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aggiesal

(8,910 posts)
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:17 AM Aug 2019

Koch Brothers are coming after Social Security AGAIN!!!

Just got this letter;
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The Koch brothers recently rolled out their latest campaign to destroy our Social Security system, partnering with tax scam architect Stephen Moore to renew a push for privatization.

But a new book just revealed that their methods are even more insidious: The Koch Brothers have been secretly funding so-called “centrist” think tank Third Way, who have spent years aiming to erode Democrats’ commitment to Social Security.

Third Way has long been called a Wall Street front-group, as they’ve spent decades scaremongering about the deficit and pursuing benefit cuts. But being on the Koch payroll is a whole different ballgame.

The Koch brothers, ideological billionaires who have spent decades corrupting our public institutions and paving the way for Republicans, have had their sights set on Social Security for a long time. They proudly fund right-wing think tanks like the Cato Institute and the Heritage Foundation to create an echo chamber of poisonous, anti-government ideas. Having Third Way in their pocket makes them all the more dangerous.

In retrospect, Third Way’s secret Koch affiliation should have been obvious. In 2012, they published an Op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, criticizing Elizabeth Warren for leading the fight to expand Social Security. We led protests on Third Way’s offices, where Matt Bennett admitted that they don’t have grassroots support.

As the Koch brothers gear up for another assault on Social Security, we need to band together as a movement, and not be divided by Koch-funded concern trolling from our so-called allies.

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Koch Brothers are coming after Social Security AGAIN!!! (Original Post) aggiesal Aug 2019 OP
Kick dalton99a Aug 2019 #1
It has always struck me as funny how much attention George Soros gets genxlib Aug 2019 #2
Projection...it's what they do... Wounded Bear Aug 2019 #3
the kochs have 1500 radio stations to call soros an evil liberal jew funding certainot Aug 2019 #18
Follow Social Security Works and get the FACTs here: CousinIT Aug 2019 #4
+1000 KPN Aug 2019 #7
Agreed. Candidates must give Specific answers about Social Security. MarcA Aug 2019 #21
Aren't the Koch Brothers dead yet? FakeNoose Aug 2019 #5
Not yet but there grooming this "guy".......................... turbinetree Aug 2019 #11
If things break down, I doubt that fat thief would last very long. n/t MarcA Aug 2019 #22
They continue to live . . . RVN VET71 Aug 2019 #15
You beat me to it. I was going to post the exact same thing. Meadowoak Aug 2019 #30
David Kock just passed away about a week ago n/t aggiesal Aug 2019 #38
I'm sure his surviving brother hasn't given up on it Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2019 #41
Which group sent the letter? hedda_foil Aug 2019 #6
Social Security Works n/t aggiesal Aug 2019 #33
Letter from who? Source? KPN Aug 2019 #8
Social Security Works n/t aggiesal Aug 2019 #34
Why? Why destroy SS? ashredux Aug 2019 #9
That is what I want to know? smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #10
They actually don't want to take it away, ... aggiesal Aug 2019 #35
They don't need more money, but they want slaves FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #13
All of it. Johnyawl Aug 2019 #14
Do they even realize how much money they already make from Meadowoak Aug 2019 #32
Also not fooled Aug 2019 #17
kochs, like putin and the gop get a LOT of free help on talk radio and certainot Aug 2019 #12
They have said they will for as long as they breathe. ancianita Aug 2019 #16
The DNC Needs to target Red States with this information and frame it Scalded Nun Aug 2019 #19
The good news is... jmbar2 Aug 2019 #20
Yeah, but they've got kids and grandkids with fat trust funds. Texin Aug 2019 #28
It doesn't mean that the heirs will have the same fanatical devotion to the cause. jmbar2 Aug 2019 #36
You are right. It isnt uncommon for kids whose parents have money to squander it Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #37
David Koch just passed away about a week ago. n/t aggiesal Aug 2019 #39
Third Way, Heritage Foundation, Kochs et al are true enemies of the People. MarcA Aug 2019 #23
The Koch Bros are like a real life version of Mr. Burns. Initech Aug 2019 #24
On 7/30, every Democratic Senator signed a Resolution calling for Democracy for All Amendment Ponietz Aug 2019 #25
ya gotta be some sick bastards onethatcares Aug 2019 #26
Democrats and Social Security privatization people Aug 2019 #27
Are the Kochs the same family who runs that Mississippi packing plant that was raided last week? Texin Aug 2019 #29
No AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #31
even from beyond the grave they can torment us 0rganism Aug 2019 #40
Remember too Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2019 #42
Who needs Putin? We have our own American Oligarchs undermining our country. jalan48 Aug 2019 #43

