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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSerious question: You walk in a business and see this -- Do you 1. Leave 2. Feel Safer 3. Don't Care
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Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)So nah if legal for him.
GeorgeGist
(25,317 posts)Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)If legally carrying.
Demovictory9
(32,444 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,057 posts)Businesses are generally free to ban guns. The more of us who refuse to patronize businesses who allow guns, the more businesses will ban them.
Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,181 posts).
Like armored car guards, that display weapon is probably empty.
He's hoping that someone tries to take it, so he's justified in using his concealed weapon to kill them.
Even though he knows that gun is a bait weapon, he'll probably get off.
.
And you should call 911 and say someone is carrying an assault weapon. It should really not be up to private citizens to judge whether that person is peaceful or intends to massacre everyone. Let the cops figure that out.
pandr32
(11,574 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,697 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)if he's a good guy or a bad guy?
struggle4progress
(118,270 posts)Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)but I suspect the cops would yell at me because that guy has a lefgal right to be intimidating. Still, NO SALE for the business whose items I abandoned in Aisle 4 because I will not return to the store to resume shopping.
trueblue2007
(17,202 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)TheRealNorth
(9,474 posts)Anyone who feels the need to carry an assault rifle to go get a espresso is not right in the head.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Since the legislators in DC won't do anything, we're on our own.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,401 posts)Good guy with a gun arguement is laughable.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Seems obvious to me.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,401 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,401 posts)I was an armorer in the USMC 71-77 - know a bit about guns.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)In a War Zone you are supposed to be prepared to do battle with an enemy. In a Walmart customers aren't supposed to be ready to do battle with weapons against an unknown enemy. It isn't about Rambo, it is about a faster response in subduing a perpetrator to save more lives. Statistics for what? Statistics don't save lives; a faster response against an armed perpetrator by armed citizens might reduce the carnage.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,401 posts)had to be some concealed carriers amongst one of them, hell, amongst the 200+ just this year.... I dont have the particulars on each one but I'm pretty sure not ONE instance of armed response by a "good guy or gal"..... the good guy theory is NRA BULLSHIT at best.
Last response ever to u democratisphere.... buhbye.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)qazplm135
(7,447 posts)I'd bunker down. Don't leave the house. Work from home. Order your food in.
It's just too dangerous out there!!
ooky
(8,921 posts)"I'm a moron".
Then I ignore him and get whatever I came for.
LonePirate
(13,414 posts)KatyMan
(4,189 posts)Dave in VA
(2,037 posts)I would leave the store, but on my way out I would just say, "Excuse me, but is it really that small?"
Doodley
(9,078 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)The Wild West should be history not a real life sociology experiment with my family and I as forced laboratory subjects.
CrispyQ
(36,445 posts)That's exactly what they want to go back to. Not the 1950s, where even then there were some restrictions on white men's behavior, but the wild west, where white men could pretty much do whatever the hell they wanted to whomever they wanted, with little repercussion.
As for the OP, I would leave. And if I were in a grocery store with a cart full of perishables, I would leave. On my way out I MIGHT tell someone in management where my cart is & why I'm leaving, unless the kook with the gun was close to the exit, in which case I'd just leave.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)johnp3907
(3,730 posts)Then call 911. Hassle the hell out of these twits, and if one or two of them get gunned down by trigger happy cops so be it.
sarisataka
(18,560 posts)Just unfortunate collateral damage?
Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)John Crawford III Case: Feds Announce No Charges for Officer in Fatal 2014 Shooting
July 12, 2017, 9:40 AM EDT / Updated July 12, 2017, 9:40 AM EDT / Source: Associated Press
CINCINNATI Federal authorities announced on Tuesday they have ended their investigation of the fatal police shooting of a black man in a Walmart store, concluding there wasn't enough evidence to charge the white officer who killed him.
The officer shot John Crawford III on Aug. 5, 2014, after police responded to an emergency call about someone waving a rifle in a store in Beavercreek, a Dayton suburb. Police said Crawford, who was 22, didn't obey commands to drop what they learned later was an air rifle he was carrying from a store shelf.
