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"Give me your tired and your poor who can stand on their own two feet" (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2019 OP
I wake up feeling depressed as soon as I realize it is still the era of RW Trumpist cruelty... hlthe2b Aug 2019 #1
2017-2021; An American Anomaly Dennis Donovan Aug 2019 #4
and your western Europeans, preferably from Sweeden or Norway. Raven Aug 2019 #2
The public charge thing was always there treestar Aug 2019 #3
That is neither logical or practical. procon Aug 2019 #5
Weren't those in Mississippi standing on there own 2 feet?... lame54 Aug 2019 #6
We're going to spend decades Codeine Aug 2019 #7
very few of the people in question apply for assistance anyway librechik Aug 2019 #8
BBC says: EX500rider Aug 2019 #10
This is nothing misanthrope Aug 2019 #9
My grandfather's uncle was turned away/deported for Likely To Be A Charge LeftInTX Aug 2019 #11

hlthe2b

(102,230 posts)
1. I wake up feeling depressed as soon as I realize it is still the era of RW Trumpist cruelty...
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:43 AM
Aug 2019

even if I've slept well, it doesn't take long for those feelings to again wash over.

2021 can not come quickly enough. I always thought to wish ill on others was at a minimum "bad karma." I can't say, with respect to Trump and several of his henchmen that admonishment comes to mind much at all.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
4. 2017-2021; An American Anomaly
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 10:04 AM
Aug 2019

A programming error.

I find myself angry, not depressed, when I see American citizens openly supporting a person (using "person" loosely in this case) who has SHOWN himself to be a weak and ineffective leader against our adversaries, all because Faux News tells them to.

There's two houses, between my home and the marina where I keep my boat, that are flying TRUMP 2020 flags, yet not the American Flag. In Germany, up to 1933, this was their flag:



Once an ill Hindenburg named Hitler Chancellor, this piece-of-shit flag was fast-tracked as the new German National flag:


Before 1933, it was only the Nazi Party flag.

Anyhow, when I drive by the Trump flags, I beep and flip them off every time. They're swastikas to me...

treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. The public charge thing was always there
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:52 AM
Aug 2019

if you go to Ellis Island, there is a section of the museum on it.

But it was interpreted reasonably. The Dotard is straining it with the specific goal of cutting the number of legal immigrants.

If Miller has his way, it will be "don't send anybody, not even geniuses."

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. That is neither logical or practical.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 11:10 AM
Aug 2019

Trump is saying that regardless of how diligently an immigrant works, if they become ill or injured or old or need to provide care to a family member, and become unable to work then he will deport them.

It is an impossible situation intended to shut the door on all foreigners trying to immigrate to the U.S..

lame54

(35,285 posts)
6. Weren't those in Mississippi standing on there own 2 feet?...
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 11:25 AM
Aug 2019

Or does being employed by another not count

Do you have to be self sufficient or be your own boss to qualify?

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
7. We're going to spend decades
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 11:29 AM
Aug 2019

cleaning up the mess these assholes are making. They know this, and they enjoy it.

EX500rider

(10,839 posts)
10. BBC says:
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:41 PM
Aug 2019

"Who will be affected by the new rule?
Immigrants who are already permanent residents in the US are unlikely to be affected by the rule change.

It also does not apply to refugees and asylum applicants.

But applicants for visa extensions, green cards or US citizenship will be subject to the change.

Those who do not meet income standards or who are deemed likely to rely on benefits such as Medicaid (government-run healthcare) or housing vouchers in future may be blocked from entering the country.

Those already in the US could also have their applications rejected.

An estimated 22 million legal residents in the US are without citizenship, and many of these are likely to be affected."




https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49323324

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
9. This is nothing
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:39 PM
Aug 2019

Wait until you see what happens when climate change wreaks its full havoc on Central America and Mexico.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
11. My grandfather's uncle was turned away/deported for Likely To Be A Charge
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:13 PM
Aug 2019

I don't know what happened to him. He arrived from Argentina. (He was Armenian, not Argentinian)


He somehow managed to enter the country, then disappeared.

Who knows where he went.

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