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Two Philly officers baricaded inside on 2nd floor of house. Shooter(s) on first floor. (Original Post) applegrove Aug 2019 OP
It just never stops bdamomma Aug 2019 #1
I think it will help dems win. Then they'll do an assault rifle ban. Don't know why applegrove Aug 2019 #2
Because a lot of them are violent, angry people with white supremacist sympathies. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #3
Those are the bad apples. Not the real professionals. applegrove Aug 2019 #8
No true Scotsman, eh? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #10
There seems to be a culture among police officers to keep their mouths shut Blue_true Aug 2019 #18
Tonight the officers in charge came out forcefully against these guns on the street and we need to UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #21
The smart ones know that high powered weapons in the hands of anyone endanger them. Blue_true Aug 2019 #22
Probably because a lot of them are gun owners and members. grumpyduck Aug 2019 #4
+1 applegrove Aug 2019 #6
The dude shot at them through the floor/ceiling. BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #5
No Johnny2X2X Aug 2019 #14
No. A handgun will punch through several walls and keep going. NutmegYankee Aug 2019 #16
No Fla_Democrat Aug 2019 #17
heavy rain expected soon per cnn GreatCaesarsGhost Aug 2019 #7
It's the perfect situation for President Trump to run into! struggle4progress Aug 2019 #9
Oh my. That cuts the tension. applegrove Aug 2019 #12
I pointed out yesterday that 3 days after a Trump rally in PA we had the Dayton shooter Runningdawg Aug 2019 #11
This was a drug operation. Obviously automatic gunfire is dangerous applegrove Aug 2019 #13
He was on the other end of PA spinbaby Aug 2019 #19
... mcar Aug 2019 #15
The police chief and other officials just spoke the press. Central was we need to get these guns UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #20

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
2. I think it will help dems win. Then they'll do an assault rifle ban. Don't know why
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:53 PM
Aug 2019

police are not against the NRA.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,327 posts)
10. No true Scotsman, eh?
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:24 PM
Aug 2019

For as many bad apples as there are, I'm unimpressed with the supposedly "good" ones.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. There seems to be a culture among police officers to keep their mouths shut
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:56 PM
Aug 2019

about wrongdoing among them. Even good police officers seem to clamp up. I believe the majority of police officers are decent people that are trying to do their job, it is just the bad and angry ones have the good ones and us by the throats.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
21. Tonight the officers in charge came out forcefully against these guns on the street and we need to
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:08 PM
Aug 2019

do something about this quickly.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. The smart ones know that high powered weapons in the hands of anyone endanger them.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:20 PM
Aug 2019

Gun control won't prevent people from getting the weapons, but it will insure that the weapons get taken away from them. Everyday people that like guns think they can stand against an assault weapon with a sidearm, if 6 trained police officers are taken out and two others are trapped (and I assume armed with pistols), why would an everyday Joe or Jane think they can stand up to a maniac with high powered weapons?

grumpyduck

(6,232 posts)
4. Probably because a lot of them are gun owners and members.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:58 PM
Aug 2019

I'm sure a lot of them are against what the NRA has turned into, but peer pressure can be very powerful.

Johnny2X2X

(19,049 posts)
14. No
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:29 PM
Aug 2019

What TV gets wrong is what they show stops billets. If it’s a rifle it goes through floors and walls easily. Some weapons will go through concrete. Also, a standard car doesn’t have many parts that stop bullets.

A big reason why a lot of people use a shotgun for home defense is that bird shot will not easily penetrate a wall. These assault rifles cut right through walls, use one for home defense and you risk killing your family or neighbor.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
16. No. A handgun will punch through several walls and keep going.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:43 PM
Aug 2019

A rifle has even more velocity. Even a shotgun with buckshot will go right through and be deadly.

struggle4progress

(118,280 posts)
9. It's the perfect situation for President Trump to run into!
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:19 PM
Aug 2019

"I’d run in there even if I didn’t have a weapon"

Go show us, tiger!

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
11. I pointed out yesterday that 3 days after a Trump rally in PA we had the Dayton shooter
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:27 PM
Aug 2019

and made the prediction the next shooting would be in the same town as the next rally - He was in PA yesterday.

spinbaby

(15,088 posts)
19. He was on the other end of PA
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:15 PM
Aug 2019

Pittsburgh and Philly may as well be in separate states for all we have to do with each other.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
20. The police chief and other officials just spoke the press. Central was we need to get these guns
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:06 PM
Aug 2019

and magazines off of the streets. They were pissed and disgusted. Calling out the NRA and 'others'.

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