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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 03:57 PM Aug 2019

Former US Attorney SDNY, Preet Bharara, says there has to be video of Epstein's suicide






Preet Bharara
@PreetBharara
There should be — and almost certainly is — video of Epstein’s suicide at MCC. One hopes it is complete, conclusive, and secured.
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Former US Attorney SDNY, Preet Bharara, says there has to be video of Epstein's suicide (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Aug 2019 OP
Yeah, right. volstork Aug 2019 #1
Cue the eighteen and a half minute gap. WheelWalker Aug 2019 #2
That was SCVDem Aug 2019 #18
Ooops ! Camera malfunction 🙄🙄 nt live love laugh Aug 2019 #40
You'd have thought you'd seen "everything" but, no... WheelWalker Aug 2019 #41
Yeah, they got the guards out of the way but didn't think to turn off the cameras FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #3
Preet Bharara is not a stupid man. mahina Aug 2019 #34
I get that. But I'll be surprised if there's evidence. FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #44
even if it exists, a video of epstein hanging himself proves nothing. Takket Aug 2019 #4
Not necessarily, since he wasn't under suicide watch. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #5
Preet Bharara is remembering the way things used to be. - n/t Jim__ Aug 2019 #6
Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #7
Out of line KT2000 Aug 2019 #16
Whoa. Where did that bile come from? Pacifist Patriot Aug 2019 #17
He knows that this particular prison building has cameras everywhere. Mrs. Overall Aug 2019 #19
ugly......you could have expressed that opinion another way Skittles Aug 2019 #20
Did anyone read Preet's OWN WORDS? He "hopes" video is "secured". BamaRefugee Aug 2019 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Aug 2019 #23
Yes! That's what I thought. Mme. Defarge Aug 2019 #8
It is so unjust that the victims, the nation, and the world bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #9
Too bad all the cameras malfunctioned IronLionZion Aug 2019 #10
Really, really, really doubt it will be informative. . . Mazeltov Cocktail Aug 2019 #11
there are a couple of pics of hospital ER that make me wonder... dixiegrrrrl Aug 2019 #12
Good questions! burrowowl Aug 2019 #25
Is it just me or does his head look huge in the second picture? rzemanfl Aug 2019 #27
Exactly what I was thinking.. Epstein should have already been deceased. triron Aug 2019 #28
Well, medics can't pronounce him dead, only a Dr. can dixiegrrrrl Aug 2019 #36
Information on strangulation. triron Aug 2019 #31
If you look at the second picture, his head actually does look pretty purple and swollen bearsfootball516 Aug 2019 #33
Certainly does. Compare face color with the hands color. LisaL Aug 2019 #37
And neither his face not the visible skin on... 3catwoman3 Aug 2019 #43
Not if he was no longer on suicide watch rocktivity Aug 2019 #13
With the money Epstein had, he could have hired people to break him out of custody LiberalArkie Aug 2019 #14
+1, this is why I said if there's no dead man switch activated then Epstein is alive. There's no uponit7771 Aug 2019 #39
Yeah, but there was this new employee who wasn't completely trained on the protocol japple Aug 2019 #15
And video camera somehow malfunctioned-that would be my bet. LisaL Aug 2019 #32
Is he really dead? SCVDem Aug 2019 #21
Post calling Bahrahra a CT in 5.... 4 .....3 .....2 uponit7771 Aug 2019 #24
There's also video of astronauts waking on the moon. Mr.Bill Aug 2019 #26
First they switched off the cameras... Gumboot Aug 2019 #29
The only thing I absolutely know about this Lulu KC Aug 2019 #30
My head has been wondering since #1 suicide attempt was reported dixiegrrrrl Aug 2019 #38
Good morning, Mr. Phelps. Your mission, should you decide to accept it... nt Buns_of_Fire Aug 2019 #35
Yeah one hopes. Cha Aug 2019 #42
OP headline doesn't match the content. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #45

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
3. Yeah, they got the guards out of the way but didn't think to turn off the cameras
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 04:42 PM
Aug 2019

Everyone that believes that stand on your head

Takket

(21,560 posts)
4. even if it exists, a video of epstein hanging himself proves nothing.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 04:48 PM
Aug 2019

he may have very well been suicidal and was supposedly on a suicide watch at one point.......... so anyone who wanted him dead would only need to get the watch removed and get the materials in place for him to hang himself to essentially murder him.

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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
19. He knows that this particular prison building has cameras everywhere.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:28 PM
Aug 2019

You might want to edit your post.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
22. Did anyone read Preet's OWN WORDS? He "hopes" video is "secured".
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:33 PM
Aug 2019

In my book, security of ANYTHING under the control of William Barr is a fantasy.