More>>>>>>
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/john-crawford-iii-case-feds-announce-no-charges-officer-fatal-n782091
But if I thought someone was a danger to others, I would in good conscience have to alert authorities. I would feel equally guilty if something bad happened and I had not alerted them.
sarisataka
(18,560 posts)I would never discourage anyone from reporting it and truthfully telling what they have observed.
Yet I am seeing posters stating they would falsely report what the person was doing, as happened in Mr. Crawford's case. The police had been told he was pointing a gun at people and threatening them. Video showed that was false. Lying about what actions the person with the (apparent) gun coupled with blasé attitudes on if the police end up shooting someone is a recipe for more deaths of innocents, such as the case of Mr. Crawford.
Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)tragically led to his death.
However, I do think an individual walking around, or in a store with an assault rifle slung over their shoulder is a threat. They are threatening to me and I do not know what their intent might be. So, as I said, I'd rather err on the side of caution, than witness a tragedy. I would not fabricate, I would merely state the facts. "An individual is walking around with an assault weapon". If law enforcement doesn't want to do something about that, then so be it. If anything happens, my conscience is clear.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)aikoaiko
(34,165 posts)Really, I would notice it as I do with other open carriers (usually holstered pistols), but I wouldn't care otherwise.
I don't think any mass shooter pretended to be just a casual open carrier before opening fire.
Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)So what's his tipping point? How trigger happy is he? If the clerk short changes him will that set him off? Or if another customer says something to him, instead of throwing a punch he pulls the trigger? Too many variables for me.
aikoaiko
(34,165 posts)And by concealed carry, I mean both legally and illegally.
Most Open Carriers are just doing it make a point that they can and are not dangerous. Its a civil protest of sorts.
Both pro-gun and anti-gun folks generally don't like it and I've seen it less over the last 2-3 years.
I don't discount you for your feelings and thoughts about Open Carry. I get it.
Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)LonePirate
(13,414 posts)zackymilly
(2,375 posts)But I sure wouldn't cut in front of him in line!
AJT
(5,240 posts)the only thing this weapon is for is mass killing.
Ask the business why they allow assault weapons in their store, and leave.
FakeNoose
(32,617 posts)If there are small children around, I'd say in a loud voice "Oh my God!" and leave immediately.
If there are no children present, I'd say in a loud voice "Holy fucking shit!" and leave immediately.
Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,381 posts)and tell the person I am leaving and won't ever be back until the business posts no guns allowed in the store.
Then leave.
Peanut dick can go get coffee somewhere else.
marybourg
(12,607 posts)Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I would do exactly the same thing. I hate guns and the people who fetishize them.
I am so glad I live in a state where this kind of bullshit is illegal. Who the fuck needs an assault weapon to go get a cup of coffee? You might as well have a sign on your back saying you have a tiny dick.
llmart
(15,536 posts)maybe I'd leave first in case this whackjob tries to do something. Then I'd call the manager from my cell and tell him why I left.
randr
(12,409 posts)You ask for the assailant to be removed or you will never shop there again.
Other option is to call 911 and report a threat.
Srkdqltr
(6,265 posts)Lookie, lookie, what I got.
Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)Too much of a chicken shit to actually say it to our faces.
ooky
(8,921 posts)Cousin Dupree
(1,866 posts)DFW
(54,330 posts)In Europe, where I live now, no one but the military has a weapon like that. They have one purpose only: killing people. We have no desire to be around a civilian casually walking around with a weapon like that.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)If the westerns have taught me anything, it's that stores can require customers to check their weapons. They just need to hire an attendant to hang all assault riffles on a coat rack until the customer is ready to leave.
sarisataka
(18,560 posts)Since this circulated 5-6 years ago, don't really care. It would be much easier for me to use the weapon against him than him to get it into a shooting position the way he is carrying it.
Also my prejudicial opinion of him is the same, just an asshole looking to get a reaction from people.
Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)it's still relevant.
sarisataka
(18,560 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)ScratchCat
(1,980 posts)Either "demonstrate" to him how easy it would be for someone to take that from him or simply eject his magazine and then have a nice conversation with him.
