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neurochaos

(72 posts)
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 04:59 AM Aug 2019

With El Paso, Texas and Dayton, Ohio being a direct result...

… of Trump’s disgusting racist rhetoric the Democratic Party (especially leadership) had better come out by Monday and demand that Trump resigns and refuse to deal with him as long as he is in the White House. And then officially begin impeachment proceedings immediately.

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mucifer

(23,525 posts)
1. Do we know Dayton shooter was a right wing extremist? I don't see that info in
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 05:06 AM
Aug 2019

any of the news articles.

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True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
3. Clint Van Zandt
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 05:14 AM
Aug 2019

FBI profiler, said, “ They are radicalizing so fast they can not keep up.

Trump was in Cincinnati Thursday night spouting his hate filled rant.

Want to bet this guy was there?

mucifer

(23,525 posts)
6. I have looked at 5 different articles and don't see that info. In a few hours it will
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 05:19 AM
Aug 2019

probably be there. But, I don't see it anywhere. It just says he was a white male.

Response to mucifer (Reply #6)

mucifer

(23,525 posts)
8. I don't understand why you are angry at me. I am just waiting for the facts to come out.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 05:31 AM
Aug 2019

I am not pro gun.

neurochaos

(72 posts)
9. Lets say Dayton isn't a Trump supporter:
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 06:16 AM
Aug 2019

El Paso is more than enough for you to get on board with my point and what the Democratic leadership needs to do immediately. I think part of the problem on the left is that too many of us get caught up in the small stuff instead of pushing the bigger point.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
12. El Paso shooter asshole's link to WS has been established
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 06:37 AM
Aug 2019

No one is disputing that. But, until a similar link is established with the Dayton shooter asshole, no one should speculate, or, even worse, claim such speculations as fact.

It's the same as a RW site claiming a dark-complexion shooter MUST have al Qaeda links.

Chemisse

(30,807 posts)
15. Yes, I need another clue.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 07:34 AM
Aug 2019

People mass murder for bizarre reasons.

I don't think it's because he couldn't get in the door and considering the charged environment, out-of-control racism is at the top of the list of possibilities.

But next on the list is disgruntled ex-employee.

So yes, just a little more info is needed here.

mucifer

(23,525 posts)
16. white men have done this for work place disputes they also "did it for Bernie" However, Bernie
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:00 AM
Aug 2019

handled it very quickly with a clear "Not in my name" speech to his followers.

I haven't heard any "not in my name" speech from trump about El Paso.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
10. I have yet to find any info linking the Dayton asshole to White Nationalism / Supremacy
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 06:27 AM
Aug 2019

**It may very well be the case that he was indeed inspired by White Supremacy / White Nationalism.**

However, spreading disinformation at this stage helps no one.

Going out on a limb here, but I would guess that foreign adversaries engaged in spreading disinformation would exploit the two shootings by immediately blaming both on WS when only the El Paso shooting link to WS has been established, causing fear and loathing amongst US citizens.

We need facts more than speculation and hyperbole.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
14. A link may very well be established between Dayton asshole and WS by the end of the day
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 06:58 AM
Aug 2019

I just prefer facts over speculation.

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