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Behind the Aegis

(53,952 posts)
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 05:17 AM Aug 2019

Man writes anti-gay message on restaurant bill, forces it down female manager's shirt


A Florida man was arrested and charged with simple battery after writing an anti-gay remark on a restaurant bill, then forcing the receipt down a female manager’s shirt.

On July 27th, Frederic Sterry Smith, 62, and a female companion were finishing their meals at Milagro On 12 Latin Kitchen in St. Augustine, where the incident occurred.

When presented with the bill, Smith allegedly did not leave a tip and instead wrote, "If he wasn't gay." The waiter showed his manager the receipt, and she walked outside of the restaurant to confront Smith, Naples Daily News reports.

Smith admitted to writing the note, grabbed the receipt from her hand, ripped it up, and pulled open her collar to shove the check down her shirt. He also reportedly touched her breast while doing so.

According to the Naples Daily News, a coworker said that Smith told the manager that he would "[expletive] rip it up in her face" before forcing the check down her blouse.

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Man writes anti-gay message on restaurant bill, forces it down female manager's shirt (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Aug 2019 OP
Why no charge of assault? Laffy Kat Aug 2019 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author onenote Aug 2019 #2
Battery is a more serious charge than assault. onenote Aug 2019 #3
Oh, ok. Thanks for the correction. eom Laffy Kat Aug 2019 #4
The specific crimes vary by state (since the state defines the crimes within the state). Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #9
The manager should not have confronted the customer Opel_Justwax Aug 2019 #5
True Beringia Aug 2019 #6
True, but FoxNewsSucks Aug 2019 #8
You have to think of employee and customer safety first. Opel_Justwax Aug 2019 #10
Fuck this redneck throwback piece of shit. BlueStater Aug 2019 #7
And he is a pastor. nt tblue37 Aug 2019 #11
mystery of source of hate solved not_the_one Aug 2019 #12

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
1. Why no charge of assault?
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 06:41 AM
Aug 2019

Hell, why not charge with a hate crime on top of assault and battery? Seems like he got off lightly.

Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #1)

onenote

(42,700 posts)
3. Battery is a more serious charge than assault.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 07:36 AM
Aug 2019

and since the victim of his battery was not gay, I'm not sure how they could make a hate crime charge stick.

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
9. The specific crimes vary by state (since the state defines the crimes within the state).
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:11 PM
Aug 2019

In Ohio, as an example, the crime of battery does not exist - only assault.

But - as someone pointed out above, in the ordinary criminal scheme, battery is more serious than assault. Assault can also merge with battery (meaning you can only be charged with one). Battery (actually making the contact) is considered to be the completion of assault (the threat to make contact).

Opel_Justwax

(230 posts)
5. The manager should not have confronted the customer
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 08:57 AM
Aug 2019

She is lucky he didn't have a gun. When dealing with a person that shows hate it is best not to confront them at all. You never know what they are capable of.

Opel_Justwax

(230 posts)
10. You have to think of employee and customer safety first.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:14 PM
Aug 2019

I worked as a security guard thirty years ago and I learned when to confront and to let them walk away.
If they are disrupting the place of business then gently ease them out the door. If they yelled F you while walking out the door let then let them continue on to their car.
You are always thinking of safety first.

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