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SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:12 AM Aug 2019

Useless, useless media.

Trump has mentioned mental illness 20 or 30 times as the cause of mass shootings.

Not one, not one 'journalist' mentioned he signed the law that makes it easier

for mentally ill people and fugitives to get guns.

NOT ONE !!!

Spineless useless cowards.

Now he just referred to crazy people having guns.

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Useless, useless media. (Original Post) SamKnause Aug 2019 OP
+1,000 malaise Aug 2019 #1
"Members of the Press, What The Fuck?" dalton99a Aug 2019 #2
K&R, they are less knowledgeable than you are uponit7771 Aug 2019 #3
He signs what he is good to sign, and he reverses every Obama achievement he can. It's tblue37 Aug 2019 #4
Journalist should know what he signed. SamKnause Aug 2019 #5
True. nt tblue37 Aug 2019 #7
you and me both.. mountain grammy Aug 2019 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author jayschool2013 Aug 2019 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author jayschool2013 Aug 2019 #29
They know. roody Aug 2019 #44
The media has been conditioned over decades to: Maven Aug 2019 #6
... SamKnause Aug 2019 #9
Me too. Maven Aug 2019 #10
Because most of them are wealthy Rs, or owned by them NRaleighLiberal Aug 2019 #17
THIS! Brainfodder Aug 2019 #22
The media is only as liberal as the conservative corporations that own it. CrispyQ Aug 2019 #24
The media is soft because if they weren't, most would run from them? Brainfodder Aug 2019 #26
You know what else? smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #8
MSNBC reported the bill signing. I watched. A stand alone bill, up-or-down vote that got through. ancianita Aug 2019 #11
I was referring to the journalists doing the helicopter interviews. SamKnause Aug 2019 #13
Access matters more to White House reporters than getting the truth out. SunSeeker Aug 2019 #12
I refuse to accept that as an excuse. SamKnause Aug 2019 #15
Yes, but you seek the truth and feel the need to reveal this hypocrisy. Ligyron Aug 2019 #20
Yes, but you're a patriot, most White House correspondents obviously aren't. nt SunSeeker Aug 2019 #34
K&R... spanone Aug 2019 #14
Exactly. For them it is about money, not our well being NRaleighLiberal Aug 2019 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author jayschool2013 Aug 2019 #28
I'm sorry, but to me, anybody who feels that strongly that they need lots of guns calimary Aug 2019 #18
It is not smart to advertise what fire arms you have. gordianot Aug 2019 #21
"Trump has mentioned mental illness 20 or 30 times as the cause of mass shootings." Martin Eden Aug 2019 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author jayschool2013 Aug 2019 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author jayschool2013 Aug 2019 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author jayschool2013 Aug 2019 #31
Sorry for all the deleted posts jayschool2013 Aug 2019 #32
Did you interview Trump today ??? SamKnause Aug 2019 #36
A "spineless, useless coward" was murdered this week jayschool2013 Aug 2019 #33
There are still journalists in this world mountain grammy Aug 2019 #38
We do not have the freest "media" jayschool2013 Aug 2019 #39
Thanks.. I knew that but didn't understand it was that bad mountain grammy Aug 2019 #40
True that jayschool2013 Aug 2019 #42
I'm I Grand County mountain grammy Aug 2019 #43
Sadly, most community news chains have been bought up by the right Cetacea Aug 2019 #46
He is mentally ill. Joe941 Aug 2019 #35
Plenty of people on MSNBC have been pointing out this very thing. stopbush Aug 2019 #37
I've heard this brought up numerous times. nt UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #41
Don't worry. Once he puts them all on "Re-education camps" they'll Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2019 #45
This is still just the tip of the iceberg. MasonDreams Aug 2019 #47

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
4. He signs what he is good to sign, and he reverses every Obama achievement he can. It's
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:16 AM
Aug 2019

just automatic. He probably doesn't even know what he's signing half the time.

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
5. Journalist should know what he signed.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:19 AM
Aug 2019

I thought that was the job they were paid to do.

I am sick of their ineptness.

Response to mountain grammy (Reply #23)

Response to SamKnause (Reply #5)

Maven

(10,533 posts)
6. The media has been conditioned over decades to:
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:20 AM
Aug 2019

a) Give Rs the benefit of the doubt even when doing so requires suspending absurd levels of disbelief

b) Never call Rs on their hypocrisy to their face

c) Cast doubt and uncertainty on the motives of Ds whenever possible

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
9. ...
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:25 AM
Aug 2019

d) I am fucking sick of it.

This country is being eaten from within and the 'journalist' are aiding and abetting

this countries demise.

P.S. Your post is spot on.

Maven

(10,533 posts)
10. Me too.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:52 AM
Aug 2019

I have lots of issues with Twitter as a platform, but it has been beneficial is as a direct channel to pundits and journalists who traffic in false equivalencies and double-standards for Rs and Ds. They are finally getting pushback from our side after years of kowtowing to conservatives.

Our side needs to start calling them out on the air, too -- the same way that Rs spread their bogus "liberal media" charge over the years so that pundits and journalists would overcompensate in Rs' favor to avoid appearing biased against conservatives.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
22. THIS!
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 01:23 PM
Aug 2019

Rupert and Sheldon are going to have to die of old age before much changes on that front? Those 2 evil shits won't stop with their BS otherwise, or they would have by now.

The Koch brothers, ditto.

Mitch.

Who else?


CrispyQ

(36,423 posts)
24. The media is only as liberal as the conservative corporations that own it.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 01:24 PM
Aug 2019


A bumper sticker I saw once.

on edit: The media will make money even if we go fascist. In fact, somewhere there is a corporate exec salivating over the ratings of one faction of Americans killing off the factions they disagree with. First they came for the Muslims, and then the brown people, and then the journalists, and then the libs. I don't see one thing on that 14 signs of fascism that I don't also see in this country.

