Jeffrey Epstein Suicide Poll/Discussion

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Why Wasn’t Jeffrey Epstein on Suicide Watch When He Died?

Inmates on suicide watch are generally placed in a special observation cell, surrounded with windows, with a bolted down bed and no bedclothes. A correction officer — or sometimes a fellow inmate trained to be a “suicide companion” — is typically assigned to sit in an adjacent office and monitor the inmate constantly.

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Robert Gangi, an expert on prisons and the former executive director of the Correctional Association of New York, said guards also generally take shoelaces and belts away from people on suicide watch.

“If he’s on suicide watch, it's virtually impossible to kill yourself,” Mr. Gangi said

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-watch.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

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	LIHOP-Let It Happen On Purpose
	3 (38%)
	MIHOP-Made It Happen On Purpose
	5 (63%)
	OTHER
	0 (0%)
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[2naSalit]

1. ?

What's the difference between an orange?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. MIHOP-They Killed Him. LIHOP-They let him kill himself

[cilla4progress]

2. Don't understand

Your poll

[zackymilly]

3. What's LIHOP and MIHOP? I've been to IHOP. n/t

[trueblue2007]

5. IHOP .... i am so hungry right now.

[Codeine]

6. A bunch of nonsense from the 9/11 days

that the CT crowd gets to dust off for recirculation.

[harumph]

8. So, according to you, speculation that all is not as reported - is just crazy talk.

Wow. Mere speculation that this (might) not be a simple suicide sure does seem to
bother you. Comparing it to 911 "truthers" is just ridiculous. So jail cell suicides and/or
coerced suicides don't exist in your mind? That's all this is at this point - speculation.

I think it bears investigating don't you?

[Codeine]

11. My comment was directed at the resurrection

of the ridiculous LIHOP and MIHOP terminologies made infamous in the heady days of “CGI Planes” and chicken-wire skyscraper models.

Anyone who wishes their conspiracy de jour to be taken seriously is well-advised to avoid hitching their wagon to that worn-out draft horse.

[Drunken Irishman]

13. The funny thing is that the left giving credence to the conspiracy theorists will enable the right.

It's different than 9/11 because there was only one person directly implicated by the conspiracy - George W. Bush. They couldn't pin it on Clinton or any other Democrat because Bush was president at the time. Sure, they could fault Clinton for failing to get bin Laden but that wasn't a conspiracy ... that was just criticism of his policies. But supporting the idea that someone was behind the suicide rationalizes the idea ... but there isn't just one option to pin it on. So, you'll have many on the left pin it on Trump and many on the right pin it on the Clintons. But because the left has now rationalized it and pushed the idea that there was a conspiracy, it makes it even more difficult to push back, and deflect, the prevailing conspiracy, which, right now, is that the Clintons did it.

It's stupid. Liberals are inadvertently losing the narrative on this one.

[customerserviceguy]

7. I finally made a choice

after waffling.

[flamingdem]

9. I don't think narcissists kill themselves

so it was probably done for him..

[Drunken Irishman]

10. You start pushing conspiracy theories and you're not going to like which one wins out..

It ain't going to be that Trump orchestrated this one.

The second you give credence to the idea of a conspiracy, you legitimize every conspiracy and the one the right now that seems to be gaining the most traction is that ... the Clintons are responsible for it.

[pintobean]

12. OLPOSOTP

One less piece of shit on the planet.