Turbineguy
(37,312 posts)This is America and ultimately it comes down to money.
lark
(23,083 posts)If the gun was being touched, I'd leave then I'd call the police and say a person with open carry is threatening us. I live in No. FL. and thankfully haven't seen this, but I also don't go to Walmart or the more redneck areas of town.
HAB911
(8,873 posts)I don't trust morons behind the wheel of 2 ton automobile, why trust one that obviously has mental problems
Polybius
(15,367 posts)You: I saw a man with a gun.
Them: And?
Nothing much they can do if it's legal there.
HAB911
(8,873 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)Bet they would show up in a heartbeat
Kid Berwyn
(14,858 posts)White guys with semiautomatic assault rifles not so much.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)I was responding to the poster that suggested a call to 911 would not get a police response.
Im saying that in an open carry state, just tell the 911 operator its a black man with the rifle and Im betting the response would be different
Kid Berwyn
(14,858 posts)I wanted to emphasize how differently police treat reports of armed subjects depending on skin tone.
An African American man was shot dead in a Detroit suburb recently. He had pulled his gun on a police dog sent to track down a suspicious man outside a banquet hall. He was there for his daughters baby shower. Apparently frightened by the attacking dog, he ran and is alleged to have shot and killed the animal. Then the police shot the man dead. Much, if not most, of the local public outcry was for the K9.
The departmental investigation cleared the police.
https://amp.freep.com/amp/2130983002
Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)uponit7771
(90,329 posts)HAB911
(8,873 posts)That's a good idea but they might get you for a false report or something
maybe just say he was making everyone uncomfortable and you feared for your life
sarisataka
(18,560 posts)And end up with a dead black man who was carrying a cell phone. Meanwhile the person you called about is walking out the door wondering why so many cops are around.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,401 posts)Doodley
(9,078 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,401 posts)Doodley
(9,078 posts)my house. I walk through the city alone at night. I confront those who are offensive. But anyone who carries a gun like that in a store, and on display for all to see, isn't somebody I am going to verbally attack to make a point. Yes, I would be in fear in that instance.
JHB
(37,158 posts)He's got the magazine in, so one has to assume it's fully leaded and ready to fire.
Can't tell at a distance whether he's got the safety on like he's supposed to.
He thinks the barrel is pointed at the ground, but it's actually pointed at the feet of the person standing to his left.
All he needs to do is lean over to look at the pastries, and the barrel is no longer pointed at the ground.
Even when it is pointed at the ground, it's not as if he's out in a field and an accidental discharge will bury itself in the dirt; floors and parking lots are hard surfaces that can cause ricochets.
He's disregarding the people around him and carrying it in an un-safe manner. Kind on inevitable, because there is no safe way to carry in that environment.
gibraltar72
(7,500 posts)HAB911
(8,873 posts)rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)If you want to attract women, buy a sensible, reliable car and keep it maintained and clean.
The only ones attracted to flashy, expensive sports cars are old men and young boys.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)So its either carry a weapon or buy a Vette in order to compensate for..........
A tiny dick?
Thanks! I had no idea that was the reason.
gibraltar72
(7,500 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)a 2016 I've had about 17 months now.
It replaced this 2006;
My 92 C-4
So I suppose I have been trying to compensate for something for quite a long time.
Either that, or I just simply like them because they are fun to drive.
Naaaah...couldn't be that, could it?
As a funny aside, when I take the one I have to a store, I leave it outside, parked off in a corner. If I get any reaction at all, it's little more than a friendly "Nice Car".
So I suppose I can handle the insinuations that men that buy Corvettes must be compensating for allegedly having small dicks. It never made anyone turn around and leave a coffee shop, however.
TwilightZone
(25,454 posts)I'm surprised you haven't heard it before. It's been around about as long as Corvettes have.
Also common is the stereotype that it's an old white guy's car, though that isn't exactly helped out by the average age of ownership, which is 61.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)I did after all, just fall off this;
Or perhaps it was one of these;
OK....just so you know that you aren't the only one on this board with enough years under your belt to remember party line phone systems or any other specific inside knowledge privy only to the elder set, here's a little info;
I was born when there was only 49 states, and a mere 6 months earlier, there had been only 48. Eisenhower was president.
