Trump's Plan B if he loses reelection bid: Resign and get pardoned by President Pence.

[yellowcanine]

What would stop him from doing that?

[mahatmakanejeeves]

1. Pride. NT

[dawg day]

2. Pence is no genius, but his advisers will tell him about Ford

Pardoned Nixon, and his career was done.

[mikeysnot]

4. And that's... Bad?

Besides he cannot pardon him for state crimes...

[yellowcanine]

6. His political career is done anyway at that point. He would do it for the money.

Trump and Trumpers would find a way to reward him financially.

[PaddyIrishman]

17. Pence is done anyway

If this arises and Pence loses the GE along with Trump, he's finished in the Republican party anyway.

There is no way Republicans would allow anyone remotely associated with Trump, especially his charisma vacuum VP to run for national office ever again.

So Pence would have nothing to lose and would experience a brief stint at the presidency.

[TeamPooka]

20. Pence will never turn on Trump. He's afraid of Trump's base because he's one of them and

knows how cultlike they are.

[Captain Zero]

31. There would be a big payoff to Pence. Down the road.

Count on that. Might come in the form corporate board positions. Presidency of a college/university. Big vacation real estate deal with laundered money sloshing around later.

[Siwsan]

3. I think trump*'s legal problems go far beyond what a Pence pardon could cover

I never understood how anyone could be pardoned for crimes, before being convicted.

[yellowcanine]

11. Well it would likely be tested in court with SCOTUS having final say.

And with this SCOTUS it would at least be worth a shot for Trump. The other thing is that most of the most serious charges are probably financial, which are hard to get convictions on in our system. This is true even for state crimes. All it takes is one Trumper on the jury.

[machoneman]

15. Can't pardon State of NY crimes. No way. Trump is screwed and he now at least knows it.

His dying words will be: why, oh why did I ever run for the presidency?

[yellowcanine]

23. If Trump were tried by NY how many Trumpers would be on the jury?

All it takes for a hung jury is one.

[brooklynite]

5. Um - if Trump loses the Election, how does Pence become President?

[UniteFightBack]

7. They have December and January after the election to pull shit. nt

[yellowcanine]

8. Trump resigns before the new President takes office.

Pence only needs to be President for 1 day to issue a pardon.

[smirkymonkey]

9. Yes, but Pence can't pardon him for crimes he hasn't been convicted of yet, can he?

He can't pardon him for all crimes going forward, as far as I know. And Trump and his family have a Laundry list of crimes that they will be charged with and eventually tried for once he leaves office.

[yellowcanine]

12. It worked for Nixon. Granted it was not tested in court.

And it would not apply to state crimes of course. But all it takes is one Trumper on a jury to hang it. I am guessing Trump skates even for state crimes.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

14. I am not a lawyer

but Nixon wasn't convicted of anything.......yet.

[lark]

10. Pence can't clear him of state crimes could he?

Of course, following the constitution is not something he does anyway, he thinks if he wants it, it's in there.

[elleng]

26. No, not for state crimes.

[lark]

32. Good, so NY could still have a go at him and he could end up in jail,

with all his assets seized. What a wonderful dream.

[elleng]

35. Exactly, and end up in PRISON;

jails are for the short term.

[empedocles]

13. I suspect traitortrump has many plan options in mind - and no limits in his mind.

Could get very, very . . .

[Gothmog]

16. I think that this is what will happen if trump loses

The good news would be that trump would not be able to contest the election results in court

[Frances]

18. Wrong

Trump will encourage his young whole supremacists to engage in mass shootings and hold the country hostage
But he will also lean on the a Supreme Court and Mitch McConnell and Republicans
It will be another Civil War with the power apparatus in the Republicans hands
Sorry to say this

[greymattermom]

21. There are huge numbers of military style weapons in the country,

but no quite so many owners of them. I think one person can only shoot and carry one of these at a time. Correct? Will they be like the rebels of the Confederacy, at war with the military, or like criminals, at war with the police, who have military equipment now. I don't think they will last very long.

[snowybirdie]

19. At this point

I'd like him just gone asap!

[Downtown Hound]

22. He has to be indicted, tried , and convicted before he can be pardoned

He doesn't have enough time left for all that to happen. Plus, there's still the state charges issue.

[yellowcanine]

25. Nixon was not indicted, tried or convicted. Ford pardoned him.

Would it withstand a court challenge if Pence pardoned Trump?

[Downtown Hound]

27. Ford pardoned Nixon, "for any crimes he may have committed as president."

If Pence did that to Trump, then that would be admission of guilt that Trump committed crimes, and many of those crimes were committed while he was running for president (and before), and would also fall under state jurisdiction. that would be Trump's doom. Not deliverance.

[FakeNoose]

24. He'll have his corporate jet ready to fly him off to Moscow

He just won't tell anybody until the day before the inauguration.
By then he'll already be in international airspace.

[Takket]

28. if drumpf and co thought they could pardon their way out of this mess

they would have done so already. drumpf's best and only recourse is to steal the next election and buy himself 4 more years in office

[Iliyah]

29. Well the fix really must be in because I do not see

even Pence although they will try and steal it again being put into office, not this time around like 2016.

t-rump is an illegitimate president.

[Bettie]

30. Actually, I don't think he will ever resign

and he'll have to be Assanged out of the White House.

[LanternWaste]

33. I think his ego and divorce from reality would prevent that.

My guess it Idiot trump stays in and throws tantrums until the bitter end; and as the Titanic slowly goes under, he'll be in the ballroom asking why the service is so bad all of a sudden.

[Hoyt]

34. Waste of time. No jury will ever convict trump, there'll always be a few white wingers on panel.

[BigDemVoter]

36. What would stop him?

Defeating Pussy Grabber in 2020 would DEFINITELY stop him.