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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 11:58 AM Aug 2019

A medical doctor's response to the "King of Israel"





Eugene Gu, MD

@eugenegu
We learn in med school that if someone comes to the emergency room calling themselves the King of Israel and the second coming of God, that patient is either high on drugs or is having a psychotic break and needs to be promptly evaluated with a tox screen and psychiatric consult.


In reference to Trump's tweet this morning in which he quotes an evangelical referring to him (Trump) as the King of Israel and the second coming of God, among other lofty phrases.
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A medical doctor's response to the "King of Israel" (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Aug 2019 OP
I choose option 2. eom guillaumeb Aug 2019 #1
Can't a medical doctor call in a 5150? TheBlackAdder Aug 2019 #31
Who will tell the Emperor that he has no clothing? guillaumeb Aug 2019 #42
This is way past that scenario malaise Aug 2019 #2
yep....trump needs a straight jacket Larrybanal Aug 2019 #14
We need REPUBLICANS in Congress with a spine !!! pangaia Aug 2019 #32
You'd have better luck finding one with a heart sandensea Aug 2019 #51
many have spines, stevesinpa Aug 2019 #61
good analysis better than mine... pangaia Aug 2019 #62
Found this meme on twitter and thought it was hilarious. smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #38
Ha malaise Aug 2019 #39
Yes a very good one! burrowowl Aug 2019 #60
Somebody needs to take some pretty dramatic steps to protect our nation and world. triron Aug 2019 #46
They'd better malaise Aug 2019 #48
He sounds like someone who hasn't slept either, Captain Zero Aug 2019 #3
When I went that long without sleep, the hallucinations were pretty damn vivid. lastlib Aug 2019 #4
See my post above. triron Aug 2019 #47
I can't even go to LUNCH without this bozo doing or saying something insane! mtngirl47 Aug 2019 #5
+1000! JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #16
... Scurrilous Aug 2019 #6
What was the first coming of God? GusBob Aug 2019 #7
As a former Bible-believer. . . Collimator Aug 2019 #9
That is very interesting. Ilsa Aug 2019 #23
Nor had I, and I try to keep up on these things. Dave Starsky Aug 2019 #34
Constantine put his personal touch on the new testament patphil Aug 2019 #25
I understand that Buddha. . . Collimator Aug 2019 #29
It's really not that hard, eskimo's do it all the time.:-) patphil Aug 2019 #50
Brilliant! Collimator Aug 2019 #55
Doesn't even take med school. marybourg Aug 2019 #8
Well he was just blabbering on to reporters when he raised his hands slightly upward, calimary Aug 2019 #10
Yes. Absolutely key, loaded, and telltale. Mrs. Overall Aug 2019 #11
Actually, being "The Chosen One" to defeat China sounds to me like Falun Gong rhetoric. Fozzledick Aug 2019 #44
He does outlandish things like this duforsure Aug 2019 #12
No, he doesn't. He's just a fountain of craziness. Dave Starsky Aug 2019 #36
Fountain? malaise Aug 2019 #40
K&R UTUSN Aug 2019 #13
72 hour hold. gibraltar72 Aug 2019 #15
Or as my grandmother used to say "Crazy as a March hare." LuckyLib Aug 2019 #17
Mine used to say nuttier than a fruitcake iwillalwayswonderwhy Aug 2019 #20
Mine said "has a screw lose" or "elevator doesn't go to the top floor"...... Heartstrings Aug 2019 #57
... Scurrilous Aug 2019 #18
And Trump's "I am the chosen one" on the WH lawn this am. yardwork Aug 2019 #19
Crazy as a loon. Liberal In Texas Aug 2019 #21
He's a fucking nut. The Wizard Aug 2019 #22
Yes, Newest Reality Aug 2019 #26
"Second Coming of God" is interesting phrasing. Collimator Aug 2019 #24
in the old days, when someone lost their marbles... Javaman Aug 2019 #27
We are now the "5150" United States of America. TeamPooka Aug 2019 #28
Obviously a fake Doctor and fake medical school. dem4decades Aug 2019 #30
If he is the King of Israel and the second coming of God... LiberalFighter Aug 2019 #33
Or someone with dementia experiencing hallucinations. MoonRiver Aug 2019 #35
Reminds me of a hiring manager's response to weeping about liking beer during an interview Blue Owl Aug 2019 #37
Where does he go from here? Chemisse Aug 2019 #41
Did Trump just say what the Antichrist is supposed to say? nt athenasatanjesus Aug 2019 #43
alas, trump was just quoting what that guy orleans Aug 2019 #45
He Is Clinically Insane colsohlibgal Aug 2019 #49
45 million Americans are on pins and needles breathlessly waiting for rump to just Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #52
True, and with that, I ecstatic Aug 2019 #53
So where does the Chosen One, the King of Israel, go from here? The Blue Flower Aug 2019 #54
A 72 hour hold in a psychiatric institution n/t leftstreet Aug 2019 #56
"How do you know you're God?" klook Aug 2019 #58
A poor misguided soul MyMission Aug 2019 #59