That makes me 60. I bought and sold my first Corvette when I was in my 40's. Certainly not the youngest man to ever buy one, but certainly not the oldest.
But frankly, I don't give a fucking sloppy tinkers cuss whether or not I meet or fucking exceed the stereotype, I LIKE THE FUCKING CAR!!! Nor do I give two fucking shits whether or not you or anyone else approves of my automotive purchasing decisions.
It's fun to drive, I can afford it, and the last two iterations - the last two I have owned - represent an evolution in the model line that are essentially world class sports cars.
What's funny is that the accusation that the types of guy who would buy such a car must have a tiny penis always seem to come from people with an axe to grind. For whatever reason, because I enjoy the car I have bought, I'm assumed to be minimally endowed.
It is a fascinating perspective.
Ask yourself how many on this board would tolerate an oft repeated meme about a specific car being the favorite of gay men, or black women or Asians, yet it is perfectly alright to say REPEATEDLY on DU, that men who drive a Corvette must have a tiny dick.
Fine. I'm hung like a doorbell button, and that's why I bought a Corvette.
OK? Does that clear it up for you and the rest of the......
Fuck it.....You know what you are.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)and leave. I'd probably not go back either.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)No way to know if this guy is just an ass, or an ass about to go pyscho.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)Hand Crocheted Dick Covers.
No job too small.
Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)essme
(1,207 posts)She and her husband got up and left, and called with a credit card to pay for their meal.
procon
(15,805 posts)Breakfast at a popular local coffee shop, very crowded, families and kids. Then these two guys wearing camo costumes and packing big, huge pistols get seated. They caused an instant sensation that prompted some people to ask for a different table, others finished quickly and left.
The men kept fiddling around with their guns, readjusting straps, pushing them one way then another. One wore his gun low slung on his hip and it kept pulling his pants down and banging against the side of his metal chair attracting attention. The other one had his gun strapped to the middle of his chest and he kept whacking it against the table as he tried to eat. The funniest part was he kept spilling bits of food on his gun and inside the holster. When he tried to take the gun out that made lots of çustomers angry, and they started yelling, kids were crying, the manager told the guys to get out.
We got up to pay and as I passed their table I smiled like the Cheshire Cat and pushed one of those cards toward him. We didn't hang around to see his reaction.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Hes looking for a reaction; he craves the attention and Im not going to cooperate with his shit.
old guy
(3,283 posts)wendyb-NC
(3,319 posts)albacore
(2,398 posts)I feel threatened, and it's not up to me to sort the situation out. Let the pros do it.
And I'd tell them it was an "assault rifle", too
sarisataka
(18,560 posts)August 5, 2014 at a Walmart in Beaver Creek, Ohio.
The pros sorted it out, in their own fashion...
albacore
(2,398 posts)...weapon wasn't going to shoot up the place.
I'll go with the pros.
LakeArenal
(28,812 posts)FM123
(10,053 posts)Let the business owner know exactly why you and your family (and every one else in your sphere of influence) will not be spending their dollars at their business.
hunter
(38,309 posts)This actually happened at a fast food place in my neighborhood.
Open carry is against the law here.
It was generally regarded as some kind of "suicide by cop."
I've unfortunately witnessed police shooting at people on multiple occasions.
I always think hard before calling the police. Mostly I don't. I'd be upset if the police shot, say, a kid spray painting graffiti on my back wall, or a mentally ill homeless person yelling obscenities at passing cars.
In my rough youth I worked in places where we frequently had to tell people to leave. In some places an aluminum softball bat was kept behind the counter if a more forceful response was required.
I'd have no trouble telling this gun toting freak to get the hell out. I might also take his hat as a trophy.
What's a law abiding militiaman exercising his second amendment rights going to do, shoot me?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I'm older and have done this sort of thing for various reasons before. I like to make my point but am not inclined to scenes, and in this case especially I certainly wouldn't talk to the other people even if they talked to me.
