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There were reportedly multiple bones broken in Jeffrey Epstein's neck, an autopsy found, including one called the hyoid, which sometimes breaks during strangulation in homicides.
According to The Washington Post, the office of New York City's Chief Medical Examiner Barbara Sampson completed an autopsy of Epstein's body Sunday, but listed the cause of death as pending.
Epstein, 66, was a wealthy, well-connected financier indicted on sex trafficking charges over the alleged abuse of multiple minors for several years. While awaiting trial at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, Epstein died in an apparent suicide by hanging on Saturday.
He had already been found in his cell two weeks previously barely conscious and with marks on his neck in what appeared to be a suicide attempt. He was placed on suicide watch for several days before being taken off, deemed no longer to be a threat to himself.
A New York Times report said the two guards responsible for checking on Epstein every 30 minutes on Saturday had fallen asleep for three hours and then falsified records to cover it up. It appears that during this window Epstein took his own life.
Epstein's death and its curious circumstances triggered conspiracy theories that he was murdered for posing a threat to powerful people he knew, including royalty, former presidents, and celebrities, some of whom are also accused of sexual abuse by his alleged victim
https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-autopsy-neck-hyoid-bone-broken-suicide-homicide-1454457
912gdm
(959 posts)mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Read it! The information is worth your time. PEACE!
912gdm
(959 posts)on one of the numerous posted threads discussing the same bit of information. But, I look at what's posted so I don't make the same OP, and I defiantly don't post a header in ALL CAPS..
peace.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:12 AM - Edit history (1)
one here for a little while.
M$Greedia is discussing this as well - thanks for your post
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,664 posts)You may be right for you, but I dont get real defiant over all caps, definitely over MAGA caps though.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)I must say that the headline contents, the news that it provides was what caught my eye...funny, didn't realize it was in uppercase, thanks for pointing it out, not that it matters, but funny how little things like that miss the eye...
struggle4progress
(118,237 posts)barbtries
(28,774 posts)would that make us officially a banana republic?
tymorial
(3,433 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)This is not exclusive of Banana Republics...but it does support many of the theories surrounding his death. I personally don't believe he committed suicide. Didn't someone try to kill him earlier and they also attributed it to "possible suicide attempt"? People like Epstein are too much in love with themselves, they are usually cowards who will not even think of suicide.
Maru Kitteh
(28,326 posts)COULD HAVE POSSIBLY GUESSED SUCH A THING? IT'S SO CRAZY SUSPICIOUS THAT AN ASPHYXIATION DEATH WOULD, YOU KNOW - HAVE ACTUAL SIGNS OF ASPHYXIATION???????? MAYBE THEY TOOK HIS BODY DOUBLE TO AREA 51, TOO!!!!!!!!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)LisaL
(44,972 posts)So of course multiple bone breaks in the neck (which would take a lot of force) don't raise any suspicions. All righty then.
elias7
(3,991 posts)The hyoid would not break without significant force, ie being dropped from a height in a hanging or from strangulation by someone elses hands. Self-hanging from a low height or leaning kneel would not likely cause this injury. It is suspicious.
The Blue Flower
(5,434 posts)Cutting off the flow of air through the windpipe in itself doesn't break the hyoid.
phylny
(8,368 posts)side by yourself if you know where it is.
cstanleytech
(26,248 posts)in the struggle he breaks his own neck leading to his death and then he stages it as suicide.
certainot
(9,090 posts)responsible for not arranging that in the beginning but good luck to us on that.
epstien would have been told by his lawyers he was going to jail for life and might have gotten to play tennis if he squealed - but if he did squeal someone would eventually strangle him. so he had plenty to kill himself over.
on the other hand, if the message sent by those who arranged whitey bulger's murder wasn't enough, all the uncertainty on epstien will help keep others quiet.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)Not checking on him every 30 minutes as they were supposed to, leaving him alone in the cell without a cellmate.
certainot
(9,090 posts)should have been a few extra people to monitor the monitors
ashredux
(2,599 posts)Facts:
1. Bill Barr is connected to Jeffrey Epstein via his father.
2. The Florida newspaper started running their stories about the old Epsteins case in Nov. 2018
3. The entire sordid mess is back.
4. Bill Barrs auditionmemo to Trump for the job of Attorney General in June 2018
5. After Bill Barr becomes attorney general, Jeffrey Epstein gets arrested and put in jail.
6. Now Jeffrey Epstein is dead with Broken Bones in his neck!
Folks....a lot of Dots popping up
sinkingfeeling
(51,438 posts)like deliberate wording to support RW conspiracy.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Hyoids break with force. A low hang also is more like a suffocation than a typical hanging where force of falling and snatching into the ligature break smaller neck bones and strangle the victim.
This argues against a self strangulation "low hang"
LisaL
(44,972 posts)From the reports I have read, he was kneeling forward with the noose made out of bed sheet.
So we are not talking about your regular hanging suicide. Yet multiple bones were broken in his neck?
Vinca
(50,237 posts)I heard the ceiling was only 8 ft. high. The autopsy makes the death more suspicious than before.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)I wouldn't know how to do it.
Firestorm49
(4,030 posts)is about as likely as seeing the unredacted Mueller report.
There was a post on DU about a prisoner who heard Barr was at the prison prior to Epsteins untimely demise, and that other prisoners were removed from the block during the encounter. Is there any media that would be inclined to check this out? It sounds like BS but is it worth investigating?
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,568 posts)1. Falling asleep on the job - bad.
2. Falling asleep on the job when a prisoner kills himself - worse.
3. Falling asleep on the job when the highest profile prisoner in America kills himself - priceless.
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)know whose was the body she performed this autopsy on? Who identified it?
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)elocs
(22,550 posts)But I'm betting the death will be ruled suicide and Epstein's body will be quickly cremated.