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Many people are noticing whenever any of the testimony of Jeffrey Epstein's victims is released (Original Post) Snake Plissken Aug 2019 OP
Many may wonder "Who would benefit from Epstein's death?" Kid Berwyn Aug 2019 #1
And which such person is currently spreading a conspiracy theory The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #2
Consciousness of Guilt Thing Kid Berwyn Aug 2019 #4
The guilty dog always barks first nt bearfan454 Aug 2019 #15
Cui bono indeed. The list is long and illustrious. PatrickforO Aug 2019 #10
Tip of the High Society Iceberg Kid Berwyn Aug 2019 #12
Well, lookee there... PandoraAwakened Aug 2019 #14
Anyone associated with Trumpy: Beware. Eyeball_Kid Aug 2019 #3
"Anyone associated with Trumpy: Beware." mitch96 Aug 2019 #5
I honestly do not believe he is in a postion to ask for favors Ferrets are Cool Aug 2019 #6
Y'know, no matter what DID happen to Epstein... Girard442 Aug 2019 #7
+1 seems intentional, don't you think? FakeNoose Aug 2019 #11
tTump just did what any mob boss would have done. SCVDem Aug 2019 #8
Or a Jaywalker BigOleDummy Aug 2019 #9
Hope this marrs a lardo Blue Owl Aug 2019 #13
They were pedophiles Johnny2X2X Aug 2019 #16
I think the word is ephebophile or hebophile. defacto7 Aug 2019 #19
That's Putin's kompromat! SayItLoud Aug 2019 #17
The more Trumpsters claim Clintons were involved IronLionZion Aug 2019 #18

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
2. And which such person is currently spreading a conspiracy theory
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 10:15 AM
Aug 2019

about someone else he suggests would benefit from Epstein's death but who didn't regularly hobnob with Epstein?

More projecting than Bell & Howell.

Kid Berwyn

(14,876 posts)
4. Consciousness of Guilt Thing
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 10:29 AM
Aug 2019

From Elie Honig:

Excerpt...

How will we learn who else was involved in Epstein's alleged sex trafficking ring? First, as the Epstein case proceeds, prosecutors will publicly file papers that refer to other participants. But those references likely will be generic rather than specific; when prosecutors name wrongdoers other than the charged defendant, they typically use labels rather than full names to protect the reputations of uncharged individuals and to maintain confidentiality of the ongoing investigation. For example, in a court filing on Michael Cohen, the Southern District alleged that Cohen acted "in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1" -- immediately identifiable as President Donald Trump. But those generic labels are not always so transparent and could leave us guessing who stands behind them.

If Epstein goes to trial, then the whole story will come out, and names will be named. Though over 95% of federal charges get resolved by guilty plea before trial, this case could be different. I do not expect the Southern District to make Epstein any kind of generous plea offer, particularly given the intense criticism that Acosta faced for letting Epstein off the hook in Florida. Nor do I expect Epstein, who is 66 years old, to take a plea that will keep him locked up for much of the rest of his life.

Trial might be the only way to resolve this case. If that happens, we will get the full story of Epstein's alleged crimes, including the names of any co-conspirators and enablers.

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/opinions/jeffrey-epstein-indictment-tip-iceberg-honig/index.html


PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
10. Cui bono indeed. The list is long and illustrious.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:52 PM
Aug 2019

Or perhaps we should say ignoble as opposed to illustrious. Trump is only the tip of the iceberg. This guy Epstein had the goods on many, many of the rich and powerful, and not a few in politics.

Kid Berwyn

(14,876 posts)
12. Tip of the High Society Iceberg
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:08 PM
Aug 2019

From New York magazine:

Name found in Epstein’s black book.

Retailing billionaire Leslie Wexner was Epstein’s only known client, the man who transferred the rights to that famous townhouse to him for free in 2011, years after they were supposed to no longer be in contact. The relationship stretches back to the late 1980s, a time when Wexner’s star was on the rise. A 1985 cover story for New York visited him in Columbus, Ohio, where his retail empire was built. Journalist Julie Baumgold described how he, not unlike Epstein, was a self-made man, addicted to self-improvement, how he didn’t know how to pronounce La Grenouille correctly and wanted to have his picture taken at the Whitney, and noted that “Wexner is what used to be known as a ‘confirmed bachelor.’ ” (He later married and has four children.) Not long after that piece, he was introduced to Epstein, who had left Bear Stearns under a cloud and was broke. He and Wexner hit it off, and Epstein soon began managing Wexner’s finances. Wexner’s credibility lent plausibility to the notion that Epstein managed billions from his Caribbean-island redoubt. Associates of Wexner, who is now worth $6.6 billion, didn’t understand the attraction. Soon after the men began working together, Epstein moved into Wexner’s Upper East Side mansion. Wexner bought the seven-story townhouse in 1989 for $13.2 million but apparently lived there only for a few months. The title was transferred in 2011 to a Virgin Islands entity controlled by Epstein. It is now worth $56 million. —Michelle Celarier and Carl Swanson

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http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-high-society-contacts.html

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
3. Anyone associated with Trumpy: Beware.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 10:22 AM
Aug 2019

Trumpy might view YOU as expendable. He has his own henchman as AG, who will obey Trumpy's every command.

Be frightened, kiddies. You never know which itch will have to be scratched.

Girard442

(6,069 posts)
7. Y'know, no matter what DID happen to Epstein...
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 11:57 AM
Aug 2019

...the Party of Trump gets a big benefit from the perception that they whacked him to shut him up.

FakeNoose

(32,628 posts)
11. +1 seems intentional, don't you think?
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:58 PM
Aug 2019

Somehow Bill Barr has remained quietly in the background on this.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
8. tTump just did what any mob boss would have done.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:19 PM
Aug 2019

Tie up the loose ends.

This entire presidency should be under 24 Hr surveillance. All the players.

This asshole makes Nixon look like a purse snatcher!

Johnny2X2X

(19,037 posts)
16. They were pedophiles
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 08:57 AM
Aug 2019

Here's the thing, Epstein and his customers were pedos, that is getting de-emphasized at times. Epstein was a billionaire and he had billionaire clients. Epstein could have easily hired 18-20 year old strippers/prostitutes to play the role for he and his guests. It still would have been illegal, but no one would have cared. He certainly could have even found 19 year old models who looked really young. But hat' not what he or his creepy friends wanted, they wanted 14-16 year old girls that they could defile, they were pedophiles, the age of the girls being o young was what got them excited.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
19. I think the word is ephebophile or hebophile.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:31 AM
Aug 2019

Pedophillia refers to pre-pubescent attraction like 9 year olds, hebophillia to mid to late pubescent children 12 to 14 basically, and ephebophillia to children who have reached puberty or 15 to 18 year olds. People seem to use pedophile generically but it's not correct.

If we're going to use a generic term for all of them I'd just call them perverts rather than a psychological term.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
17. That's Putin's kompromat!
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:05 AM
Aug 2019

Not money, not investments, not peeing on a bed but nude pictures, video of tRUMP and underage girls.
tRUMP has bragged about being in the dressing rooms to see young girls changing. (What else hasn't he shared?)

tRUMP knows that his base and rePUBICS don't care about his $ dealings, lies, narcissism but Epstein stuff, that would be a game changer.

IronLionZion

(45,425 posts)
18. The more Trumpsters claim Clintons were involved
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:35 AM
Aug 2019

the more I suspect Trump was involved. They've projected so much already. It should be investigated to be sure. State level too since Trump controls federal investigations.

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