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
2. It has always struck me as funny how much attention George Soros gets
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:26 AM
Aug 2019

If he actually funded half of what they said he did, then the left wing would be rolling in the dough.

Meanwhile, these guys are really the ones seeking to buy democracy.

I would love to see a legit side-by-side comparison some day.

Wounded Bear

(58,634 posts)
3. Projection...it's what they do...
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:29 AM
Aug 2019

Accusing "evil liberals" of the same bullshit they're doing all the time.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
18. the kochs have 1500 radio stations to call soros an evil liberal jew funding
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:46 PM
Aug 2019

the obama clinton deep state coup (really, 2 years of that at least), while their think tanks get to coordinate and use those stations on the local level to deregulate environmental and monopoly laws and sell their legislation - all basically for free while piggybacking university and pro sports many of those station depend on to pay for it. if they were going to pay $1000/hr 1200 stations x 15 hrsx 5 days/week = about $5BIL/year FREE for corporate, koch, putin, GOP, coc interests

all americans have to do to end the koch trump nightmares is to boycott and protest those radio stations and the 88 universities that support them until the ad industry has to start asking clients if they really actually want to support billionaire assholes. their most important tool - the monopoly that liberals ignore, will fall apart

CousinIT

(9,238 posts)
4. Follow Social Security Works and get the FACTs here:
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 12:03 PM
Aug 2019
https://socialsecurityworks.org/faq/

Support Social Security Works PAC

and/or

DEMAND answers of every Dem candidate: 1) Will you work to PROTECT social security from ANY cuts or privatization; 2) Will you work to EXPAND social security rather than cutting it?

Social Security Works website: https://socialsecurityworks.org/

Twitter: @SSWorks

They're on Facebook too but I'm not so also look for them there!

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
21. Agreed. Candidates must give Specific answers about Social Security.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:59 PM
Aug 2019

Also, what are their stands on Means Testing. While their at it
they can explain their views on Medicare as well.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
15. They continue to live . . .
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:29 PM
Aug 2019

. . .sustaining themselves on the broken dreams and lost hopes of the working class.

Also the blood of infants.

Meadowoak

(5,545 posts)
30. You beat me to it. I was going to post the exact same thing.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:32 PM
Aug 2019

The Kochs' have to be at least 100 by now.

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
6. Which group sent the letter?
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 12:26 PM
Aug 2019

It's interesting that many of us here on DU pegged the Koch affiliation of the DLC way, way, way back -- as early as 2003 -- and knew from the start that Third Way was just a front for corporate interests, which always means the brothers Koch.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. That is what I want to know?
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:24 PM
Aug 2019

What is the point for them? Cruelty? We pay into this via our payroll taxes, why do they want to take this benefit away from hard-working Americans? Don't they have enough already? People deserve to have some security in old age when they are no longer employable or can no longer work due to illness or infirmity.

What the hell is wrong with these people? Why are they so hell bent on getting their hands on this money that doesn't belong to them? I really think it is long past time to bring back this:

aggiesal

(8,910 posts)
35. They actually don't want to take it away, ...
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:29 PM
Aug 2019

they want private entities to control it (i.e. Wall St. Banks).
Get it out of the efficient hands of the Government.

They want to get their greedy little hands on all that money coming from
everyone in the country. It's a spigot that doesn't turn off.
Then they will fee the program to death to suck out money from our accounts.

This is their end goal.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
13. They don't need more money, but they want slaves
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:26 PM
Aug 2019

And the only way to get slaves is to impoverish or otherwise disempower a group of people until they have no other choice but to act as slaves.

