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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 08:10 PM Aug 2019

How much faith do you have in the polls?

There are polls showing Joe Biden ahead of Trump by double-digits. Do you believe those?

The subconscious fear is that the polls will be off just as they were in 2016.

But, for some, an even bigger fear is that the majority of this country believes like Donald Trump. A terribly negative view of our people and our country. Lies, name-calling, character assassination, even criminal acts, are OK if you can get away with it. It is something to celebrate.

Donald Trump is just a symbol. It is his followers that are scary. I still want to believe that our country is basically a good country, not one that puts children in cages and closes our door to those that are looking for a better life.

At this time, I do not have a lot of faith in these polls.

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How much faith do you have in the polls? (Original Post) kentuck Aug 2019 OP
ZERO. democratisphere Aug 2019 #1
I'm quite confident in the polls. Joe941 Aug 2019 #2
Irrelevant; it's TOO EARLY. elleng Aug 2019 #3
Ironically you should have made this post a poll. Zero for me. nt live love laugh Aug 2019 #4
The national polls were pretty accurate in 2016 Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #5
No matter how accurate they are now dsc Aug 2019 #6
I agree. LuvNewcastle Aug 2019 #15
Not a 'majority,' imo, BUT elleng Aug 2019 #7
Polls that don't take the Electoral College into account are worthless. klook Aug 2019 #8
I'm more impressed since they put the screen doors on their submarines underpants Aug 2019 #9
"It's too early really" mitch96 Aug 2019 #18
not much. rampartc Aug 2019 #10
KGB will take care of that, dont you worry. Unless our candidate wins by Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #11
The science ? Solid as a rock the willingness to speak up when there are anomalies ? NONE AT ALL!!! uponit7771 Aug 2019 #12
I think it depends on how you use the information and when qazplm135 Aug 2019 #13
For the most part Bettie Aug 2019 #14
Give or take approximately 5%. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #16
None Wiseman32218 Aug 2019 #17

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
5. The national polls were pretty accurate in 2016
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 08:16 PM
Aug 2019

The state polls were off, but they failed to take into account people not voting, people being purged from the voter rolls, and cough, cough, perhaps, cough, cough, votes being changed electronically.

Polling has actually gotten very good is is usually pretty accurate. Which is why if enough people vote and the spread between the two candidates is wide enough, Trump won't be able to steal his way to a second term.

So you can relax. Polls are pretty accurate. Nate Silver's 538 is a great resource.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
6. No matter how accurate they are now
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 08:16 PM
Aug 2019

that doesn't mean they are dispositive for a year and 3 months from now. I do think that they are likely a reasonably accurate snapshot of the situation at this minute.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
15. I agree.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 09:05 PM
Aug 2019

We could have a whole new set of circumstances to deal with next year, and people might be looking for a different sort of candidate to deal with them. Besides, American voters are notoriously fickle. You have to get through the last of the debates before you get a good picture of who's likely to win. We don't even know now who will be our nominee, much less who will run against Trump.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
7. Not a 'majority,' imo, BUT
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 08:18 PM
Aug 2019

repugs steal elections, have done so for years, think of the states, AND they have 'friends' helping them now, like russkies.

klook

(12,154 posts)
8. Polls that don't take the Electoral College into account are worthless.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 08:19 PM
Aug 2019

Who cares if a generic Dem candidate is supposedly ahead of Trump by 10 or more points? Sec. Clinton beat him by 3 million votes.

mitch96

(13,892 posts)
18. "It's too early really"
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 10:15 PM
Aug 2019

Yup, like trying to predict where a hurricane will hit the US while just a little low pressure system off Africa..
Get back to me 6 mos out from the election.. Now it's all just MSM fluff.
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Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
11. KGB will take care of that, dont you worry. Unless our candidate wins by
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 08:22 PM
Aug 2019

an UNHEARD of number of votes, the KGB will do something to flip it like last time.


It has to be so obvious, too bad we allowed certain folks to convince us exit polls are no good when we know they are.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
13. I think it depends on how you use the information and when
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 08:29 PM
Aug 2019

right now the primary polls give us some information. It tells us who the likely nominee is going to come from. It doesn't really tell us who that nominee will be yet, because it's too early. But it's likely the nominee will be one of the top five. Having said that, it's not a guarantee.

The GE polls tell us that whomever is our nominee is very likely to at least be competitive with Trump, and has a decent chance of starting off ahead of Trump.

They won't tell us much right now about what the eventual result will be though.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
14. For the most part
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 09:03 PM
Aug 2019

polls reflect which people are willing to answer a call from someone they don't know.

How many people do you know who answer calls of that sort?

MarvinGardens

(779 posts)
16. Give or take approximately 5%.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 09:17 PM
Aug 2019

Not a 5% bias in a particular direction, but a random error of about 5%. I think that's a reasonable expectation.

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