Lynchings, Church Bombings, Kidnapping, Rape, Beatings, - Racial Hatred Not Mental Health

[tulipsandroses]

All these atrocities were perpetrated in the civil rights era and before - Nothing happening now is new except for technology. The racists back then held meetings and distributed pamphlets. That's how they grew their base. They did not have the internet.

Now they have a conglomerate on the internet to distribute their message -
Now racial violence/white nationalist terrorism is a mental health issue?

Stop the fucking madness!

The republicans are already coming out with this talking point and its insulting.

[SamKnause]

1. Mental health was the first response from Abbott in Texas.

On Fox news today the response was video games are the cause.

[Trenzalore]

2. I would go along with the mental health angle if it meant they would fund mental health issues

They say we need to do more about mental health issues every time there is a shooting but I have yet to see a republican sponsored bill to improve mental health treatment in the United States.

They won't do anything about guns we could at least get help for people who need it. They won't do that either.

[spooky3]

3. The best response I've heard to this is

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The US has far more incidents like El Paso, per capita, than any other developed country. We also have fewer gun restrictions. Is there any evidence that Americans have poorer mental health than do people in UK, Australia, France, Norway, etc.?

[graeme_macquarrie]

5. Except for the fact that, that statistic is un-true

From January 2009 to December 2015 per capita, the U.S. ranked 11th in European countries and Canada behind countries such as France, Norway, Switzerland, Belgium, the Czech Republic.
Same period U.S., Canada and European countries in frequency of occurrence U.S. ranked 12th.

Mental illness is a significant factor. Do you believe sane humans commit mass murder?

[spooky3]

7. What is your definition of "sane"? If you use the legal

Definition, the answer is clearly “some sane humans commit mass murder.”

Many, many people with mental illness do NOT commit mass murder.

And, I noticed you included no link. Here is a link that might interest you:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/

“Americans are ten times more likely to be killed by guns than are people in other developed countries.”

Here is a recent DU post with 2019 data that could be verified:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212347625

[tulipsandroses]

8. Short answer to the question- Yes

Now, that question requires a more nuanced discussion - Everyone is not working with the same definition.

I work in mental health. The DSMV - frames my diagnoses. Not what the general public considers to be sane or insane.

[malaise]

6. +1,000

That simple

[Blue_true]

4. I was really to see a DU member talk about mental illness in relation to the El Paso shooter.

To some extent even well functioning people have some type of psychological issue. Myself am becoming increasingly reticent to be in situations that I don't have a good amount of control over while in public, out of the safety of my home.

What happened in El Paso and now Dayton is pure hatred, calculated deadly assaults on innocent people, and we have a president who is encouraging the hatred that led to the murders. This last paragraph is it, no fucking assigning that to mental illness.