Taking away civil rights and living wages is the point of the exercise for these rich fucks.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
17. Also
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:42 PM
Aug 2019

they don't want the populace perceiving the government as a force for good, which is exactly what Social Security, Medicare, etc. do. Hence, they want to destroy these programs.

The vast majority of MAGAts and other pukes have no idea this plot is ongoing. Also, many have bought into the con that these programs are failing, going bankrupt, etc. instead of understanding that periodic adjustments keep them robust.

Note that one of red don's biggest cons during the campaign was to blare that he would protect SS and Medicare. He knows these programs are hugely popular. If he gets back in for another 4 years. it'll instead be their death knell. As are the 666kook's666 plans to re-write the Constitution to prohibit such programs.



 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
12. kochs, like putin and the gop get a LOT of free help on talk radio and
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:26 PM
Aug 2019

those stations have been blasting the country for 30 years with anti and privitization social security lies.

another reason it's nuts for liberals not to push 88 universities to stop broadcasting sports on 260 limbaugh stations

take the gun issue - and the recent pittsburg event, where 14 limbaugh stations depend on Penn St. 11, Pittsburgh 2, Temple 1 to keep bringing in advertisers to pay for their NRA love and excuses for semioutomatics

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
19. The DNC Needs to target Red States with this information and frame it
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:51 PM
Aug 2019

in ways Red States understand, much like the RNC did to the ACA.

They killed your farms and now are coming for your 'Money Poke' or even just 'Poke'. Ratchet it all up and don't let up.

Don't lecture or be informative. That does not work with these people.

jmbar2

(4,871 posts)
20. The good news is...
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:53 PM
Aug 2019

Charles Koch is 84, and David is 79. They'll be taking the dirt nap before they will achieve their goals.

Also, from what I am reading from Timothy Snyder, "The Road to Unfreedom", oligarchs and tyrants are not good at succession planning because they either don't see themselves taking the dirt nap, or think no one else can fill their shoes.

So keep an eye on the heirs apparent, but none have the reach of the original Kochtopi. At least yet.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
28. Yeah, but they've got kids and grandkids with fat trust funds.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:24 PM
Aug 2019

Not to mention the endowments in perpetuity to right wing think tanks and foundations.

jmbar2

(4,871 posts)
36. It doesn't mean that the heirs will have the same fanatical devotion to the cause.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:52 PM
Aug 2019

Trust fund kids don't exactly set the world on fire, nor do the hired cogs that run the organizations.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
23. Third Way, Heritage Foundation, Kochs et al are true enemies of the People.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:08 PM
Aug 2019

That reality must be recognized and they must be treated accordingly. Their
goal is oligarchy and feudalism through compromise of principles.

Initech

(100,060 posts)
24. The Koch Bros are like a real life version of Mr. Burns.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:08 PM
Aug 2019

I wouldn't be surprised if they tried taking candy from babies and torturing their employees.

onethatcares

(16,165 posts)
26. ya gotta be some sick bastards
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:23 PM
Aug 2019

to wake each morning and think about how to put more misery on someone's shoulders.

these two got a level of hell just waiting for them.

people

(623 posts)
27. Democrats and Social Security privatization
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:24 PM
Aug 2019

It was not that many years ago that many prominent democrats were willing to partner with Bush to begin privatization of social security. My fear is that the more moderate democrats who are seeking the presidential nomination are still willing to go along with that. I know Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders would never go along with that but I am uncertain about any of the rest of them. Does anyone have any information about the democratic candidates' positions on this? The process of privatization includes means testing, refusing to raise social security taxes from those whose income comes from investments only, and limiting the social security tax to earned income less than $128,400. Any of the foregoing serves to underfund social security and ultimately force privatization which would bring all that new money to Wall Street. I don't want that.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
29. Are the Kochs the same family who runs that Mississippi packing plant that was raided last week?
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:26 PM
Aug 2019

That processing and packing plant was named as Koch Foods.

0rganism

(23,937 posts)
40. even from beyond the grave they can torment us
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 12:40 PM
Aug 2019

Koch bros are a cultural carcinogen that has metastasized our national cancer
when Charles is gone too, their foundations will linger buying influence on behalf of their wealthy friends

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