sort...generalized toward every one based on the actions of a few.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)It doesn't matter that a black, immigrant, or cop may have committed some crime somewhere, some time. Prejudging other blacks, immigrants or cops on that basis is EVIL.
It doesn't even matter if the group targeted is statistically more like to be "bad". Prejudging individuals is evil.
Sure, if a zombie looking person is coming toward you muttering something about brains, perhaps you cross the street as a matter of self-preservation. That's different.
elocs
(22,566 posts)simply because they are Republicans?
Certainly, being a Republican is not a permanent condition like being Black, but
there are those prejudiced against people because of their religion and belief in a religion is not necessarily permanent.
Perhaps somebody could remake the classic movie "The Defiant Ones" with Tony Curtis and Sidney Poitier and instead of black and white escaped prisoners chained together have it be a Republican and a Democrat.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)elocs
(22,566 posts)Last edited Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:49 PM - Edit history (1)
Or do we justify our own personal prejudices while finding the prejudices of others evil?
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)Playing devil's advocate should not be taken too far.
We all rail against groups of people for certain group characteristics. Discussing group characteristics is not prejudice when it is supported by facts. Where assertions are made that are not facts, then it is just plain wrong to argue without facts.
Prejudice occurs when an INDIVIDUAL is pre-judged as 'bad' in some way exclusively for being member of a group. For example if Abel meets Baker and they chat and Baker says he is a {jew/muslim/christian} and Abel says "I don't talk to shit like you" and walks away, that is prejudice. Or Abel sees Charlie with a different skin color and crosses the road to avoid walking past, that is also prejudice.
Because it has been applied to an INDIVIDUAL.
Calling generic Republicans RepubliCons as I do because too many of them engage in a propagandistic con game against suckers (including lying) is not prejudice because it is not an individual. When some of us (me included) call christians sheep because they ignore facts that fly in the face of their belief, we are discussing a characteristic that is very common among them and even typical of many of them; that is not prejudice like it would be if we immediately labeled an individual person a sheep just based on the sole fact that they are a christian (some christians think deeply about their beliefs and are nuanced). When we call tRump a con (confidence trickster, con man, convict to-be-some-day), we are basing that on the facts of his career. That is also not prejudice.
elocs
(22,566 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
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trev
(1,480 posts)for that reason. I instead address my ire towards Right Wingers.
lpbk2713
(42,752 posts)Some are biased against authority figures based on their own personal
experience even though there might be thousands they never met.
they think stereotyping is wrong but think nothing of doing themselves - it is disturbing
Ilsa
(61,692 posts)or half-priced meal. It wasn't a mafioso-type protection; it was simply in gratitude for thoughtful police service.
lame54
(35,282 posts)Firestorm49
(4,031 posts)SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)who was a former LA County Sheriff deputy explain to me the reasoning behind the cops and donut shop thing. She told me that unlike other restaurants (at that time..this was the mid 90s) donut shops had the single person restrooms so it was preferred as an officer would be in there solo, could lock the door behind them, and could take off their gun belt without a chance of someone messing with it, or worse.
SWBTATTReg
(22,100 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,293 posts)I dated a woman who'd worked at a Winchells in Scottsdale. Their policy was that free coffee for cops equals decreased likelihood of robbery.
jayfish
(10,039 posts)Cops like donuts. They go to donut shops a lot.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)It has amazed me every time I go in there, that almost everyone does so - customers of all races, and that store is primarily frequented by lower income folks. Warms my heart to see that kind of thing.
Aristus
(66,310 posts)Gatorade is a recipe for diabetes and tooth decay.
The marketers who peddle it as a health drink should be smacked upside their heads.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)People drink all kinds of beverages, despite the drawbacks. Aint that right?
No one is forcing them to drink it. Goodness gracious, way to miss a point.
Aristus
(66,310 posts)Gatorade, Powerade, they're all terrible for you. No one is forcing them to drink it. At least not directly. They're being coerced by advertising into thinking these beverages healthy, and they're not. I see the ill effects of it every day in my clinic.
