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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 05:22 PM Aug 2019

Because we're not already cringing enough over Don & Ivanka, New York Magazine to the rescue.



She’s always “the same consistent friend,” says Maggie Cordish, a friend and former adviser. “She hopped on a train to Baltimore when I had a family issue. She was there four hours later.” She was the protector of her brothers, and they remain close to this day. She wasn’t a tomboy back then, but she was a girl’s girl — she was into loyalty, she had her friends’ backs, she didn’t try to steal their boyfriends even if she could. The issue, others say, was she thought only about … herself. That’s the No. 1 thing friends from her past say about her: She isn’t a “mean person” or a “bad person” but is simply afflicted with the same disease of narcissism as her father. She is the movie projector and the screen.

But not when her father was involved. She operated in fear around him, says a friend. Sometimes she would tell a taxi to drive around the block if she saw him getting out of a car in front of her. When Ivanka would receive a call with his number on the caller ID, she’d become very anxious. She’d have a momentary panic about what he was going to say about her life and whether she was about to be blindsided by his disapproval. “I think she knew,” the friend says, “and at times resented, that she was a prisoner to the condition of seeking his approval at all times.” When they’d talk, “she was very careful. It was like listening to a person talking to her boss.”

But in her father’s presence, Ivanka never talked back or even rolled her eyes. Friends I spoke with have not seen them fight. She played the dutiful daughter on flights to Mar-a-Lago with her friends when her father would do cringey things like put a VHS tape of his recent media clips on the TV or ask them which female stars they considered hot. Among the members of New York society in the ’90s and early aughts, he was seen as a credit clown, a joke, but never to Ivanka. His chauvinism frustrated her, however, and she was repelled by the way he talked about women’s bodies — who was fat, who was not. In 2003, when Paris Hilton’s sex tape was leaked on the internet, Donald wouldn’t stop talking about it, saying, “Paris is laughing all the way to the bank, she’s got the last laugh, she’s marvelous.” Ivanka could not believe her father was not only idolizing an airhead heiress caught blowing a guy on a night-vision video but encouraging her to follow Paris’s lead. (Speaking from the White House, Grisham says, “This is untrue and is disgusting.”)

“The thing with Paris hurt Ivanka a lot,” says a friend. “He was heartbreaking to her at times.” But as with so much of her father’s behavior, she buried her feelings and moved on. She told herself that the story of her father’s attitude toward women was, simply, complicated, according to friends. Donald hired many women at the Trump Organization, she knew, and these women weren’t universally pretty; he wanted to employ women with traditionally masculine attitudes and almost enjoyed feeling discomfited by them, having them boss him around. Her father may have had issues with women, she felt, but he did not meet the textbook definition of a misogynist — a belief she seems to hold to the present day.

https://www.thecut.com/2019/08/what-will-ivanka-trump-do-after-she-leaves-the-white-house.html
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Because we're not already cringing enough over Don & Ivanka, New York Magazine to the rescue. (Original Post) Miles Archer Aug 2019 OP
Cry me a river... Freedomofspeech Aug 2019 #1
When your father wants to fuck you, that's disconcerting donkeypoofed Aug 2019 #2
I love this description: The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #3
I read the article at the link. madaboutharry Aug 2019 #4
That entire rotten family would probably drive any good therapist to insanity. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2019 #5
After reading the article I find her boring ... CatMor Aug 2019 #6
I doubt it was easy having him for a father Skittles Aug 2019 #7
Awwww... 2naSalit Aug 2019 #8

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
2. When your father wants to fuck you, that's disconcerting
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 05:30 PM
Aug 2019

He wants her, bad. That has GOT to give her the heebie-jeebies. He is disgusting. No wonder she's a mess.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
3. I love this description:
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 05:54 PM
Aug 2019

"...this summer Ivanka transformed into someone entirely alien and new. She’s a frum Donatella Versace, her platinum hair parted severely down the middle, clad in increasingly conservative floor-length dresses, with an uncanny-valley beauty that’s the inverse of her father’s slack meat sack, and speaking in the ever-huskier whisper of a phone-sex operator who went to boarding school."

and

"There she was, trying to drop some knowledge about women and the global economy, when French cameras caught her being dissed by IMF chief Christine Lagarde and leaders of the Western world’s most important countries, all the while flapping her hands around like a baby seal with its flippers."

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
6. After reading the article I find her boring ...
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 06:12 PM
Aug 2019

the only interesting trump is Don Jr's ex-wife. I read an article a while back and she was a wild child.

Skittles

(153,149 posts)
7. I doubt it was easy having him for a father
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 06:26 PM
Aug 2019

but she could be free of him now but is choosing instead to enable his disgusting behavior

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