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MR EDDIE GLAUDE - the truth will set you (Original Post) cilla4progress Aug 2019 OP
Everyone should watch - saw it live yesterday. DURHAM D Aug 2019 #1
Sent it to my siblings malaise Aug 2019 #3
Same here.... Pachamama Aug 2019 #5
I saw it yesterday, too. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2019 #7
W..O..W..! Thunderbeast Aug 2019 #2
i was hoping this would make it to twitter. mopinko Aug 2019 #4
To get this historical perspective he refers to, cilla4progress Aug 2019 #6
+1000 The_jackalope Aug 2019 #12
Our nation was born from white violence. Lonestarblue Aug 2019 #13
Straight-out truth democrank Aug 2019 #8
I watched it in real time and it was stunning. What a brilliant man. Bookmarking. Hekate Aug 2019 #9
So well said, cilla4progress Aug 2019 #11
And let us not forget... llmart Aug 2019 #14
Hekate, if your memory is jogged, volstork Aug 2019 #16
K&R... spanone Aug 2019 #10
Powerful. Necessary. volstork Aug 2019 #15

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
1. Everyone should watch - saw it live yesterday.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 11:41 AM
Aug 2019

He took us to church.


I do have a question. Has he apologized for voting for Jill Stein? I believe he said something like the country could survive Trump. I can forgive him that if he has acknowledged it was a mistake.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
5. Same here....
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 12:05 PM
Aug 2019


It was one of those moments where you had someone stating something so clearly and accurately.

Thunderbeast

(3,406 posts)
2. W..O..W..!
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 11:56 AM
Aug 2019

Nail...meet the hammer.

When I was a 12 year old white kid, my family marched to protest the Mississippi murders.

When LBJ signed the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Act, I thought we had put bigotry behind us.

When I did a Social Work field placement in Alabama in 1974, I witnessed great progress, but no skating rink would let me bring a bus load of black kids for an afternoon of fun.

When Obama took the oath of office, I thought we had put bigotry behind us, or as Grover Norquist would have put it, made it small enough to drown in a bathtub.

Instead, his Presidency re-ignited racism and nativism and made it safe to be a bigot in the open. Trump capitalized on that to win the highest office, and deliver huge advantages to the plutocrats.

Sadly, Mr. Glaude has it right. If we don't confront this rift as a nation, and deliver on the founding principals (not the practices) we will continue to see the predictable and regular spectacle of dead bodies in our stores, in our theaters, and in our public square.

mopinko

(70,083 posts)
4. i was hoping this would make it to twitter.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 12:02 PM
Aug 2019

it did get posted on the deadline whitehouse twitter, but i was hoping it would get set loose.

that whole show was a kick in the heart, but this here. dang.

cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
6. To get this historical perspective he refers to,
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 12:18 PM
Aug 2019

we've been watching Ken Burns' The West, aired on PBS in 1996.

Oh my god.. It's one fucking attack after another on Native Americans, African Americans, Chinese and Mexican people living and working there (as you know, much of the west /southwest was Spanish /Mexican land before we invaded it and took it over). Women and laborers, also.

So much blood on our hands. Our history is, essentially, blood and treasure. It was, I suppose, inevitable we would come to this moment.

It's one of the things I always took issue with Obama on: American "exceptionalism." Ours is a bloody, cruel, murderous history. Cynthia Alksne on twitter yesterday said for the 1st time she can see how Germany fell to Hitler, and that it could happen here. I don't know - maybe it's my active imagination - but, I've seen this for years.

I believe we are living our karma now.

Have said for a long time we need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission here, like Tutu and Mandela held in S. Africa, to end apartheid.

Lonestarblue

(9,977 posts)
13. Our nation was born from white violence.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 02:24 PM
Aug 2019

It wasn’t just slavery, it was the determination early on that white people had the right to take what they wanted by any means necessary, including murdering thousands of Native Americans. And whenever black Americans were successful, as in places like Tulsa, white people made up lies and murdered them, burning their success into ashes.

Professor Glaude’s message is powerful—and it will be ignored, or most likely never even heard, by the people who most need to hear it. Even if they heard his message, Trump’s minions would dismiss it as so much liberal carping and go back to defending everything Trump says or does.

If you truly believe in equality for all, there is nothing to fear in the loss of a white majority. Skin color is immaterial to anything important, like moral character, intelligence, honesty, and consideration for other people—traits sadly lacking in most of today’s Republicans.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
9. I watched it in real time and it was stunning. What a brilliant man. Bookmarking.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 12:53 PM
Aug 2019

Trying to remember the book I read 20+ years ago in grad school. The author was rather unsettling in the subject of wearing "innocence" like a mantle, and of projecting it onto certain categories of other people, and how this blinds a society or an individual to what really is going on.

Parts of it have lodged in my mind all these years. It may have been Roland Barthes. I wish I knew where I put that one box of books when I moved two years ago.

In any case, Dr. Glaude's passionate outpouring yesterday was the first time I have ever seen that psychological/philosophical/political premise expounded in the public sphere and so brilliantly articulated. It should be required viewing across America.

And maybe someday the white people of this country can be freed from our whiteness.


llmart

(15,536 posts)
14. And let us not forget...
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 02:26 PM
Aug 2019

which side of the aisle in Congress, when we see them all seated there for the State of the Union address, is almost 100% white and which side is more diverse. This is especially true after the midterms.

We know that Democrats are on the right side of this issue and the GOP is on the wrong side. This is why I'm a lifelong Democrat and will be 'til my dying day.

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