Btw, I was once told to not look unpleasant people in the eyes but to focus briefly above and between, denying them an opportunity to meet my eyes aggressively. Tried it once and been doing it ever since. It sends a message.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)kairos12
(12,850 posts)Javaman
(62,510 posts)granted probably nothing will happen, but having this asshole on the news showing that he's an asshole to his friends and neighbors will be enough.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)Point, laugh and tell him I'm sorry that he has a micropenis
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,713 posts)Then we dont have to guess how small your penis is.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)mcar
(42,294 posts)elleng
(130,834 posts)MineralMan
(146,284 posts)I might leave. I might laugh. I might ask, "Expecting a war soon, dude?"
It just depends.
ScratchCat
(1,980 posts)I would also leave and call the authorities. There is no other reason to openly carry a firearm except for attempting to intimidate someone. That is the only purpose. I am totally against open carry of handguns and nobody should be able to sling a rifle over the shoulder and go to a fast food joint.
Doodley
(9,078 posts)catrose
(5,065 posts)lastlib
(23,197 posts)... a man with an assault rifle making threatening gestures. Make him explain it to the SWAT team, and give him some discomfort.
pnwest
(3,266 posts)just laugh, shake my head and stay right the hell where I am and not let his small-dick attempt at intimidation run me off. And keep staring at him until he looked at me so I could sneer at him. That other 1 day though, Id scream Oh my God! Hes got a gun!!, run out the door dialing 911, and just make a huge fucking scene so hes all over the news and turned into a meme.
Or maybe Ill start carrying a balloon 🎈 in my purse, and when I see this guy, blow it up and pop it right next to his ear, watch him cower in fright and expose him for the useless non-hero he is.
JDC
(10,122 posts)That is a ridiculous in your face show of force that is not only unnecessary, shows a level of irresponsibility and disregard for others. Fuck that guy.
ffr
(22,665 posts)Then you find out if he was there to kill people.
Liberal In Texas
(13,542 posts)let them in their stores.
I'd leave and call/write the manager/owners of the establishment and tell they why I didn't buy anything from them today.
Meadowoak
(5,545 posts)DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,919 posts)Michigan is an open carry state. It's not common for rifles, except up north, but I see at least one open carrying a pistol at least once every week or so.
Calling the cops here will result in 1 of 2 things, absolutely nothing, or one may show up, watch for a few min, and leave.
Michigan has a rather active open carry group, and after a few incidents with them, most cities and departments around here leave them alone because the courts here have generally sided with the open carriers.
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)Throck
(2,520 posts)uponit7771
(90,329 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,401 posts)IMO demonstrates how dangerous we've become.
I spent a half a year 2 years ago near the Ozarks tending a family farm after my father in law passed before selling it. During those 6 months spent there I saw first hand how almost EVERYONE I spoke with carried a gun in their car or had multiple handguns or rifles or both out in the open in their houses or garages - both men and women. My wife's niece was 11 and she had a pink AR-15 of her own.
Too damn many people here are simply ignorant of the fact that many of the DEPLORABLES are people you do not want living near you.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Siwsan
(26,257 posts)If I see an employee, I'll let them know why I'm leaving, and tell them the location of my cart, if it contains frozen food.
Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)And then call the store manager and tell them why they've permanently lost my business.
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)These idiots tend to be small minded hotheads. Nonsense in tempting fate that they might get skeered and start shooting.
SWBTATTReg
(22,100 posts)What is it with these people and the 'hero' complex that they all have, that they, and only they, will save us all!?
Grow up, get a life, and NO, I don't want your help in defending myself.
C_U_L8R
(44,996 posts)I'd turn around and never go back.
Sneederbunk
(14,286 posts)blugbox
(951 posts)I'd eject his stupid mag, and then ask him why he needs 30 rounds to hit a target when he's also got a freaking 10x scope attached...
Tacticool to the max! Instant fear and respect!
In reality, I would ask for a manager and ask them if they condone that. I hope they'd either remove the person, or I remove myself immediately.
I turn around and leave. I don't even want to LIVE in a state that has open carry. And these idiots
with these long guns strapped to their back, do they realize what kind of pathetic thing they really look like? Is their goal to scare normal people? Just pathetic. Who the hell needs a gun at a
Starbucks?
ms liberty
(8,572 posts)I don't know him from Adam, and he could turn into a spree killer in a heartbeat.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,336 posts)jayfish
(10,039 posts)The guy is obviously there with his family getting coffee.
