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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIceland's Prime Minister Says She'll Skip Mike Pence's Visit....
I guess we will be seeing some Tweet rants on this..
https://time.com/5658037/iceland-pm-skipping-pence-visit/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Don't encourage Mother's Q-Tip. He tends to lie an awful lot, anyway. And he thinks of the Handmaiden's Tale as an exciting and practical idea for the future of America. We wouldn't want to encourage that, now would we?
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Oh she be called nasty
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)our bullshit excuses for political leadership should be pariahs.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)with Boris, if they don't let Russia in..
Rollo
(2,559 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Pence would be scared to meet with her. Mother wouldn't approve.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)and is afraid Mike wouldn't be able to control his manly urges.
LiberalFighter
(50,888 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,888 posts)Possibly wearing a leather harness?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)or maybe farm animals.
SWBTATTReg
(22,112 posts)Pence...got tired of hearing someone call their wife 'mother'...this is so gross I am just about to throw up.
Boomer
(4,168 posts)Believe me, as a gay woman, I'm no fan of Mike Pence, but I'm really getting tired of everyone getting their knickers in a twist over Pence's use of the term "Mother" to refer to his wife.
This is a common Midwestern tradition, or at least it was at one time. I belong to the generation that heard this usage often. There's a certain degree of sexism involved, because it was mostly women's names that were exchanged in favor "Mother" or "Ma". It quite literally became her name within the family circle.
I also saw this time tradition among my Mexican grandparents, where "Mamita" became my grandmother's name -- used by everyone around her, including my grandfather, her husband.
I get that to younger people today this seems strange, and it's not a tradition I'm sorry to lose, but it's not some flagrant sign of perversion. Although I'm pretty damn sure Mike Pence's closet has plenty of those.
Chemisse
(30,809 posts)It starts when the babies are born and you want them to call the parents Mom & Dad, so the parents call each other that - and then it just never ends.
My mother, who is 84, still calls my father Dad, although it shifted to Grampa for a number of years when my kids were growing up.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)It doesn't bother me that Pence calls his wife "Mother," but it is disturbing that he won't be alone with any woman unless she's there too. Does he worry about not being able to control his urges unless "Mother" is present to remind Little Mike to stay behind the zipper? That's weird.
LiberalFighter
(50,888 posts)Mother was not used for my mother or grandmother by the spouses.
Boomer
(4,168 posts)I'm not claiming every single family in the Midwest did this, but it was common. My parents never did this, but I heard it in other households and my wife's parents did follow that pattern.
I get that by modern standards it may sound odd, and I'm not attached keeping it, but it's not a sign of Pence being emotionally disturbed. There are plenty of other symptoms that merit some scrutiny (can we say "closet case"?), but this one habit of his isn't nearly as weird as a lot of people seem to think.
dflprincess
(28,075 posts)the closest it might have come is when my father might say to my brother or me "Ask Mom", but usually it would have been "Ask your mother."
We had neighbors where the husband called his wife mother. I recall Pop saying something about it to Mom and then adding "Maybe I should start calling you Mother." Mumsie, who was working on dinner at the time, turned around with a very sharp knife in her hand and said "Why don't you try it & see what happens." -- Then they both laughed. It wasn't until I was older & figured out where she'd been pointing the knife that I understood their whole exchange.
And yes, I called my father "Pop". Something my nieces & nephews find endlessly amusing.
Boomer
(4,168 posts)I'm not surprised that Pence uses it, because he's so deep into "Christian" values that deify men, with women reduced to their role. And that's essentially what that naming does: it erases a woman's identify as a human being separate from her family role.
It's ridiculous and funny
SWBTATTReg
(22,112 posts)be against the use of this word in this manner and by the way, I've lived in the country, in small towns, and in large cities, and this term was always viewed in a neg. manner.
malaise
(268,930 posts)Neema
(1,151 posts)I think there's a really convenient reason he doesn't "allow himself" to be alone with women.