Anyone breathing a sigh of relief that Epstein died should inhale deeply and keep worrying

[StarfishSaver]

Epstein dying only means he won't be tried and convicted if a crime. But the evidence is the evidence, there are too many witnesses (many of whom may be more likely to talk now that Epstein is longer a perceived threat), reams of documents are in the possession of the courts and Epstein's estate will surely be sued out the wazzoo.

This isn't going away. Anyone who was terrified about this whole Epstein was alive should be just as frightened now.

As Atticus Finch said about the rabid dog he killed "That dog is just as dangerous dead as alive."

[Iliyah]

1. I think the investigations will continue . . .

of course criminal Barr will continue to block and cover up shit, but in the long run, the minors at the time of unspeakable acts by powerful men will prevail.

[Cirque du So-What]

2. Pardon my ignorance, but don't RICO statutes apply?

Appears to meet the definition of a criminal enterprise.

[StarfishSaver]

3. Possibly

Interesting approach.

[USALiberal]

4. Well, a lot of info died with him. And hearsay is a problem without him. nt

[StarfishSaver]

6. I don't agree

No guarantee he would ever have testified.

And the only hearsay that would be affected by his death are comments he made or documents only he could authenticate. And even then, it's not likely that much relevant evidence would be excluded under the hearsay rule since most of it would either not actually be hearsay or would be subject to an exception.

[WheelWalker]

10. "For every hearsay there's an exception."

[StarfishSaver]

11. Hearsay is an out-of-court statement offered for the truth of the matter asserted

And there are many exceptions.

So, for example, if a victim testifies that Epstein told her a client was at the Ritz and she must go have sex with him there, she could testify to that without running afoul of the hearsay rule because that statement wouldn't be hearsay - she's not trying to prove the client was at the Ritz and the instruction wasn't being repeated to establish it's truth, only to prove he said it.

[empedocles]

5. "That dog is just as dangerous dead as alive."

Interesting quote. Hope the quote works here. There is a ton of information, witnesses, and flip potentials.

For openers, the forensics of the death will be very hard to cover up.

[GeorgeGist]

7. Just spitballing ...

Barr will close it down.

[StarfishSaver]

9. He may

But he can't shut down civil suits, court-ordered release of documents, NY state court prosecutions or federal prosecutions of others in a Biden/Harris/Warren/Booker/Klobuchar administratuons.

[Baitball Blogger]

8. Does his lawyer owe him confidentiality with Epstein dead?

[StarfishSaver]

12. To a large extent, yes

[Mc Mike]

13. Hope there's an Epstein Inquiry, where his colleagues, flunkies, and johns are exposed

and imprisoned.

[Duppers]

16. Won't happen while the R's are in power. nt

[yaesu]

19. his case will now be closed, It will be up to grand juries if there will be expanded

investigations in which I doubt.

[StarfishSaver]

24. Grand juries don't decide whether there will be investigations

That's up to the prosecutors.

And that's not limited to federal prosecutors. State prosecutors can also go after people, too.

I suspect that New York State was also looking at him, but opted to stand down in deference to the federal prosecution. If that's the case, they could take this up and go after criminal charges.

[jcgoldie]

14. Kudos for the TKAM quote!

[Delmette2.0]

15. All the blackmail material that Epstein kept...

Can it be used to prosecute others? He held all of that for a reason even if could be called his dying statement.

[steventh]

17. Attorney Lisa Bloom represents victims of Epstein.

On AM Joy this morning attorney Bloom said that she soon will be filing civil complaints on behalf of her client victims.

[Texin]

18. Well, those witnesses/victims may believe they have more to lose by talking now.

As Stalin said, "No man, not problem." Who had the very most to lose by anything Epstein might have agreed to talk about? We know who. And not only does he have a best buddy at DOJ, he's got eager backers in Russia adept at disappearing their opponents.

[RockRaven]

20. Except that Barr will keep whatever evidence the feds have locked up as tight as he can

manage for as long as he can (even when failure is inevitable, Trump's tactic is stall, stall, stall)... This prosecution at least was going to bring some of it out into the light a bit sooner.

[Ligyron]

21. Epstein would probably have just pleaded the 5th anyway.

Not that anyone in the Barr DOJ will ever bring up charges against any Trump associates.

But when we have a Dem DOJ and provided the statues of limitation have not been reached (although some concerning sex crimes have bee eliminated I believe) like you said concerning Epstein's victim's testimony they are: "more likely to talk now that Epstein is longer a perceived threat".

They probably need to be deposed now in case anything happens to them, right? A lot of unfriendly to Pootie folks have been falling out of windows or committing suicide.

[FakeNoose]

22. The wronged parties (the young women) should be able to sue Epstein's estate

Am I right? It seems they've been cheated out of any chance for him to pay damages.

[StarfishSaver]

23. Yep

[Takket]

25. I hope you are right......

it would also stand to reason that there is no cause to "hold back" any evidence now so there can no longer be any concern with tainting a jury pool or ensuring epstein has a fair trial.

I see the russian bot network is trying to pin this as a murder by Hillary Clinton which sets off every warning bell in my mind that this is not good for drumpf and needs to be quickly deflected elsewhere............

[uponit7771]

26. K&R, If Epstein is dead there is a dead mans switch associated with his death. Barr can try

... and hide some ish but he aint hiding all of it.

[DUgosh]

27. My hubs just said

Epstein had items to be mailed to the New York Times upon the event of his mysterious death
( just like in the movies) 😂

[alittlelark]

28. THat has always s been my suspicion as well -

A ‘dead mans switch’.