Polly Hennessey
(6,793 posts)Exit store quickly and quietly. Call 911 and let them know. Drive home. Make a cup of tea and hope I do not see a Breaking News banner.
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)I refuse to do business with anyone who allows an open firearm in their establishment.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,309 posts)liberaltrucker
(9,129 posts)nt
Stinky The Clown
(67,779 posts)Doodley
(9,078 posts)Freethinker65
(10,008 posts)But more to the point, I do not want to see open carry weapons around my suburban community or the big city. I have less problems with concealed carry.
After the initial shock of seeing people open carry in public in rural areas, especially during hunting season, I am still a bit uncomfortable but understand the hunting weapon is probably safer with the hunter in the store than left in a vehicle somewhere while the hunter is elsewhere.
This guy is obviously trying to make some idiotic statement, so I would probably wait to ridicule him until either he or I left.
FYI, I do not own a gun and currently have no desire to.
Pachamama
(16,886 posts)He started laughing and said that man could be taken from behind in a matter of seconds with a knife slitting his throat and he would be dead before he could sling it into position to even aim...
These assholes running around with their "big guns" feel so tough and masculine....
Glorfindel
(9,726 posts)n/t
Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)Runningdawg
(4,516 posts)He's the first thing a shooter will kill and if I am standing within 25 ft I am probably next. Now IF it were a very large store and I could move, I would do that. IF I see 3 or more like him in a cluster anywhere, I leave AND when I leave a place because of a GANG displaying weapons, I always send the business an email and tell them when I was there, why I left and there and that I won't be coming back.
Most recently this occured at a Popeyes Chicken on the N side of Tulsa. For those of you who don't know, the N side is predominantly minorities. There were 4 guys, 20 somethings, white and armed to the teeth. They didn't just casually drop in for a bite to eat. They passed 100 chicken places on the way up from the suburbs. OK goes constitutional Nov 1, I expect to see a lot more of this type of intimidation.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Moral Compass
(1,516 posts)I was in retail car sales when this open carry thing went into effect in Texas.
I made it clear to the GM and the other managers that I would not wait on someone openly carrying and I would leave work until the armed customer had left.
My reasoning was that anyone that would open carry has a screw loose.
It never happened. What that told me is that there are very few of the type of gun fetishist that want to carry at all times.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)BUT: leave
I don't go looking for trouble, and first sign of it?
*poof* gone!
Over 50, made it!
stillcool
(32,626 posts)I don't care who has the gun, I don't want to be anywhere near it. Bad things happen around guns.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Contact the store chain and ask them why they permit open carry in their stores.
Tell them to post appropriate signs to prohibit open carry.
lpbk2713
(42,751 posts)A normal person does not go on a shopping trip like this. And
his companion has a large shoulder bag. Is she packing too?
DVRacer
(707 posts)I would ask who helped you setup this rifle?
Explain how his weapon retention is going to get someone hurt most likely you. How his choice in optics is all wrong for the rest of his loadout. I mean really a 4-14 scope with sunshade on a 16 carbine. Tell him point blank due to his choices so far he should take a class or three before ever carrying in public again. In essence I would make him feel small for his pathetic behavior and choices. Im different I understand but ridicule works with his type. This conversation would be held in my Drill Sergeant style voice Im sure I would have a few sharp cut downs fall out of my mouth.
Something like this:
Jesus age Christ, what a rolling clusterfuck! Sir apparently this best part of you ran down your mommas leg. Look at your piss poor weapon retention, hell I could rip that off your back and fuck you up the ass with it but I bet you would get off on it. Who the fuck shared with you in their great wisdom to put a god damn long range scope on a close quarter rifle did your daddy teach you that along with his love for goats? Your dumb ass needs to get some schooling on every fucking decision you made to walk out in public looking this way. You should fucking be ashamed of yourself and the shame you have just brought to every gun owner in the entire Fucking United States. Now go stow your gear until you have a small grasp on how to fucking use it you fucking moron.
