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MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:34 PM Aug 2019

So, How Far Will Trump Have Set Us Back in Four Years?

I think that's a question that's worth discussing, he snuck into the White House, for reasons we've been arguing about since the 2016 election. Maybe if we discuss how much that will have cost us by the end of 2020, we'll better understand how important it is to win the 2020 election at all levels.

How much will our lack of vision and party solidarity have cost us?

I'll start:

1. We have set back the nation by allowing a conservative majority to become firmly established in the Supreme Court.
2. Voter intimidation and voter registration shenanigans have taken root and become established.
3. Our economy is in deep, deep trouble.
4. Our international relationships are strained to the breaking point.
5. Rights of many groups of citizens are in danger of being damaged beyond immediate repair.

Party Unity. We are going to desperately need that.

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So, How Far Will Trump Have Set Us Back in Four Years? (Original Post) MineralMan Aug 2019 OP
I'm older than you and I'll never see the damage completely undone. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2019 #1
So I fear, too. MineralMan Aug 2019 #2
He's just getting warmed up... lame54 Aug 2019 #3
Oh, yes. He's got a "scorched Earth" plan we've only MineralMan Aug 2019 #6
So much that the GOP will be able to blame all of our woes on the next guy/woman. Initech Aug 2019 #4
The hatred he encouraged between Americans will not be fixed kairos12 Aug 2019 #5
I don't recognize the place now... stillcool Aug 2019 #7
I shudder to think... The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #8
Plus, he is in a position to do even more damage as his MineralMan Aug 2019 #9
Its an unmitigated disaster in almost every direction you can look. ooky Aug 2019 #10
About my lifetime. I'm 71 and he's taking us back to sinkingfeeling Aug 2019 #11

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
2. So I fear, too.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:42 PM
Aug 2019

We made an enormous mistake. The final cost of that mistake will not be known for years.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
6. Oh, yes. He's got a "scorched Earth" plan we've only
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:46 PM
Aug 2019

seen the beginning of so far. If he thinks he will lose, he'll ramp it up even further, too.

Initech

(100,038 posts)
4. So much that the GOP will be able to blame all of our woes on the next guy/woman.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:45 PM
Aug 2019

And they'll get away with it scot free, ensuring that they will elect someone much scarier than Trump in 2024 and beyond, and they will get exactly what they want.

kairos12

(12,842 posts)
5. The hatred he encouraged between Americans will not be fixed
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:46 PM
Aug 2019

in my lifetime. A country of walled communities and walled ideas.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
7. I don't recognize the place now...
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:53 PM
Aug 2019

it's beyond my comprehension. Hopefully, good will come out of the ashes.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
8. I shudder to think...
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:54 PM
Aug 2019

The environmental damage and the refusal to address climate change might be irreparable. The gutting of the federal agencies and the loss of the knowledge and expertise of people who left those agencies - especially State, EPA, Energy and Agriculture - will take years to repair. It will take many years to regain the trust of other governments of countries that are (or used to be) our allies. White supremacy and other forms of bigotry have been empowered, and I don't know what it will take, or how long, to beat that back. It took only three years to turn the US into the beginnings of a shithole country and I still have trouble believing how so much damage has been done so quickly.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
9. Plus, he is in a position to do even more damage as his
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:55 PM
Aug 2019

time approaches its end. We are going to dearly regret what happened in 2016. I hope we learn from it. If we do not, we are truly screwed.

ooky

(8,908 posts)
10. Its an unmitigated disaster in almost every direction you can look.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 04:02 PM
Aug 2019

4 years lost toward saving our planet from climate deterioration.
Another 4 years of decaying infrastucture.
4 years of ballooning deficits and debt.
Lost trade contracts to be backfilled.
Thousands of deaths from lack of health care progress and further gutting of ACA.
More wealth transfer to the rich.
Worsening immigration conditions.
Gun proliferation and increasing rate of gun massacres.
Rising hatred, and the nation at each others throats. Break ups of families and friendships.

I can't think of one good thing that has happened, and we haven't completed 3 years of him yet.

sinkingfeeling

(51,438 posts)
11. About my lifetime. I'm 71 and he's taking us back to
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 05:41 PM
Aug 2019

pollution, killing the environment, women having no reproductive rights, and putting LGBTQ people back in the closet, and undoing any progress made in race relations.

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