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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,316 posts)
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 08:17 AM Aug 2019

The Completely Predictable Death of Jeffrey Epstein

https://newrepublic.com/article/154729/completely-predictable-death-jeffrey-epstein

The reported suicide on Saturday of disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein in a federal jail cell in the heart of Manhattan was both utterly shocking and completely predictable. It’s shocking that the Bureau of Prisons was unable to keep Epstein alive pending his federal sex trafficking trial and that jail officials, knowing the world was watching this case so closely, allowed his death even after Epstein’s apparent failed attempt to take his own life three weeks ago. That’s negligence by definition, whether the celebrity defendant was placed on or taken off “suicide watch.”
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But inmate suicides are such a regular part of life in American prisons and jails that none of us should be surprised whenever they occur. They are the leading cause of death behind bars, and have been for many years, and the problem seems to be getting worse. The latest statistics, from 2014, tell us the rate of suicides in jails was the highest it’s been since at least 2000. This even though there is more public awareness surrounding the phenomenon and a cry for better records (and details) about the number of suicides that take place each year.

Inmates suicides are an epidemic corrections officials won’t talk about. The deaths transcend race and geography. They occur, as we saw with Epstein, in federal jails in a big city and they occur in lonely rural prisons. They occur where a pretrial detainee has been jailed just days earlier, as was the case with Sandra Bland in Texas, and they occur where a convicted prisoner has been left to languish for months or years in solitary confinement. Not every suicide can be prevented, of course, but scores of inmates could be saved every year if corrections officials would just earnestly protect those in their custody and control.

These deaths occur not just because guards are poorly trained and jails understaffed, or because often the procedures in place to protect suicidal inmates are woefully outdated and inadequate. The biggest problem is one of attitude. Inmates are able to commit suicide because their guards have dehumanized them to the point where they don’t care enough whether they live or die. Epstein’s death reminded me of the remorseless, cruel attitude that allows inmates to be kept shackled even in death, when they leave for the local morgue.
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flotsam

(3,268 posts)
7. This New Republic story is total bullshit
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:18 PM
Aug 2019

Yesterday I did a little studying to refute a poster who wrote that almost all child molesters left prison in a body bag. While I'm sure there are state to state variations I used California as my model and found the following:In California that year (early 2000's) 1300 child molesters were incarcerated. In a similar year I found the overview on California's prison deaths. Average prison population is 130K. In 2017 inmate deaths totaled 388. Top three causes were cancer, heart disease, and liver failure accounting for over 200 deaths. Suicide came in sixth with 31 deaths followed by homicides at 19 deaths. So the much overblown claims of murders and suicides run rampant in reality is just over 1/8th of prison deaths. Even if every murder and suicide the victim was a pedophile that would be about a 4% mortality rate for the group that year.
In general pedophiles are not as endangered as the tv or rumors would indicate:"The mistreatment of molesters in prison, however, is often exaggerated. Despite a handful of high-profile murders, like those of Jeffrey Dahmer and Father John Geoghan, relatively few child molesters are killed. California sends about 1,300 people to jail every year for sexual abuse of a minor. Only 11 people die annually from assaults in California prisons, and few of them are convicted molesters. Criminologists say that many child molesters assimilate into prison society perfectly well, even if their fellow inmates know what they did. It’s often a question of making friends in the right gang—usually based on your race or which county you’re from—and relying on their protection.


https://cchcs.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/60/MS/2017-Inmate-Death-Reviews.pdf

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2011/11/jerry-sandusky-out-on-bail-are-child-molesters-tormented-in-american-prisons.html

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
9. The Federal system does not operate any jails...
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:07 PM
Aug 2019

"The Metropolitan Correctional Center, New York (MCC New York) is a United States federal administrative detention facility in Manhattan, New York which holds male and female prisoners of all security levels. It is operated by the Federal Bureau of Prisons, a division of the United States Department of Justice."

"The Los Angeles Times stated that the prison is often referred to as the "Guantanamo of New York", and The New York Times stated that its administrative segregation units had severe security measures."

"The Federal Bureau of Prisons classifies prisons into several categories:

United States Penitentiaries
Federal correctional institutions
Private correctional institutions
Federal prison camps
Administrative facilities
Federal correctional complexes[1]
Former Federal facilities"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Correctional_Center,_New_York


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_prisons


WhiskeyGrinder

(22,316 posts)
10. The Metropolitan Correctional Center's role is essentially a federal jail -- with "jail" being the
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:11 PM
Aug 2019

understanding that it's a place where people are held while awaiting trial.

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
11. Suicide is the leading cause of death in LOCAL JAILS
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:20 PM
Aug 2019

Which is not where Epstein was held.
" Suicide and heart disease
have been the top two causes of death in local jails
since 2000 (figure 1). Suicide has been the leading
cause of death in jails every year since 2000. "

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/mljsp0013st.pdf

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