I wonder if he was Black

[brettdale]

Would he had of been allowed into the store.

Link to tweet

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[madaboutharry]

1. That person has serious issues.

Walking around with a gun like that is bullshit.

[Blue_true]

8. He may think that it is a deterent. I think it makes him victim #1. nt

[sir pball]

2. From a purely legal standpoint,

You could be the one in trouble for some kind of malicious harassment BS or something.

It's the same argument (rightfully) used against fragile Whites calling 911 on Blacks doing legal things like grilling or sitting on their porches.

Mind you, I'm not making a moral case, but as Dickens said, "the law is an ass - an idiot."

[uponit7771]

5. N... no ... just ... fuck no.

PoC aren't designed to kill massive amounts of humans like that device of war the person is carrying into that retail place.

PoC haven't been used to kill massive amount of Americans recently either like that device of war the person is carrying into that retail space.

The law states anyone doing anything threatening and its pretty damn threatening walking a mass killing war weapon into a retail space like a jerk.

There's no room for that

[sir pball]

6. I said I wasn't making any kind of moral judgement, whatsoever. Just a legal thing.

But the ass of a law says if it's a place where open carry of rifles is legal (which is completely ludicrous and irrational), then calling 911 on someone doing it is at best going to accomplish absolutely nothing, and at worst, since the cops in places where this happens tend to love, coddle and support the incompetent insecure trigger happy nutjobs carrying the guns, going to end with the caller themselves in trouble for filing a false report or some crap.

It's what SHOULD be happening to people who call 911 on PoC but seems to never come to fruition.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

12. such a call would be reasonable and justified

There have been more mass shootings than days this year

By Jason Silverstein
Updated on: August 5, 2019

The amount of mass shootings across the U.S. so far in 2019 has outpaced the number of days this year, according to a gun violence research group. This puts 2019 on pace to be the first year since 2016 with an average of more than one mass shooting a day.

As of Aug. 5, which was the 217th day of the year, there have been 255 mass shootings in the U.S., according to data from the nonprofit Gun Violence Archive (GVA), which tracks every mass shooting in the country. The GVA defines a mass shooting as any incident in which at least four people were shot, excluding the shooter.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mass-shootings-2019-more-mass-shootings-than-days-so-far-this-year/

Anyone paying any attention to the news at all, would see that asshole as a potential mass shooting in the making. It is not unreasonable to call the cops before the shooting starts.

[sir pball]

17. You're welcome to try

Probably won't get an officer out for someone legally openly carrying a rifle though, unless you say they're actively brandishing it and not just toting it like a security binky. But that can end pretty badly all around.

[FBaggins]

3. This is the 2A version...

... of those nuts who go around taping police officers just hoping for a confrontation so they can “educate” them on how they’re violating his rights.

IOW... they might theoretically be acting within the law, but they’re still being as ass. I recently saw a combo of the two. Two guys in tactical gear and assault-type rifles walked into a police station with masks on to video how the cops were ignoring their rights.

They were lucky to survive.

In this case the coffee shop would be entirely within their rights to kick them out.

[uponit7771]

4. THIS !!!

[Blue_true]

7. So if I am a crazed shooter.

So the guy is in a line waiting to get a drink with an AK strapped to him. He will likely stand in lines waiting for food later. He does not have eyes in the back of his head. If I was a crazed shooter who saw him first, he would be my first victim. As harsh as that sounds, it is a reality.

What works well is not having those types of guns on our streets. NOTHING else works as well.

[brush]

14. What's scary is this guy might become the shooter.Who knows what could set him...

off as we all know white dudes are the shooters 95% of the time.

I'd turn around and walk out of that store.

[uponit7771]

24. +1, just decided to go nuts in line

[sir pball]

18. It's an utterly useless way to carry a rifle

It's fine for toting it from point A to point B; if this numbnut fancies himself a "sheepdog", "ever vigilant" to "protect the herd" though, he should be carrying it in front, both hands on it ready to bring it up to fire at a moment's notice...but walking around like this would be a real good way to get every cop in sight to instantly unload on you:

[PandoraAwakened]

23. He's white; cops not likely to bother him

Regarding your last statement about this being a good way to get cops to unload on you---it actually depends on where this occurs. NYC or Chicago? Yes, cops are going to take him down. Where I live (open-carry state of Arizona), if the man was black or brown, yes, cops are going to be all over him like flies on shit, open-carry be damned. But this white guy? Hell no. Cops here are more likely to give him a high-five and buy his coffee for him. And that's the sad truth of the matter.

