Log-cabin Republican gets asked about Trump. His response: "But what about Bill Clinton?"

[DetlefK]

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/log-cabin-republican-burned-to-the-ground-on-live-tv-for-idiotic-op-ed-defending-trump-on-lgbtq-issues/

“Chuck, let’s go through some of these specific things,” said host Ayman Mohyedin. “Trump opposes federal LGBTQ bill as ‘poison pills.’ The bill was introduced in March. President Trump opposes the bill that would end sexual discrimination to prevent discrimination against gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and queer people. The LGBTQ community changes dramatically at state borders. In the absence of a national law, at least 20 states have enacted LGBTQ discrimination protections. You even had the CEO of the national LGBTQ advocacy group GLAD say that Trump’s opposition to the Equality Act cements the legislation as being the most anti-LGBTQ administration in recent memory. It’s hard to say this president is for LGBTQ rights when he denied that bill.”

“Well, I think it’s comical that the extreme left and the mainstream media that is trying to promulgate this Trump Derangement Syndrome of him being the most anti-LGBTQ president, when you have people like Bill Clinton who signed the Defense of Marriage Act, who signed Don’t Ask Don’t Tell,” said Moran. “Even people like President Bush, who pushed a federal ban on gay marriage and tried to eliminate marriage equality. This revisionist history is simply not true.”

[mr_lebowski]

1. Before I go on ... did you need another glass of kool-aid, Moran? (nt)

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. No, but I bet he thinks he needs his tax cuts.

[Eliot Rosewater]

4. One group values racism over all other things, rump base, and this group their

pocketbook.

The dumb thing about that is you would think they would have learned by now that all GOP administrations destroy the economy and all DNC fix it.

This is just dumb on their part.

[tblue37]

3. Once again, this seems apropos:

[bitterross]

7. Yep, that guy's name is one vowel off from being correct.

He is a moron. Any Trump supporter is either a racist or a moron. Period.

[mitch96]

5. "But what about..........."

Classic spin tactic.. It does not answer the question and attempts to change the narrative.. Don't fall for it. Re ask the question. State we are not talking about Clinton we are talking about tRump. We can talk about Clinton later... Frustrates the shit out of them
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[TexasBushwhacker]

8. And as a Republican, he didn't support Clinton

nbut he DOES support Trump.

[Newest Reality]

6. Misnamed

Why not be honest and call yourselves the Gilded Cage Republicans? It fits perfectly in more ways than one.

[Indykatie]

9. Log Cabin Republicans Have Been Revealed to be Frauds and Hypocrites

Their Claim that they were/are Republicans because "fiscal matters" were their number one political issue was/is bull sh*t. Trump has caused deficit spending to explode with no regard for fiscal responsibility. The GOP only raise the topic of fiscal restraint when talking about safety net spending. They never have any problems borrowing to fund tax cuts or military spending.

[Ms. Toad]

10. I hate Trump - and his assertions that he is LGBT friendly are a joke.

But - the Log Cabin Republicans are not wrong that Clinton has a crappy track record on LGBT rights.

And before you assert, "that was then - times have changed:"

My faith community took my lesbian marriage under its care a quarter of a century ago, two years before Clinton signed a law declaring the Federal Government would not, and states were not required to, recognize it.

More than a quarter of a century before that (in 1963), although it did not move all the way to marriage - my faith community said this, "An act which expresses true affection between two individuals and gives pleasure to them both, does not seem to us to be sinful by reason alone of the fact that it is homosexual."

Further - look at all of the individuals (of all party affiliations) skewered for things like blackface - that happened "then." If we are holding them accountable for their acts back then, there is no "get out of jail free" card for Clinton.

There are matters on which the Democratic record is only marginally better than the Republican, LGBT rights and immigration being two of then.

[struggle4progress]

11. "Don't ask -- don't tell" was a step forward at the time

Clinton had suggested removing the prohibition on gay members in service

But after the rightwing backlash, "don't ask -- don't tell" was what he could get

It was a lousy policy: nobody was happy with it

But it was better than the policy it replaced

We would not have had "don't ask -- don't tell" except for all the hysterical rightwing hyperventilating over Clinton's original proposal to let everyone serve in the military

And (of course) "don't ask -- don't tell" effectively served as a transitional policy leading to a policy allowing everyone to serve in the military

[struggle4progress]

12. DOMA was a fire-break against a federal constitutional amendment

It's inappropriate to consider DOMA out of the political context that spawned it

There was a giant rightwing noise machine shrieking and moaning about the need for a federal constitutional amendment against gay marriage

Was DOMA unconstitutional? Yes: in the end, the Supreme Court eviscerated it

Did DOMA make sense? Yes: it effectively defused the shrieking and moaning noise machine for a while

It saved us from a really vicious federal constitutional amendment