Before you say I wont trust me I have made bigger men than him quake when I get rolling. Im not family friendly at those moments.
RichardRay
(2,611 posts)But then, I live in Wyoming, so Im hardened to it.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)He may be just a jerk. He may be a insane. The only fact we have is that he can certainly kill many people quickly.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)Id yell for the guy to instantly get the fuck on the ground and to spread his arms and legs. If he didnt, Id shoot him without hesitation.
Ive been in combat situations and I dont play around with threats like that.
Fortunately for everyone, I lost my ability to keep firearms after a serious suicide attempt and my history of severe PTSD.
obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)Different Drummer
(7,612 posts)DD
Vinca
(50,253 posts)I wish I knew why these people think this is okay. Cups of coffee rarely attack.
Caliman73
(11,727 posts)I would not leave, nor would I necessarily feel safer, and I certainly would not be indifferent. I would be thinking WTF? Why would you open carry an AR in public? That is just stupid. I would keep an eye on the guy's movements, get my coffee and depending on my original plan either take it to go, or drink it in the shop. I don't know the guy's mind so I don't know if he is a threat or not. Were he holding the rifle in his hands that would be a different story and I would book the hell out and call 911. As it is now, it is slung in a way that you could tell if he were going to shoulder it.
Interestingly, when you go to Mexico, you see the Federales or Military all the time with the ARs or FALs and you think nothing of it. I remember after 911 you saw National Guard and Military with their ARs and it was surreal. It is all about what you are used to, which is probably this butt munch's intention, to normalize open carry of rifles. I have seen pictures from Switzerland with people with rifles slung across their backs (granted they do not have magazines inserted) and people are just going about their business.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)As others have said, you don't know this guy or his mental state, or if someone else will mess with him and trigger him into action, with ill intent or not. Once adrenaline kicks in, anything goes.
These weapons create unwarranted FEAR in most members of the public and if only from a moral standpoint, that is unfair to other customers in that store. Who the hell wants to go get a cup of coffee and come out with nerves on edge?
I would also call the store's headquarters and tell them of my experience and displeasure with the visit.
KY......
Initech
(100,056 posts)Quixote1818
(28,926 posts)Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)Iggo
(47,546 posts)Fla_Democrat
(2,547 posts)May ask him about it, see if he is a member of the same local range. etc.
Sancho
(9,067 posts)...just shoot him and claim...
1. ) you feared for your life because he parked in a handicapped spot
2.) he was playing his radio too loud
3.) you were standing your ground when he cut in line
Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)ecstatic
(32,677 posts)could knock his ass out, take the gun, and start shooting. Everyone's life is in jeopardy due to his small penis syndrome.
tulipsandroses
(5,122 posts)I am a black woman in America. I am not taking chances.
Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)Progressive Law
(617 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,800 posts).
Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)Mersky
(4,980 posts)Then run away... Maybe takedown his license plate.
Basically, I'd leave.
Luciferous
(6,078 posts)about 10 miles from the Southaven Walmart where 2 people were killed last week.
jpak
(41,757 posts)This is not normal
Mersky
(4,980 posts)His right to feel powerful comes at the cost of everyone else's loss of personal power in view of that ridiculous death machine.
RobinA
(9,888 posts)I dont want to be anywhere near that thing or the moran (sic) carrying it.
myohmy2
(3,152 posts)...leave...
...and any business that would serve an individual wearing an assault rifle doesn't need my business, now or in the future...
...I'm not willing to entertain the notion that we've become a modern day version of the Old West...that wearing an assault rifle is somehow normal; acceptable garb...
...republicans...
Skittles
(153,138 posts)people who need a gun to buy coffee are exactly the kind of people who should NOT HAVE GUNS
betsuni
(25,447 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)NotASurfer
(2,149 posts)Depends on state and local laws for me. Lived in Texas for a while, for example, where state law allows businesses to post a statutory notice prohibiting firearms from the premises. If that notice was posted, and this guy walked in, leave and call the police. If on the other hand the notice is not posted, I don't patronize the establishment to begin with.