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Source: The Guardian
Backlash over picture posted on first ladys Twitter account
Two-month-olds parents shot dead in attack that killed 22
Edward Helmore in New York
Fri 9 Aug 2019 14.45 BST Last modified on Fri 9 Aug 2019 16.09 BST
A backlash is building over a picture posted by Melania Trump on Twitter that showed her and Donald Trump smiling broadly while holding a baby who was orphaned in the mass shooting in El Paso.
On a visit to El Paso this week, the president flashed a thumbs-up when posing with the two-month-old, whose parents Andre and Jordan Anchondo were shot dead last Saturday. When the picture was posted on the first ladys Twitter account on Thursday, it prompted outrage.
On a hospital visit in El Paso, Trump then reignited a dispute with 2020 Democratic contender and former local congressman Beto ORourke over crowd sizes, before getting into a Twitter row with the Dayton mayor, Nan Whaley.
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This is a photo of Trump grinning while Melania holds a baby orphaned by the shooting. A baby who was taken from home and forced to serve as a prop at a photo-op for the very monster whose hate killed her/his parents.
I would need 280,000 characters to say how furious I am.
Link to tweet
The orphaned child, named Paul, had been brought back to the hospital reportedly at the request of White House during the visit by the Trumps on Wednesday. The babys uncle, standing next to Donald Trump, is reportedly a Trump supporter, as was the deceased father.
The baby was injured, breaking his fingers, in the shooting, after his mother died trying to protect him and her body fell on him. His father had dived to try to shield her as bullets flew.
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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/09/trump-el-paso-melania-orphan-baby-thumbs-up
Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)Said that Trump, unlike 'other' politicians, often doesn't think about the optics, he just follows how he feels.
Actually,
1- Optics is ALL he cares about, and
2- The FOX description of his behavior is a good approximation of what defines a sociopath.
Funtatlaguy
(10,870 posts)O
PSPS
(13,590 posts)dalton99a
(81,450 posts)Tito Anchondo says his family has always been Republican conservatives. "My brother was very supportive of Trump," he said, adding that he would like to sit down with the president and tell him about their pain.
"I want to see his reaction in person," he said. "I want to see if he's genuine and see if my political views are right or wrong. And see if he feels maybe some kind of remorse for statements that he's made. I just want to have a human-to-human talk with him and see how he feels."
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/08/749099244/the-couple-killed-saving-their-baby-in-el-paso-had-just-found-a-future-together
durablend
(7,460 posts)"I want him to SEE the pain of shooting people like me and why he should keep supporting shooting people like me"
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I fear for that poor child. Watch Trump deport them all next week.
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)He thinks his legal status, that white racist people could care less about makes him higher in status. He thinks that will protect him.
Demovictory9
(32,448 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)A person's own relative kill by a racist whose hatred is spurred on by Trump in essence supports his proxy killer. This is a prime example of the result of fifty years of vicious propaganda that has been spewed 24/7 that has convinced millions that Democrats are the enemy and must be destroyed. It is totally beyond my comprehension. They are displaying the baby like it is some kind of trophy rather than victim of their own misguided allegiance to a man who in reality despises them as vermin. It is beyond being Orwellian.
PandoraAwakened
(905 posts)They own an auto body shop in El Paso and are typical of immigrant generations whose forefathers did the actual immigration struggle only for their progeny to say, "I got mine---now, quick, lock the gate!"
These Rethuglicans are the parents of the young Hispanic father who died. The other set of grandparents, the parents of the young Caucasian mother who was murdered, are real Trump-humper winners too---they've been spending a lot of time getting themselves featured on media outlets around the world emphasizing how they have already forgiven the shooter, blah, blah, blah (Jehovah's Witness apologists using religion to justify tRump and as a way to not face the fact that they themselves voted to have their own daughter killed).
So, for those who might bemoan the future of this poor baby, know that it was not going to be good anyway with family like this on both sides.
Too harsh? Well, so is using a baby as an admission ticket to gain entrance to a photo op with your favorite cult leader...just sayin'.
Caliman73
(11,730 posts)There is absolutely no need for this baby to be involved in anything at this point. The relatives are horrible for even agreeing to it. Look, I can understand taking pictures with first responders to celebrate their heroism. I can even understand photos with victims if they are respectful and genuinely showing care, and if the victim consents to the photo. This baby doesn't even know what is going on and will not really know fully until he is older and can digest the tragedy. There may be significant attachment injury losing his primary caregivers, but the narcissistic jerk in the White House, had to have his photo op. That kid is going to find out one day (maybe) that his parents were killed by a racist bastard inspired by the asshole standing to his right, to kill people like him and his parents.