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IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
10. Too bad all the cameras malfunctioned
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 04:58 PM
Aug 2019

or Trump's Justice Dept has to keep it classified because reasons. Or something...

Mazeltov Cocktail

(569 posts)
11. Really, really, really doubt it will be informative. . .
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:00 PM
Aug 2019

Can't imagine I'm going to believe anything from the current DOJ.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. there are a couple of pics of hospital ER that make me wonder...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:02 PM
Aug 2019

If it is true he was found dead in jail cell, why isn't his face swollen and purple as is the case of asphyxiation?

and why are his hands clenched, while one forearm is vertical, and outside the rail of the stretcher?
It should be limp, and the hands open and limp.

zoom in.......



picture from NY Post.....https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/photos-show-jeffrey-epstein-as-hes-wheeled-into-downtown-hospital/

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
27. Is it just me or does his head look huge in the second picture?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:43 PM
Aug 2019

Why the sunglasses at that hour? Is that a bulletproof vest on the guy in the hat?

triron

(21,999 posts)
28. Exactly what I was thinking.. Epstein should have already been deceased.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:50 PM
Aug 2019

Something rotten in Denmark.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
36. Well, medics can't pronounce him dead, only a Dr. can
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:53 PM
Aug 2019

and medics are trained to continue cpr right up to the moment ER takes over,
but
prison officials reportedly said he was dead when found.

In both cases, hands should be limp, or so say people who identify as medics.

LiberalArkie

(15,713 posts)
14. With the money Epstein had, he could have hired people to break him out of custody
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:16 PM
Aug 2019

while being transported.

And must have had inside connections at the airport, why didn't anyone inform him that the Feds were waiting for him before he landed?

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
39. +1, this is why I said if there's no dead man switch activated then Epstein is alive. There's no
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:35 PM
Aug 2019

... way Epstein wouldn't have held evidence up against his safety for collateral.

NO WAY

japple

(9,821 posts)
15. Yeah, but there was this new employee who wasn't completely trained on the protocol
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:17 PM
Aug 2019

....and, yeah, he/she's been fired and somehow we can't find out where he/she lives...

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
21. Is he really dead?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:31 PM
Aug 2019

Stick a fork in him.

This could be a drug induced coma to get him out.

I want proof!

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
26. There's also video of astronauts waking on the moon.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:40 PM
Aug 2019

And millions of people don't believe that, either.

Gumboot

(531 posts)
29. First they switched off the cameras...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:57 PM
Aug 2019

... then a Jack Ruby character was let in and out through a back door.

Just a hunch...


Lulu KC

(2,565 posts)
30. The only thing I absolutely know about this
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:58 PM
Aug 2019

is that we will never know what happened to Epstein.

Did he
1. Committ suicide?
2. Get killed by fellow prisoner?
3. Get killed by a prison guard?
4. Get killed by Putin or another hostile foreign government?
5. Not really die and is now on an island off the coast of anywhere-but-here?
6. Not really die and has been moved to a totally different type of imprisoned situation, being tortured to get info about whomever or whatever?

Those are the six that popped into my head this morning. I don't think it will be anything on this list. If Ian Fleming was still alive, he might have the imagination for something that is truly stranger than fiction.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
38. My head has been wondering since #1 suicide attempt was reported
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:57 PM
Aug 2019

I thought immediately of a "deadman's switch"

The kind of thing we have seen in movies where if you let go of button/lever/etc
something explodes. It's what the DC Madame apparently did not have, all she could did was to announce publicly that she would never commit suicide, then was found hanging in her tool shed.

So Epstein had that black book.
and faced a serious trial.
from all accounts he was not stupid, but a lot of powerful people were worried, esp. when the DA found that safe full of dvds, and rumors he had been taping those "massage rooms".

If they had been told he had a switch..a way of publicly releasing his information, maybe it would make more sense to fake the whole suicide bit, esp. after it was known the Judge was gonna release the details of evidence from the first trial.
there was some question of the first attempt, how serious it was or wasn't, but as a set up to a 2nd attempt it worked.
Maybe a body switch worked, certainly not implausible.

I am waiting to hear if the CCTV tape that Pareet Bahara was wondering about actually was working.
Would not be surprised to hear it "malfunctioned" as so very very many recorders of police behavior have been known to do.
also still waiting to hear definitely if he was or was not on suicide watch, and how he managed to hang himself with ....what????

There are so many books gonna be written about these last 5 years...this is a great story no matter how it turns out.





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