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CatWoman

(79,293 posts)
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:04 PM Aug 2019

Black housekeeper says priest barred her from cleaning home, blames 'racist' dog

Is it possible for a dog to be racist? That’s a question some found themselves asking after a priest in Tennessee claimed his pooch, which he says is racially biased, is the only reason he wouldn’t be able to let the church’s Black housekeeper come into his home.

According to a report from WHBQ in Memphis, LaShundra Allen says while she was being trained to replace the current housekeeper at the Catholic Church of the Incarnation, she was told she could not enter the home of the Rev. Jacek Kowal.

“I was just supposed to clean the church and I was supposed to go to the pastor’s house and clean as well,” Allen explained. “They were just like, ‘Well, I’m not really sure how to say this,’ kind of like in a joking way, ‘But Father Jacek doesn’t want Black people cleaning the house because his dog is racist.’”

Although Allen has never met the priest, his secretary made it a point to inform her, “I’m sorry, we are not trying to be rude, but the dog doesn’t like Black people.”

In response to the bizarre directive, a letter was sent to the diocese, explaining, “Father Jacek knew that an African American woman was about to clean his home. He made no effort to come meet Ms. Allen. He made no effort to correct any statement about his dog being a ‘racist.’

“Two church office employees then reiterated that Father Jacek ‘did not want (Ms. Allen) there’ and that they needed to leave. Both Ms. Allen and Ms. Weaver were shocked, humiliated, and felt severely disrespected by this treatment and the statements,” the correspondence continued.

https://thegrio.com/2019/08/15/black-housekeeper-says-priest-barred-her-from-cleaning-home-blames-racist-dog/

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Black housekeeper says priest barred her from cleaning home, blames 'racist' dog (Original Post) CatWoman Aug 2019 OP
Somebody is racist blogslut Aug 2019 #1
The Son of Sam excuse. Scurrilous Aug 2019 #2
I am saddened to say "Yes, it is possible." Vogon_Glory Aug 2019 #3
Dogs also bark when they fear something. lunatica Aug 2019 #19
So, you put the dog in a crate or in a closed room. Or you take the dog and run errands. SharonAnn Aug 2019 #4
That's the answer, right there. Captain Stern Aug 2019 #11
I can believe a dog might not react well to black people. Jedi Guy Aug 2019 #5
Someone walking by the dog's yard is invading their turf DBoon Aug 2019 #8
I think race was a factor. Jedi Guy Aug 2019 #14
What bull. cwydro Aug 2019 #22
LOL CatWoman Aug 2019 #24
If you say so, Dog Whisperer. N/T Jedi Guy Aug 2019 #27
um CatWoman Aug 2019 #17
They don't see in shades of grey like most people think. Jedi Guy Aug 2019 #20
My dogs bark at all humans that go by our yard. cwydro Aug 2019 #23
You can call nonsense all you like, I don't much care. I was there, I saw how he reacted. Jedi Guy Aug 2019 #26
Disgusting racism. This makes me angry. yardwork Aug 2019 #6
"personality travels down the leash" DBoon Aug 2019 #7
When I glanced at this headline I initially read "...blames 'racist' god" Mrs. Overall Aug 2019 #9
lol CatWoman Aug 2019 #10
A book by Romain Gary "White Dog". He adopted a dog that was trained to attack black people. Midnight Writer Aug 2019 #12
Made into a film by Samuel Fuller Ghost of Tom Joad Aug 2019 #18
I thought that dogs were color blind..n/t monmouth4 Aug 2019 #13
You've got to be carefully taught... dhill926 Aug 2019 #15
Dogs do not know one race from another but they do see contrast. KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2019 #16
Curb Your Enthusiasm, Racist dog: betsuni Aug 2019 #21
.... CatWoman Aug 2019 #25
If a dog had previously been abused MichMan Aug 2019 #28

Vogon_Glory

(9,110 posts)
3. I am saddened to say "Yes, it is possible."
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:11 PM
Aug 2019

I have heard of a couple of such cases of doggie racism. I do not approve of it or condone racism in their human owners/associates, but it is possible.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
19. Dogs also bark when they fear something.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 07:30 PM
Aug 2019

No one knows why a dog might fear black people or children or any other group, unless they know when it was caused.

It has nothing to do with racism. Geez! People can say such crap!

