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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMany people are noticing whenever any of the testimony of Jeffrey Epstein's victims is released
The one word that always comes up is "Mar-a-lago".
Kid Berwyn
(14,876 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,669 posts)about someone else he suggests would benefit from Epstein's death but who didn't regularly hobnob with Epstein?
More projecting than Bell & Howell.
Kid Berwyn
(14,876 posts)From Elie Honig:
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How will we learn who else was involved in Epstein's alleged sex trafficking ring? First, as the Epstein case proceeds, prosecutors will publicly file papers that refer to other participants. But those references likely will be generic rather than specific; when prosecutors name wrongdoers other than the charged defendant, they typically use labels rather than full names to protect the reputations of uncharged individuals and to maintain confidentiality of the ongoing investigation. For example, in a court filing on Michael Cohen, the Southern District alleged that Cohen acted "in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1" -- immediately identifiable as President Donald Trump. But those generic labels are not always so transparent and could leave us guessing who stands behind them.
If Epstein goes to trial, then the whole story will come out, and names will be named. Though over 95% of federal charges get resolved by guilty plea before trial, this case could be different. I do not expect the Southern District to make Epstein any kind of generous plea offer, particularly given the intense criticism that Acosta faced for letting Epstein off the hook in Florida. Nor do I expect Epstein, who is 66 years old, to take a plea that will keep him locked up for much of the rest of his life.
Trial might be the only way to resolve this case. If that happens, we will get the full story of Epstein's alleged crimes, including the names of any co-conspirators and enablers.
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/opinions/jeffrey-epstein-indictment-tip-iceberg-honig/index.html
bearfan454
(6,697 posts)PatrickforO
(14,570 posts)Or perhaps we should say ignoble as opposed to illustrious. Trump is only the tip of the iceberg. This guy Epstein had the goods on many, many of the rich and powerful, and not a few in politics.
Kid Berwyn
(14,876 posts)From New York magazine:
Name found in Epsteins black book.
Retailing billionaire Leslie Wexner was Epsteins only known client, the man who transferred the rights to that famous townhouse to him for free in 2011, years after they were supposed to no longer be in contact. The relationship stretches back to the late 1980s, a time when Wexners star was on the rise. A 1985 cover story for New York visited him in Columbus, Ohio, where his retail empire was built. Journalist Julie Baumgold described how he, not unlike Epstein, was a self-made man, addicted to self-improvement, how he didnt know how to pronounce La Grenouille correctly and wanted to have his picture taken at the Whitney, and noted that Wexner is what used to be known as a confirmed bachelor. (He later married and has four children.) Not long after that piece, he was introduced to Epstein, who had left Bear Stearns under a cloud and was broke. He and Wexner hit it off, and Epstein soon began managing Wexners finances. Wexners credibility lent plausibility to the notion that Epstein managed billions from his Caribbean-island redoubt. Associates of Wexner, who is now worth $6.6 billion, didnt understand the attraction. Soon after the men began working together, Epstein moved into Wexners Upper East Side mansion. Wexner bought the seven-story townhouse in 1989 for $13.2 million but apparently lived there only for a few months. The title was transferred in 2011 to a Virgin Islands entity controlled by Epstein. It is now worth $56 million. Michelle Celarier and Carl Swanson
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http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-high-society-contacts.html
PandoraAwakened
(905 posts)...the poster children for white, male rapists everywhere.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,430 posts)Trumpy might view YOU as expendable. He has his own henchman as AG, who will obey Trumpy's every command.
Be frightened, kiddies. You never know which itch will have to be scratched.
mitch96
(13,890 posts)Hello, Vladimir? I need a favor.........
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Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)from Pootypoot.
Girard442
(6,069 posts)...the Party of Trump gets a big benefit from the perception that they whacked him to shut him up.
FakeNoose
(32,628 posts)Somehow Bill Barr has remained quietly in the background on this.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Tie up the loose ends.
This entire presidency should be under 24 Hr surveillance. All the players.
This asshole makes Nixon look like a purse snatcher!
BigOleDummy
(2,270 posts)Just by comparison mind you.
Blue Owl
(50,348 posts)A lardo named Donald...
Johnny2X2X
(19,037 posts)Here's the thing, Epstein and his customers were pedos, that is getting de-emphasized at times. Epstein was a billionaire and he had billionaire clients. Epstein could have easily hired 18-20 year old strippers/prostitutes to play the role for he and his guests. It still would have been illegal, but no one would have cared. He certainly could have even found 19 year old models who looked really young. But hat' not what he or his creepy friends wanted, they wanted 14-16 year old girls that they could defile, they were pedophiles, the age of the girls being o young was what got them excited.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Pedophillia refers to pre-pubescent attraction like 9 year olds, hebophillia to mid to late pubescent children 12 to 14 basically, and ephebophillia to children who have reached puberty or 15 to 18 year olds. People seem to use pedophile generically but it's not correct.
If we're going to use a generic term for all of them I'd just call them perverts rather than a psychological term.
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)Not money, not investments, not peeing on a bed but nude pictures, video of tRUMP and underage girls.
tRUMP has bragged about being in the dressing rooms to see young girls changing. (What else hasn't he shared?)
tRUMP knows that his base and rePUBICS don't care about his $ dealings, lies, narcissism but Epstein stuff, that would be a game changer.
IronLionZion
(45,425 posts)the more I suspect Trump was involved. They've projected so much already. It should be investigated to be sure. State level too since Trump controls federal investigations.