stevesinpa

(143 posts)
61. many have spines,
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:12 AM
Aug 2019

it takes guts to be that corrupt. what we need are republicans in congress with ethics and morals, and actually to care more about our nation than their career or party.

lastlib

(23,212 posts)
4. When I went that long without sleep, the hallucinations were pretty damn vivid.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:34 PM
Aug 2019

At least I realized that they were hallucinations! AnusMouth doesn't, and he has a nuclear button.

mtngirl47

(988 posts)
5. I can't even go to LUNCH without this bozo doing or saying something insane!
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:35 PM
Aug 2019

Just googled the "King of Israel" thing.....FFS....I don't even tweet but here you go:

#25thAmendment

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
9. As a former Bible-believer. . .
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:59 PM
Aug 2019

. . .Who has since learned to question the text, I would like to point out that "Abba" was the Aramaic version of "Daddy". The word, "Bar", we know from "Bar Mitzvah" means "son".

Therefore the name, "Barabbas" is the general equivalent of "Son of the Father." I don't mean to get into an in-depth study of Biblical scholarship here, but when Barabbas was let go--according to the story--one "Son of the Father" was released while another man claiming to be the "Son of the Father" was not.

This is just a small sample of how jumbled up the story is when examined critically.

patphil

(6,169 posts)
25. Constantine put his personal touch on the new testament
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 02:51 PM
Aug 2019

when he seized control of the religion Jesus started.
Up to that point it was called the Church of the Desposnyi, and it was run by Jesus' relatives and their descendants.
Constantine rebranded the church as the ROMAN Catholic Church. Catholic meaning universal. He also modified the doctrine to suit him.
He knew the Roman Empire would eventually fall, and he wanted to create a center of power and wealth that would be independent of government.
So, a lot of what we see in the Catholic and Christian Churches today is based on Constantine and not Jesus.
As the church evolved into a great power center, the original message of Jesus became less and less relevant to the needs of those who ran the church.
The same thing happened to Buddhism many centuries earlier when King Ashoka rebranded the teachings of Buddha and modified them to suit his needs.
I think that's where Constantine got the idea.

Essentially what we had was a Satanic takeover of two great spiritual movements that transformed them into religious movements that were more concerned with the wants and needs of the ones who controlled the religions than the spiritual needs of the people who followed them.
And now we have religious types proclaiming another Satan, Donald Trump, as God.
For Devils, and Demons, that is their truth.
But then they are driven by fear, anger, hatred, and violence so Trump looks good to them.
That man has no love in his heart.

Patrick Phillips

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
29. I understand that Buddha. . .
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 03:04 PM
Aug 2019

. . .Was reputed to have walked on water some 400 years before the time of Christ.

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
55. Brilliant!
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 09:34 PM
Aug 2019

You know, I continually misquote a Buddhist dictum by saying: "If you want to understand life-- chop water, carry wood."

Of course, the saying is ". . . chop wood, carry water." But then I laugh at my mistake and joke that my misquote is the eskimo version.

marybourg

(12,620 posts)
8. Doesn't even take med school.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:53 PM
Aug 2019

The person declaring those things, in a long white robe, beard and carrying a sign, was a stock character, denoting crazy, in cartoons as long as I can remember.

calimary

(81,211 posts)
10. Well he was just blabbering on to reporters when he raised his hands slightly upward,
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 01:00 PM
Aug 2019

looked upward as though to the heavens, and declared “I am the chosen one.”

He was talking about China. But that phrase is key. That phrase is loaded. That phrase is telltale.

Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
44. Actually, being "The Chosen One" to defeat China sounds to me like Falun Gong rhetoric.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 06:48 PM
Aug 2019

I think he's desperate to take messianic flattery from anyone who'll offer it.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
12. He does outlandish things like this
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 01:27 PM
Aug 2019

When he finds out something really bad is about to happen exposing him. We've seen this many times already. More Putin ties, more corruption and lies, more proof he's gotten us into a recession? Or could it be ties to Epstein, Putin, and Barr about his death? Or is this all just an act to use a insanity plea? Whatever it is about to come out it's got him desperate, and panicking now.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
36. No, he doesn't. He's just a fountain of craziness.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 04:49 PM
Aug 2019

Every single thing he says and does is nuts. There's no timing to any of it. He is a 24/7 lunatic shit show.

To convince me that this is all planned by him, you would have to point out times (any time) when he seemed reasonable and cogent. You can't do that.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
26. Yes,
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 02:57 PM
Aug 2019

and the only, obvious nutcase we know of that has access to an arsenal of nuclear weapons.

Is the entire country going to enable that? That's what enabling is. With no intervention, this could be a real crap shoot even though I used the weapons in a hyperbolic way...or did I?

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
24. "Second Coming of God" is interesting phrasing.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 02:44 PM
Aug 2019

When paired with the claim that "Israelis love him."

The Jewish segment of Israel would not accept that
God ever came down the first time in the form of a guy named Jesus.

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
27. in the old days, when someone lost their marbles...
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 03:02 PM
Aug 2019

we used to say, "poor slob, he thinks he's Napoleon"...

LiberalFighter

(50,885 posts)
33. If he is the King of Israel and the second coming of God...
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 04:35 PM
Aug 2019

1) Why is he President of the USA when he should be in Israel?

2) Maybe his Jewish supporters should arrange to have him crucified.

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
41. Where does he go from here?
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 05:26 PM
Aug 2019

A daily roundtable of flatterers and small crowds of rallying fans just aren't enough for Trump anymore. Now he has to think himself the Second Coming.

orleans

(34,049 posts)
45. alas, trump was just quoting what that guy
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:14 PM
Aug 2019

had written. granted, bizarre as hell to quote it. i showed my daughter the tweets. i said he's gonna start believing this. *this* is what i've been so afraid of--because if he believes shit like that, he'll do anything...
my daughter nodded, "i know"


and later today...

"I AM THE CHOSEN ONE" as he spreads his arms and looks up at the sky

(you could almost hear those evangelical supporters singing aaah aaah aaah in a heavenly choir!)


colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
49. He Is Clinically Insane
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:32 PM
Aug 2019

And getting weirder and crazier almost daily. He is a risk to us and our Allies and I blame McConnell and the Senate republicans for prolonging his time in Office.

If we beat him in 2020 he should wind up in Jail or a Mental Facility....after he is dragged out of the White House.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
52. 45 million Americans are on pins and needles breathlessly waiting for rump to just
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 09:27 PM
Aug 2019

order the army and national guard to start wiping us all out.

they cant wait

ecstatic

(32,681 posts)
53. True, and with that, I
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 09:30 PM
Aug 2019

think I'm done for the night. No point in me getting worked up and furious about why nothing is being done to remove that clown from the White House. I'm exhausted. Truly.

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
54. So where does the Chosen One, the King of Israel, go from here?
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 09:33 PM
Aug 2019

How does he top that? What will he do to drive the crazy even farther? He's proven he has the power of life and death over the most vulnerable among us--immigrants and their children. I believe he now will have to prove his power over the rest of us.

klook

(12,154 posts)
58. "How do you know you're God?"
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 11:23 PM
Aug 2019

“Simple. When I pray to him, I find I am talking to myself.”


(The Ruling Class, Peter O’Toole)

Actually, Trump is more like the “after” version of the O’Toole character “Jack” — a ruthless, respectable psycho-killer.

MyMission

(1,849 posts)
59. A poor misguided soul
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 01:02 AM
Aug 2019

No. Not frump, he's just mean and crazy

But a coworker who is 70, an evangelical (repuglican) and a former social worker who does have a degree of compassion and some familiarity with mental illness.

So as she was leaving early for church, I read her the quote you posted from the doctor, asking if she agreed. She did. Then I continued...in reference to trumps tweet ..and she said "enough"
She knew I got her with that one!

We generally don't discuss politics because of our opposing views But I couldn't stop myself because I knew she'd agree with the statement and I wanted to give her food for thought (as she headed off to church!) She knows I think she's a good person but a poor misguided soul, misguided by her church; and that if I wasn't Jewish, I'd think 45 was the antichrist!

Thanks for this post! I had some fun from it.

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