If you ever have to call 911 the dispatcher will instruct you to put all your pets in a room with closed doors.

SharonAnn

(13,771 posts)
4. So, you put the dog in a crate or in a closed room. Or you take the dog and run errands.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:17 PM
Aug 2019

Putting his dog over people? I maintain that you can honor both.

Captain Stern

(2,199 posts)
11. That's the answer, right there.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:36 PM
Aug 2019

It doesn't matter why a dog 'doesn't like' black people, or kids, or mailmen, or men, or women, or whatever.

Just move the dog someplace else while the people the dog 'doesn't like' are there. Let it back out when they're gone.

Or, just train the dog better.

Jedi Guy

(3,175 posts)
5. I can believe a dog might not react well to black people.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:17 PM
Aug 2019

When my family lived in Mississippi, our dog would bark like hell when a black person walked past the house. There just weren't many black families in our neighborhood, so I guess he reacted more strongly as a result of not seeing black folks very often.

If we had a guest over and they happened to be black, he was perfectly friendly once he realized that the person was being welcomed by his humans.

All that being said, this guy's story sounds more like a white supremacist twist on the old "dog ate my homework" excuse.

DBoon

(22,340 posts)
8. Someone walking by the dog's yard is invading their turf
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:25 PM
Aug 2019

Someone invited in by the dog's human is part of the pack

The race of the visitor may be irrelevant

Jedi Guy

(3,175 posts)
14. I think race was a factor.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 04:32 PM
Aug 2019

I wasn't as clear as I should've been in my original post. He reacted much more strongly to a black person walking by the house than he did when it was a white person.

I don't think animals can be racist, since they don't judge one race as superior/inferior to others. I think they just react to differences in appearance. He didn't see very many black people so they drew a stronger response.

Jedi Guy

(3,175 posts)
20. They don't see in shades of grey like most people think.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 07:31 PM
Aug 2019

I imagine our dog just didn't see black folks very often and so reacted that way because they were different from most of the humans he saw on a daily basis.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
23. My dogs bark at all humans that go by our yard.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 07:45 PM
Aug 2019

Black, white, old, young.

Do your dogs also have preferences as to the color of dogs that pass by? Or the breed? Dude, just no.

Dogs don’t see human color, and I call nonsense on your posts. Dogs do not care about human race.

Jedi Guy

(3,175 posts)
26. You can call nonsense all you like, I don't much care. I was there, I saw how he reacted.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 08:52 PM
Aug 2019

Just because your dogs behave in X way doesn't mean my dog must have, or all dogs do. If a white person walked by, he would bark. If a black person walked by, he'd go apeshit. There were very few black families in our neighborhood, so he seldom saw them.

[link:https://wagwalking.com/sense/can-dogs-tell-skin-color|

I'm not saying dogs are racist. I don't think they are. I don't think they believe that any one race is inferior/superior to any other. I think that if they encounter a person of a race they're unfamiliar with, they may react with more fear/aggression than they would if it were a person of a race they're familiar with. So they can perceive race, but they're not making a value judgment about it.

DBoon

(22,340 posts)
7. "personality travels down the leash"
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:23 PM
Aug 2019

Dogs are very good about figuring out their humans and behaving accordingly.

They have been bred for this for over 14,000 years

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
16. Dogs do not know one race from another but they do see contrast.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 05:37 PM
Aug 2019

It is a know thing of dogs reacting to people of color where they rarely see any of those folks and I suspect it's due to unfamiliar contrasts. I owned a spitz once that would go after anyone with dark clothing that approached her and she could strike like lightning.

This priest admitted to believing his dog was "racist" and therefor knew how it would react - probably from prior experience.

Being a pastor, this man should have trained his animal to be familiar with all sorts of people that might visit his home from his parish. If he couldn't do it, a professional trainer could.

If anything, with proper care, using that house cleaner to help train the dog to accept all people might be one approach.

MichMan

(11,870 posts)
28. If a dog had previously been abused
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 06:58 AM
Aug 2019

Dogs that had unpleasant experiences or were abused can associate that with other people who may have similar characteristics. That could be such things as children, men with hats, or women of a particular race among many others.

I have adopted several rescue dogs and one in particular had been severely abused and was agitated by unexpected things at various times. Dogs are also extremely resilient and with lots of patience and kindness can overcome these types of fears.

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