All the job growth from 2018 to 2019 from the US Labor Departmet was false government propaganda

[Opel_Justwax]

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-created-500000-fewer-jobs-since-2018-than-previously-reported-new-figures-show-2019-08-21

U.S. created 500,000 fewer jobs since 2018 than previously reported, new figures show

Looking for help? Retail stores aren’t hiring a lot of people these days as online rivals eat into sales. The U.S. government on Wednesday said the economy added 501,000 fewer jobs than initially reported.

Turns out hiring wasn’t nearly as strong in 2018 and early 2019 as the government initially reported — by about a half-million jobs.

No doubt Trump's men pressured the Labor department to inflate the figures.

[RainCaster]

1. kinda like how he defeated ISIS, huh?

Fuckin liar

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. Oh jeez...forgot about that lie. We are being completely

overwelmed...forgot what stupid shit he did two days ago. This is a huge phenomenon. It is working.

[Sanity Claws]

2. