Holy effing shit...I think I have the diagnosis:

[PCIntern]

(Yes, I know. I don't care what you think about television diagnosis)

From Wiki:

Tardive dyskinesia is characterized by repetitive, involuntary movements. Some examples of these types of involuntary movements include:[6]

Grimacing
Tongue movements
Lip smacking
Lip puckering
Pursing of the lips
Excessive eye blinking

Rapid, involuntary movements of the limbs, torso, and fingers may also occur.[7] In some cases, an individual's legs can be so affected that walking becomes difficult or impossible.[8] These symptoms are the opposite of patients who are diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. Parkinson's patients have difficulty moving, whereas tardive dyskinesia patients have difficulty not moving.[9]

Respiratory irregularity, such as grunting and difficulty breathing, is another symptom associated with tardive dyskinesia, although studies have shown that the prevalence rate is relatively low.[10]

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I've only been doing this for 42 years...I saw him this weekend and it came to me in a flash. It accounts for almost everything including the inability to walk any distances and problems with steps.

[Phoenix61]

1. Check out Lewy Body Dementia.

It’s a cruel cross between Parkinson’s type symptoms and dementia.

[PCIntern]

3. I was considering that but the facial symptoms are almost

unmistakable including the new rolilng tongue,lip-smacking behavior.

[Ms. Toad]

24. Apparenty not new.

From 2016

[procon]

28. My first impression was Jabba the Hutt.

Still makes my skin crawl. Imagine that he still thinks he's attractive to women. Ugh... No one has enough money to pay me...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Isn't that usually a side-effect of some drugs?

Like Thorazine and Haldol?

[PCIntern]

4. yep can be.

[dhol82]

6. Is there any other reason for it other than medication side effects?

Did not think it had an organic genesis.

[Mme. Defarge]

7. Anti-psychotic meds.

Yikes!

[Haggis for Breakfast]

37. And the side effects of long-term usage become irreversible.

[H2O Man]

25. Yes.

[susanr516]

48. One of the side effects of antipsychotic medication

Although it's rare with the newer medications, like Risperidone.

[Stargazer09]

5. Maybe dementia?

I keep seeing Frontotemporal Dementia being discussed.

[PCIntern]

8. Quite possibly but I'm referring to his

physical ills

[Stargazer09]

13. Oh, I missed that

It’s probably a cocktail of dementia, drug use, and that new condition I never heard of before tonight.

No matter what, he’s not fit to be president.

[onethatcares]

10. I need to thank you guys

I get more information and pointers to find information out of this site than I deserve. It's great being here.

On the other hand, I'm willing to wager the site that shall not be named never has in depth analysis of that guys health problems.

I can just imagine them spelling, "Dyskinesia"..

[Aristus]

11. I don't see any distinctive Tardive dyskenesia symptoms in Trump.

Granted, I wasn't looking for them before. But they tend to have an unmistakable clinical presentation, and I just don't see it.

He has problems enough, no doubt. But I don't think TD is one of them.

[PCIntern]

15. People usually only notice advanced cases

His is moderate but advancing imo

[Aristus]

16. I'll look for it.

[Maru Kitteh]

47. Really? I'm intrigued. I'll admit I haven't been looking for TD, but I am

familiar with it. What have you noticed?

[nolabear]

20. Me either, and I treated several people with it from antipsychotics.

Doesn’t fit at all. I actually looked on YouTube for videos but decided not to share them. I still feel protective. 🙂

[tavernier]

21. I agree.

All the patients I took care of who had TD had one thing in common and that was the tongue spasms. I didn’t see that with him.

[PCIntern]

26. See the video today?

Early to moderate TD tongue repetitive movements

[cwydro]

31. Yeah, I also thought it was usually a side effect of some serious drugs.

I’ve seen it before, and the mouth movements were almost always more pronounced.

He’s certainly fucked up in some way.

[BigmanPigman]

12. That behavior is common among reptiles

and swamp creatures.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/entertainment/2016/05/26/fly-on-donald-trump-hair-pkg-moos-erin.cnn

[Haggis for Breakfast]

38. BP, you're killing me here !!

[MFM008]

14. But hes gonna live

For 200 more years....remember....

[world wide wally]

18. Also common among swamp creatures

[area51]

17. Twitter user Tom Joseph has an interesting feed; he believes Donnie has frontotemporal dementia.

Tom Joseph's Twitter feed.

[Nay]

19. This is EXACTLY what I thought when I saw him pushing his tongue against his lips

and teeth in that latest ghastly video. TD, from being on1st or 2nd generation anti-psychotics or other meds.

This creature is so far past "ill" it's frightening, never mind all the other stuff. I suspect he's always been a big asshole, and personality disorders are certainly in the mix. Jesus.

[elocs]

22. It's a risky business for laypeople to try diagnose somebody from afar

based upon symptoms they find on the internet. But perhaps you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[PCIntern]

23. Funny. I'm not a lay person

I’m a clinician with 42 years of practice and was a clinical instructor in an Ivy League University Hospital. Will that suffice?

[elocs]

33. So you have his tests and medical records and everything ?

You are good at patting yourself on the back though.
You should know better if you cared.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

39. I think that anyone who has been treating patients for 42 years,

probably knows more than enough to make an educated statement.

You, on the other hand, are a little tooooo full of yourself.

[Duppers]

46. Totally agree.

Most folks here know and respect PCIntern's opinions.

[3catwoman3]

45. This nurse practitioner with 43 years in the trenches...

...finds your credentials sufficiently persuasive.

And, the current push for telemedicine is going to throw that whole “must diagnose face-to-face” thing right out the window.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

49. If I may ask you a question, Ma'am . . .

I'm a veteran, and the VA is beginning to get busy with tele-med, too. Because I live so far away from the nearest VAMC (hospital), I am being "coached" by many of my MDs to take advantage of tele-med when it becomes viable.

But, I am concerned about the LACK of the "face-to-face" examination. It seems that there is so much potential for things to be overlooked or missed. That said, however, I can certainly see the attraction for it.

In your opinion, what do you see in the push to "tele-med" patients ? Do you think it is the wisest use of valuable resources ? Or like me, do you fear that patients will be under-examined and that conditions may go undiagnosed ?

[Ilsa]

27. Some diagnoses are based on subjective observation.

Not all are based on psychometric testing, interviews, or laboratory testing.

[elocs]

34. A fancy way of saying speculation. nt

[Haggis for Breakfast]

40. No.

I don't know what field of work you've been in, but after four decades of working in a profession - whatever it is - that person is in good position to be able to recognize the effects of what they have spent years seeing, documenting and validating.

Just saying.

[snowybirdie]

29. I was almost scared

for him today. Toward the end, he had more and more trouble with facial movements and looked a bit panicky. That's when he improvised and called it Toledo. Face got redder too. Something was not right

[nini]

30. Is it terminal?

[Azathoth]

32. Probably a side effect of whatever cocktail they have him on for his psych/dementia issues nt

[Sancho]

35. Are the dilated pupils consistent with TD or a different issue?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212351436#top

[Haggis for Breakfast]

41. There are so many medications that can alter/dilate/constrict the pupils.

[Stuart G]

36. I apologize for going off the topic. but,I really thought you were an "Intern"

If you ..."doing this for 42 years.." You ain't no intern. I am sorry for getting everything wrong. But,,it is not the first time I got everything wrong, and it won't be the last....Stuart G

[PCIntern]

43. No problem!

I’ve been here since 2004.

PC Intern was my first howto computer book. I was looking for a screen name and the book was lying there. The rest is history.

[Ilsa]

44. That's funny.

I picked mine because it was the shortest name I could think of that I liked at that time.

[KentuckyWoman]

42. No

He's a lazy old fat guy with a crappy diet and too many prescriptions. His lifestyle of ease is coming home to roost.