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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-suicide.htmlJeffrey Epstein Dead in Suicide at Manhattan Jail, Officials Say
Mr. Epstein, the financier indicted on sex trafficking charges, was not under suicide watch at the time of his death.
Last month, a week after being denied bail on federal sex trafficking charges, Mr. Epstein was found unconscious in his cell at the jail with marks on his neck. Prison officials had been investigating that incident as a possible suicide attempt.
Mr. Epstein had been on suicide watch after he was found injured on July 23 and received a daily psychiatric evaluation, according to a person familiar with his detention. He was removed from suicide watch on July 29 and returned to the special housing unit, a segregated area of the prison with extra security, this person said.
The authorities did not immediately explain why he was taken off suicide watch. The F.B.I. said it was investigating, and Attorney General William P. Barr said in a statement that a special inquiry would be opened into what had happened.
ON EDIT:
Thanks to Claritie Pixie, who posted a link to the JD manual on this topic. I hope someone is filing for a FOIA for this required report :
At a minimum, the post-watch report will include:
risk factors assessed,
changes in risk factors since the onset of watch,
reasons for removal from watch, and
follow-up recommendations.
https://www.bop.gov/policy/progstat/5324_008.pdf
dhill926
(16,234 posts)let's hope we get an answer...
world wide wally
(21,719 posts)RKP5637
(67,031 posts)suspect murder ... or a lax environment so he could kill himself. It's all too weird.
rocktivity
(44,555 posts)The suicide of the disgraced financier, who was found dead in his cell on Saturday, raised questions about what steps officials took after an apparent attempt in July.
Inmates can only be removed from the watch when the program coordinator, who is generally the chief psychologist at the facility, deems they are no longer at imminent risk for suicide, according a 2007 Bureau of Prison document outlining suicide prevention policies. The inmates cannot be removed from the watch without a face-to-face evaluation.
If he was placed on suicide watch only six days before, he must have -- or should have -- been evaluated. Sounds like the doctors and prison guards are being set up to take the fall.
rocktivity
Sunsky
(1,737 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)harumph
(1,871 posts)So is it your opinion that jail cell murders do not occur? Are people never coerced into suicide when threatened?
Is all that just "silly speculation?" I know speculation may be taken too far - entering the realm of the absurd - but dismissing out of hand any speculation that there may have been bad actors in this seems disingenuous to me at least.
It seems to me that people in authority get away with terrible shit all the time.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/walterpavlo/2011/08/12/pennsylvania-judge-gets-life-sentence-for-prison-kickback-scheme/#43756c9a4aef
I'm sorry that we can't give the lovely people of the corrections dept the benefit of the doubt. That seems to
hurt you. The shine is coming off many "professionals."
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)pnwmom
(108,925 posts)How could a psychiatrist have determined that a person who had attempted suicide was safe to go off the suicide watch, and be returned to the unit where he had previously attempted suicide, after only 6 days?
And with such a high profile prisoner, I doubt they left the decision up to a single individual. Someone made the decision and someone else approved it.
Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)Who is that person?
DOJ manual for handling suicidal inmates clearly dictates the procedures, who is responsible for them, and that all actions must be documented.
Link to manual:
https://www.bop.gov/policy/progstat/5324_008.pdf
Fishy fishy!
pnwmom
(108,925 posts)Takket
(21,424 posts)destruction.
the wolf is running the hen house
jcgoldie
(11,582 posts)Hillary Clinton.