I suppose I shouldn't care if cops want to be obese and unhealthy. But as long as they're at least paying lip service to 'protecting and serving', I should be concerned about their health.
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BannonsLiver
(16,358 posts)Aristus
(66,310 posts)I just tell my patients to stay away from it entirely. The ones who do notice an improvement in their obesity and diabetes. The ones who don't will keep getting sent to the emergency room with diabetic ketoacidosis.
BannonsLiver
(16,358 posts)There are people who can have a Gatorade every once in a while without ending up in a coma.
EX500rider
(10,835 posts)Response to Tipperary (Reply #12)
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Polybius
(15,373 posts)How so? It's not even sweet.
Aristus
(66,310 posts)You're not the only person it's fooled.
The sweetness of sugar is countered by all of the acid in it. The combination of sugar and acid is the aformentioned recipe for tooth decay.
Polybius
(15,373 posts)What a crazy drink. The only good part of sugar is the wonderful taste. What's the point of a sugary drink that doesn't taste sweet? Mise well drink a Snapple instead, at least it's delicious.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)Polybius
(15,373 posts)I have seen it recently.
rockfordfile
(8,701 posts)Takket
(21,553 posts)And automatically hates on anyone with a badge? Probably not the brightest bulb. Good riddance.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Their uniforms and gear are in no way the same.
inwiththenew
(972 posts)Hopefully his idiotic stand was worth it.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Mariana
(14,854 posts)Do you think the EMS personnel would harm him?
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)jayfish
(10,039 posts)We play this shit wrong. We should be hoisting the Right on thier own petards.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)To refuse service to anyone they want to based on their conscience?
jayfish
(10,039 posts)that people who do (The Right) need to be shown what happens when you slide to the bottom of a slippery slope.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/05/02/688260025/new-trump-rule-protects-health-care-workers-who-refuse-care-for-religious-reason
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)brooklynite
(94,490 posts)jayfish
(10,039 posts)They are going to latch on to this like wild dogs (because the employee will, obviously, be a Leftist ) and need to be told that this is what happens when you allow employees in a public serving position to deny service to thier customers based on an objection of conscience. ...whether you agree with the employee or not. Based on the new rules, I'm perfectly fine with it.
onenote
(42,686 posts)jayfish
(10,039 posts)If he has a deeply held belief against serving people in a civil-service uniform then, oh well.
onenote
(42,686 posts)And if he has such a belief, find another job or start your own business. But if I was this guy's boss, I'd also have fired him in a nanosecond.
rownesheck
(2,343 posts)with police officers. I do absolutely HATE that blue line crap. They need to cut that shite out. It might go a long way in repairing some of the animosity toward them
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,358 posts)AKA the Devil Juice.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I especially got a kick out of a poster worrying about what police officers drink.
Amazing what is posted here sometimes.
pecosbob
(7,534 posts)The employee changed their justification for refusing service twice from 'officers', to 'anyone with a badge' to 'your kind'. "Your kind' is usually a giveaway...never once in my life have I heard this phrase used to describe police, only minorities.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Or his partner partner ... would be pertinent info as to what kind of prejudice was actually in play here.
Could be that at first the employee fronted with a different 'excuse' from the one he really 'meant'.
Again, my assessment depends on what sort of partner it was.
onenote
(42,686 posts)Bradical79
(4,490 posts)zackymilly
(2,375 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Girl Scouts ?
Dr. Strange
(25,919 posts)Faux pas
(14,657 posts)donny
Vinca
(50,258 posts)ripcord
(5,327 posts)Fired from McDonald's, where do you go from there?
EllieBC
(3,013 posts)and leftbook groups on FB. Some of them even advocate for police dogs being put down for no reaosn other than they are K-9s.
Not a damn one of them have an answer to, "Who should you call if you are the victim of a crime?' because they cannot think that far.
Hopefully this this person never needs a paramedic. Maybe his ACAB friends could save him after an accident or a medical emergency.