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(Miami Herald - By Sarah Blaskey & Nicholas Nehamas 8/17/19)
A decade ago, during a brief stint in Palm Beach County Jail, convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein made an odd purchase at the facilitys store: two pairs of small womens panties, size 5.
It was just one of thousands of dollars of purchases made by the disgraced financier while in jail after pleading guilty in 2008 to soliciting a minor for sex, according to a purchase log. (His top purchase was single-serve cups of coffee, of which he bought more than 800 in 13 months.) But the panties raise questions about why a childless male inmate, accused of sexually abusing girls as young as 14, would be allowed to buy female undergarments so small that they wouldnt fit an average-sized adult woman.
The panties were certainly too small for Epstein, who also purchased his briefs in mens medium and sweatshirts ranging from XL to 3XL, and size-12 shoes. So what, or who, were they for, and why wouldnt the purchase raise eyebrows under the circumstances? Its one of many questions that arise from thousands of pages of records obtained by the Miami Herald from the Palm Beach County Sheriffs Office.
Read more: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article234108307.html
Pachamama
(16,886 posts)Creepy
virgogal
(10,178 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,289 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,578 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Initech
(100,060 posts)Wait...ew.
PJMcK
(22,026 posts)It's obvious why Epstein bought them, isn't it?
Sexual fantasy.
Geez.
Pool Hall Ace
(5,849 posts)A book and tubes of toothpaste brought by visitors were confiscated as contraband, but apparently a sex offender purchasing panties that are too small for him was apparently no big deal.
backtoblue
(11,343 posts)Sick bastard
dalton99a
(81,433 posts)The longer he stayed, the cushier things got. Six-day-a-week work release was extended to seven. Hours outside the cell were extended from 12 to 16. He was permitted to pass some of the time at home. Records that once referred to him as an inmate now called him client.
Deputies, required to wear business suits, provided security for Epstein while he was on work release. They guarded the door to his office or home, sometimes from the outside, rather than keeping an eye directly on Epstein, while the inmate was on structured leave from the jail. Some deputies expressed relief in their daily reports that he seemed pleased with services rendered.
Bradley Edwards, an attorney for some of the women who accuse Epstein of having recruiters lure girls to his Palm Beach estate for massages that turned into sexual assaults, has alleged that Epstein used his work release hours to engage in sexual exploits behind closed doors. A release of court records earlier this month quoted a young female college student allegedly recruited by Epsteins associates saying he required three orgasms a day to function. It was biological. Like eating, she said Epstein told her.
The record of who visited Epstein while on work release a daily log maintained by deputies and tucked away in a safe has been destroyed. Explaining that decision, the sheriffs office cited legally prescribed retention schedules that allowed for the books destruction. But many records from that time remain for investigators to examine, including the thousands of pages of just-released records.
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lindysalsagal
(20,648 posts)First of all, I'm going to say "some people", and by that, I really mean "some.", not all. So, don't argue "over-generalization."
And what I'm going to say could apply to women, but usually with different details. However, I'm not in the practice of attempting intimate relationships with women, so, I'm leaving that to other people.
Also, I like to look at human behavior on a spectrum: Nothing you can say about humanity is ever black and white, all or nothing. In other words, something like Epstein's peculiarities are a limited, gross exaggeration of the same type of behavior that many people engage in: It's just that it's not as egregious and immoral and illegal. Every day distractions are just at the low end of "how far people can go" with something they use as a distraction. So, he's an excessive example of a very common custom: Using unusual behaviors as a distraction from their own pain.
In other words, many people use drugs, booze, legal sex, and gambling, but also golf, sports watching, tennis, mountain climbing, community theater, historical re-enactments, and every other activity imaginable to distract themselves from their pain.
What all of these have in common, at both ends of the continuum, is that they will continue their favorite activity to the detriment of the rest of their lives, their profession, their relationships, their finances, and their sanity.
The saying is "It got the better of him." "It was out of control."
I've learned in my life that most relationships I've attempted have ultimately suffered from one of the more benign, socially accepted activities that was engaged in to excess, in spite of the effect it had on their lives.
So, what I'm saying is, before you ask, "how could this guy be so nuts that he'd screw his whole life up with his pathetic and immoral predilections" stop and notice that lots of people do this in smaller, legal, and less immoral ways. In fact, most men will continue destructive, repetitive behaviors at the cost of real intimacy and love and understanding: Their self-comforting takes a primary role in their lives, and anyone who wants to get involved with them must accept that the comforting behavior will always be protected above all else. Including those closest to them.
Family theory is largely an expression of how all family members learn over time to enable the dominant person's destructive behaviors. This includes segregation from others, hiding family secrets, taking the blame, minimizations, rationalizations, excusing, and all other disruptive coping mechanisms.
A destructive person will continue until stopped. He had other prison terms and lots of close calls, and still, he didn't get the message and stop. This is proven by this story: The only thing that made him stop was a prison cell. In this, he's not that different from people in your own life.
There is always a lesson to be learned from these exceptionally illegal and immoral cases. And it's not "He's nuts." He's not that unusual in his commitment to destruction.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,316 posts)FM123
(10,053 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,858 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)deviant scum in the cloak of darkness.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)And do most other systems. Wealthy people get better deals and better treatment at banks (and credit unions). The get better deals from local businesses who want to be seen working with them. It goes on and on.
A few hours ago the 16 year old said, our lives would be much different if we were loaded. I said, you can't even begin to imagine.
FM123
(10,053 posts)Funny how you never forget those conversations.
Long story short - he didn't need us to be wealthy, connected or powerful after all - he turned out great anyway!
EX500rider
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