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(8,231 posts)at tax time. I earned more on my survey sites for cripes sake.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,699 posts)But then, we are semi-retired.
If it were not for the fact that I run a small business from Home, we would have had to pay in for 2018 taxes. We did get a few bucks back, but nothing to write home about. Owed State Taxes though.
Siwsan
(26,241 posts)woodsprite
(11,902 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)RandySF
(58,447 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)We paid exactly 5 grand more.
Bettie
(16,058 posts)That would have been great.
Nope. We didn't have to pay in, but our taxes were much higher. Husband has his withholding set high though, to ensure that we never have to pay in.
Arkansas Granny
(31,505 posts)I'd have to see some proof to back up his claims.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)After a hard day on your feet, a nice warm---say, 122 degree---foot soak sounds pretty good, right?
Ok, so let's put your right foot in a bucket of 32 degree (freezing) water and your left foot in a bucket of 212 degree (boiling) water.
Comfy?
Surely, your feet feel great because the average temp of the water they're in is 122 degrees.
Another example: if there are 10 people in a room and 9 are unemployed and the other has a job that pays $1,000,000 a year, the AVERAGE income of those in the room is $100,000. So, everyone is eating and paying their bills, right?
As Daddy used to say: "Figures can lie and liars can figure".
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,711 posts)I said as much in my reply to him. Median would have been a better figure. I mean it's likely those who received a sizable tax cut skewed the average.
Takket
(21,526 posts)because one person getting a billion dollar tax cut vs. 199,999 people getting jack shit averages out to $5000 per household
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)that would be good
where is it?
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Clarity2
(1,009 posts)My husband took a pay cut this yr, and our tax return was reduced by 75% (1k back vs 4-5k). We are on an austerity budget, which Im calling it our own economic boycott.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... to be "the average household"?
Rebl2
(13,447 posts)stopbush
(24,392 posts)Fuck you, Pence, you fucking asshole.
maxrandb
(15,292 posts)Then the "average" of those 100 Americans income rose by $5,000.
Fuck you Mike "lovingly gazing" Pence...go fuck yourself sideways with a First Edition Hard Cover copy of Atlas Shrugged you worthless piece of amphibian shit.
Olafjoy
(937 posts)Hate that MFer so much. Sorry for the profanity. The mass shootings, now forgotten, because we have to discuss Greenland put me back in rage mode.
Talitha
(6,558 posts)$5000?? Ok, send it to me dude.
'Cause I never got mine.
You already knew that though.
DFW
(54,268 posts)I pay 50% in Germany already (90% where the Germans choose to ignore the double taxation treaty). The only raise my household got last year was in utilities bills.
Mike Pence knows as much about my household finances as he knows about classical Chinese calligraphy.
RobinA
(9,884 posts)was $500 less than the previous year. I'm rolling in it now!!!
ck4829
(35,037 posts)Clash City Rocker
(3,385 posts)The median income rose 1.3%, but cost of living rose 2.44%. So the average American made less real money.
Where he got his number I dont know. Maybe he took a poll at the country club and assumed it applied to all Americans.
Vinca
(50,236 posts)housing market. It has nothing to do with Trump. It's always been this way. You have a good year, then a mediocre year, than a better year and periodically it tanks. My income hasn't changed and it's primarily based on what's hot and what's not in the antique and collectibles business. Why Pence is a devoted cult member of the least Christian man on earth is a mystery.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)He is either a pathological liar, (which seems to be the essence of his recent tweets) or our new Minister of Propaganda at Minutrue, or both. In fact, it qualifies him for the job.
That sheep suit fits him well, though, but you can see the drool sliding down his chin. Mother would agree, methinks.
woodsprite
(11,902 posts)With previously legal deductions being unallowed, itemization changes, plus Trumps tax cut. First time in 34 yrs of marriage that weve ever had to pay.
Hubby switched to claiming single so theyd withhold the most possible. So now were paying Trump & Co $400 extra a month. Should have only needed to increase it by $220/mo to cover the difference, but in knee jerk reaction and a quick fix requiring no math, were ending up giving extra to the govt to hold for us. Pisses me off!
Chipper Chat
(9,671 posts)A package of Kraft cheese slices that cost 4.98 a few years ago cost me 7.49.
MichMan
(11,864 posts)Wish it was 5k, but happy to get half of that. The increase in the standard deduction was a big deal for us come tax time as a married older couple with no dependents. Have not been able to itemize for years, so ended up paying $2800 less in taxes compared to 2017
lark
(23,059 posts)Pence is just another jerk, lying, Russian Repug who touts his fuhrer's lies at every opportunity. There is no Christianity in his entire body, just hate, power grubbing, lies, criminality and treason. That's why drumpf likes him, there is no him in there.
Cairycat
(1,704 posts)eaten up by the yearly big jacking up of health insurance premiums, as well as increases in the cost of necessities like groceries. 3% raise doesn't do a lot of good when health insurance goes up by 10%!