14 Defining Characteristics of Fascism

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
26. The media is soft because if they weren't, most would run from them?
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 01:31 PM
Aug 2019

Every question asked, the answer is already known or hear comes the dodge!?!

Now they just battle for ratings and they are dying for their ridiculous gotcha questions to actually work, they have stomped actual journalism flat?

I'm wasting no time with TV news any more, and feeling better off!



 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. You know what else?
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:25 AM
Aug 2019

Mentally ill people shouldn't be able to become president.

Article 25 of the US Constitution. Remove him.

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
13. I was referring to the journalists doing the helicopter interviews.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 12:42 PM
Aug 2019

That is when the really tough questions need to be asked.

They show those clips on all the news channels.

MSNBC clips don't get that kind of coverage.

Trump needs to be bashed every time he is in front of a live mic.

His lies are ripping this country apart.

SunSeeker

(51,513 posts)
12. Access matters more to White House reporters than getting the truth out.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 12:27 PM
Aug 2019

They know if they make the President look bad, they might be denied what little access they have already been reduced to.

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
15. I refuse to accept that as an excuse.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 12:48 PM
Aug 2019

Call a press conference and explain what is going on.

Explain that you aren't being permitted to report the facts.

Explain how dangerous this is.

Explain what a threat this is to the welfare of this country.

Stand up, do something.

Follow your conscience, not your check book.

I have been put in that situation.

I was 39.

I was single.

I quit.

Ligyron

(7,616 posts)
20. Yes, but you seek the truth and feel the need to reveal this hypocrisy.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 01:17 PM
Aug 2019

You know, for the good of the country and so you're no doubt patriotic too. They're not.

Besides, corporate would probably never allow it. Not even MSNBC.

Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #16)

calimary

(81,110 posts)
18. I'm sorry, but to me, anybody who feels that strongly that they need lots of guns
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 01:09 PM
Aug 2019

including the most hideous mass-murder machines, to me they ARE crazy people.

Did anybody see that Chris Cuomo town hall on guns on CNN the other night? One of the people there in the audience was a middle aged white woman who was described as owning an AR-15 assault rifle. I waited in vain for either the “experts” on stage or Chris Cuomo himself to stop and ask her - “why do you think you need to own an AR-15? Do you live in a Syrian ghetto or something, ma’am?” But no. I certainly would have asked that. Another white American paranoiac?

gordianot

(15,233 posts)
21. It is not smart to advertise what fire arms you have.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 01:21 PM
Aug 2019

It is even more stupid to think they will keep you safe.

Martin Eden

(12,847 posts)
19. "Trump has mentioned mental illness 20 or 30 times as the cause of mass shootings."
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 01:17 PM
Aug 2019

Besides pointing out that Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to acquire deadly weapons, the Mainstream media should also have clarified that Trump's own mental illness has influenced some of the shooters.

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jayschool2013

(2,311 posts)
32. Sorry for all the deleted posts
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 01:41 PM
Aug 2019

I need to grow a thicker skin.

I know you didn't intend to call me a "spineless, useless coward." Right?

(Oh, and you need a comma between adjectives of equal rank describing the same noun. Stupid journalism school taught me that 38 years ago.)

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
36. Did you interview Trump today ???
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 04:26 PM
Aug 2019

If you did, yes I was referring to you.

If you didn't, no I wasn't referring to you.

Thanks for the punctuation lesson.

I could use a refresher course.

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
38. There are still journalists in this world
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:38 PM
Aug 2019

endangering and sometimes losing their lives to tell the truth, and that’s recognized here. What’s so damned depressing is arguable the “most free” media in the world, lacks the courage to confront the raging hypocrisy of American politics.

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
40. Thanks.. I knew that but didn't understand it was that bad
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:53 PM
Aug 2019

But I should. We’ve been seeing the daily attacks..and I think worse days are ahead, but I think the national network news that average Americans depend on have failed us miserably. It’s corporate after all.

jayschool2013

(2,311 posts)
42. True that
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:56 PM
Aug 2019

TV is show business, mostly.

Not sure where you are, but a few of my former CU Boulder students work at newspapers in the mountains, particularly at the Summit Daily.

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
43. I'm I Grand County
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:39 PM
Aug 2019

Small towns are where good journalism can really make a difference..it’s been hit or miss in my 30 years here. Several years ago I begged the then editor of our Skyhi news to please stop publishing weekly letters from climate change deniers, citing several major newspapers who had done that. Much to my surprise he agreed and that nonsense ceased..

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
46. Sadly, most community news chains have been bought up by the right
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:47 AM
Aug 2019

along with talk radio and TV stations

stopbush

(24,392 posts)
37. Plenty of people on MSNBC have been pointing out this very thing.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 06:12 PM
Aug 2019

You’re not watching the right channels.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
47. This is still just the tip of the iceberg.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:11 PM
Aug 2019

There are NO exit polls that hold election results to task. Bribes are legalized. Never asked questions don't need to be answered. I have lowered my expectations lower than I could have imagined 5yrs back. Massive change is coming and it will be painful. All we really need is free and fair elections including primaries, for '20 & '22. Money turns everything to shit. Peacefully changing needs an informed and educated electorate, and the airwaves belong to the people. ☮️ Enough for a 300 billion dollar/year defense budget, leaves us 500 billion to play with !! Of course Medicare for all is alot cheaper than what we got !! It seems so easy, but the forces against, pay the media and the govt

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