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Cyrano

(15,031 posts)
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:31 PM Aug 2019

Death is forever

Atheists "know" that for sure. I'm a devout agnostic, so I can't say anything is for sure.

But one thing for sure is that death deprives the living of persons who have passed on. Massacres in schools, churches, temples, dance halls, public areas (Las Vegas), and every other public place, have become sites of mass murder.

No place where many people gather is safe from some demented idealist, or total madman with a high powered gun.

Which brings me to my point. America has gone insane. Guns are everywhere and we do nothing about it. "Well, what can I do about it?" is no excuse. What you can do is vote against anyone who is owned by the NRA. What you can do is demand that gun ownership becomes rare. What you can do is get off your ass and get involved in some organization that is trying to stop the insanity.

Thousands of Americans are dead because of guns. Think it can't happen to you? Well, stay in the house and don't even go to someplace where there are lots of people, -- like a supermarket.

Do whatever you can to help stop the madness. After all, death is forever.

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aikoaiko

(34,165 posts)
2. I'm not afraid. There is risk in everything we do.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:51 PM
Aug 2019

Still, I support some gun control for the incremental good it will do.

elocs

(22,565 posts)
3. I'm not afraid either when I'm in more danger of being killed in a car accident
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 04:12 PM
Aug 2019

than by anybody with a gun. Yes, there should be more gun control laws, but I refuse to live in fear without them.

maxsolomon

(33,284 posts)
4. It took 40 years of specious nonsense to get here.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 04:22 PM
Aug 2019

It will take 40 years to walk back from this brink. Very few DUers will live to see it.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
6. "Death is forever; Atheists "know" that for sure"
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 05:24 PM
Aug 2019

Really? How did you come to that conclusion?

Do you know that many Buddhists are Atheist, yet they believe in reincarnation?

The word "Atheist" does not speak to the question of life after death, it only speaks to whether or not a god exists, or more accurately, whether or not the person claiming the identifier actually HAS a god or believes in a specific one.

I am an "A" Theist, the "A" meaning "without" I have no gods. I do not make the declaration that no gods exist, because that is an impossible thing to know at this stage (though I submit that the likelihood of one resembling the god of Abraham existing is incredibly remote - see my sig line) but if one is found to exist, I still have no need for it.

If Jehovah himself were to appear before me in front of numerous witnesses, I would say "huh...look at that. There he is" and go on with my day. I would than have to believe he existed, but I would still be Atheist, because I don't need what he is selling.

Sorry if I got a little long winded, but it is tiresome and downright tedious to keep reading these types of definitions as if they fit all Atheists.

They don't.


As to the rest of your post, I agree. Well said.

 

elevator48

(53 posts)
7. You may be as cool as you seem to claim, but I seriously doubt that if a "god"
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 06:07 PM
Aug 2019

miraculously appeared before you alone, or with a crowd around, that you would say what you postulate. And if he/she/it did indeed appear to be a true immortal and omniscient being, that anyone in their right mind would want to listen to what they were "selling" just in case it might be incredibly important and,or beneficial.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
8. "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 06:45 PM
Aug 2019

- Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law

And what you are suggesting - that this 'thing' might appear out of thin air, is akin to magic. Or a Star Trek transporter.

So first I would wonder if I was simply seeing an advanced technology.

But sure, if this entity had the characteristics most people would suggest a god would have, then it could implant in my brain any and all relevant wisdom it wished to impart and be done with it.

After that, well....I got shit to do!

I'm sorry, but superstitious and irrelevant nonsense does not enthrall me. Belief in a god or gods is delusional and an intellectually primitive exercise.

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