Red Pest
(288 posts)Isn't it standard human practice to keep children out of these sorts of publicity photos when the kids have been orphaned or injured? However, Trump is a failed human. He is such a failure as a human that he smiles and gives a "thumbs-up" while his gold-digger wife holds the child and smiles. Again, these people have failed as humans; they lack empathy and a sense of shame. They do not perceive right or wrong; they only acknowledge themselves. "If I am only for myself, what am I?" (Hillel)
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Allowing this baby to be used as a political prop is sick
PandoraAwakened
(905 posts)Baby is stuck with shitty family on both sides.
Hekate
(90,643 posts)Inappropriate as hell.
I hear his aides thought the day was a debacle, and had tried to manage everything so it would not be. Then the monster got on AF-1 and started to tweet.
You know, this is what you have to do when grandpa goes off the rails. You just try to "manage" him as long as possible.
A normal family wouldn't... Well, Trumps aren't normal. Their motivations toward him and each other have nothing to do with compassion, dignity, and honor, and everything to do with their personal power and wealth.
The rest of us...
MyOwnPeace
(16,925 posts)this is not a "family" thing ("managing" grandpa) - this is the man that is the leader of the free world - and has the big red button!
Hekate
(90,643 posts)...much less the presidency. But as long as he can still sign what's put in front of him, there are people around him who will prop him up and pretend all is okay.
It's heinous.
MyOwnPeace
(16,925 posts)And THAT, my friends, is the Republican Party!
KPN
(15,642 posts)repulsive couple as WH occupants. They are not the First Family -- they are interlopers, a disgrace to that in institution.
Traildogbob
(8,713 posts)Other than Donny holding Ivanka's ass, has there ever been a photo of either of those grifters holding their own infant children? Just one. With those phony smiles while holding any of them. Trump has no empathy of those children without a parent because his hated him, as his kids have no idea what a parent is?
KPN
(15,642 posts)and would never hold or touch her the way tRump did (and does) her -- actually even video during the convention.
lame54
(35,284 posts)Placing the baby in a cage?
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)calimary
(81,212 posts)Using that innocent newly-orphaned baby for a smiley photo op with the schmuck whose heated racist jingoistic rhetoric led directly to his parents murder.
FUCKING HIDEOUS!!!!
aggiesal
(8,910 posts)Truly an idiot!
dmr
(28,347 posts)Maybe her smile is because babies do bring out the smiles in us, but the more I think about it ...
If this were me, after just flying in from Dayton, and knowing everything that has transpired in both communities. Knowing the pain, suffering and unbelievable heartache so many people are experiencing ... I'd hold that beautiful baby with tears and sorrow.
And in all truthfulness, I would never pose in a photo-op. There are things you just quietly do, this is one of them.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)She thinks she's a supermodel, which she never was.
These people make my stomach turn.
3catwoman3
(23,972 posts)Nothing more. Still nothing more.
srobertss
(261 posts)Until the jacket. And this photo was on her Twitter account. Was there anyone around her saying, This is a little off kilter? Did she overrule advice before posting? I dont know why I care about this minutiae. These people are such a strange breed it leaves me baffled.
malaise
(268,928 posts)oasis
(49,376 posts)LisaM
(27,801 posts)Imagine if they had to take a Latinx baby home and care for it.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Or maybe...I don't know, not support a politician who wants to kill you?
renate
(13,776 posts)Or the killer might have gone metastable, seeing a Latino man wearing the emblem of his beloved leader.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)As an engineer, the word has a very specific technical meaning; I can see how it'd extend to a robot or Trumpbot.
Vinca
(50,261 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Yuck.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)gladly return the baby for this disgusting photo op I truly dont get them on many levels. He hates them already because theyre Latinos with brown skin. He and his psycho wife grinning with a thumbs up would do the same if both the man and the woman were in dog cages begging to be allowed to clean themselves. Yet they seem to be quite willing to use the baby as a prop to show they support Trump.
That baby is in trouble. I truly feel very sorry for it. His fate seems to be pretty clear.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)Wednesdays
(17,342 posts)WHO THINK THIS IS NORMAL AND OKAY!?
perdita9
(1,144 posts)Allowing the baby to be posed in a picture with the man who riled up the killer who cost 2 parents their lives seems indicative of a failure in judgement.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)This has to be one of the most grotesque things I have ever seen him and his floozy of a wife do yet. I actually feel nauseated looking at this photo.
Botany
(70,489 posts)Just how sick is he and Melania too? Thumbs up?
DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts). . .for his own selfish purposes.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Sickening they would allow the child to be used in this way.
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)This is nothing more than a photo op for him. The baby is just a prop for another cheap bone to throw to his deplorables. He couldnt care less about little Paul or his murdered parents. Some of the deplorables at first will be disgusted, but then the Trump propaganda network with swing into action and do damage control as usual. Sick, twisted, vile. Donald Trump.