[sir pball]

29. I meant the way he's carrying the rifle

Slung over his back like that, it's something that you're absolutely right won't get a second glance in Arizona or Texas...but it's also a less than useless way of carrying a rifle if you think you might actually need it on a moment's notice. It would actually be a very good way to sneak up behind him and yank him down, cut the strap if you have a knife, and now you have a rifle and he's on the ground.

From my experience hunting, if you're in an environment where you actually need the weapon on a moment's notice (which these morons think a coffee shop is), you carry it like the soldiers pictured in my last post - which is obviously a much more threatening posture, one that would likely get you swarmed with cops even in the gun-friendliest place. It's the equivalent of walking around with a handgun out of the holster, carrying it in a ready-to-use manner.

ETA - having an AR slung across your back is idiotic, unnecessary, provocative, and unsettling, but it's also so useless all I can do is laugh at it. Carrying an AR at "patrol ready" (as my ex-Marine BFF calls it) is brandishing a weapon and is absolutely immediately threatening.

[PandoraAwakened]

30. Got it, understood.

So, my question is this: A young white man in a Magat hat "stood guard" at an anti-Trump rally in downtown Phoenix holding his assault rifle in front of him, not on his back. Several people complained to police officers also standing in the vicinity and in every instance the response was the same: Arizona is an open carry state and until such time as he might actually "threaten" someone, he was within his supposed 2nd Amendment rights. Is it possible that even the front-hold stance is not considered a threat as long as the person is white?

[sir pball]

31. I was not aware of that situation.

It does seem that "patrol ready" is acceptable.

It should not be, IMO.

[Blue_true]

32. I think the point that was being made is a Black person or a Brown person,

or an Asian person would not go unchallenged by police while holding an assault weapon in the ready position while facing a peaceful but opposite opinion crowd.

He WAS threatening people that were in the protest by letting them know they had boundaries that he may enforce with his weapon.

[Skittles]

9. people who need a gun to get coffee

are exactly the kind of people who should NOT HAVE GUNS

[FM123]

27. Exactly!

[912gdm]

10. the only thing I am sure of

is that he is hung like a gnat

[mr_lebowski]

11. I promise you I'd walk up behind him and cough-speak "small penis" in a really obvious way ...

Now, if he were much bigger than this guy, I probably wouldn't, but ... this dude?

I absolutely would.

A big dude I'd just give as many dirty looks as I possibly could. Maybe blurt out a 'Really??' and shake my head.

[Grokenstein]

13. Aw, come on! How else is he supposed to intimidate everybody?

[Stonepounder]

15. If I see a person exercising his/her 'open carry' right

I immediately exercise my right, as stated in the Preamble to the Constitution, to 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' and leave. If I am shopping or checking out, I leave. If I am in a restaurant, I leave. Etc. I don't allow guns of any sort in my home and my kids know it.

It is that simple. It won't stop me from getting killed by some asshole who wishes his dick was bigger, but it will announce my right to NOT carry a gun!

[TheBlackAdder]

16. It's only a matter of time before someone shivs that guy and becomes the new owner of an AR-15.

[NCLefty]

19. We had a bunch of these "open carry" types show up at our local walking trail.

To show they were normal or something. I think they just scared the hell out of the walkers/runners.

[pansypoo53219]

20. ammosexual blankie. he needs his security penis.

[LisaL]

21. If this is an "open carry state" what exactly does she expect cops are going to do?

[uponit7771]

25. Show up after being told there's a person of unknown mental state with a mass kill weapon on them an

.. unknown amounts of ammo

[Celerity]

22. It is some asshole in Texas from 6 years ago who went to multiple Starbucks to provoke

http://www.floppingaces.net/2013/09/24/coffee-ccw-and-shopping-malls/

[lsewpershad]

26. Carries his prick

behind his back.

[Rene]

28. position it down the front of your pants

where it actually belongs.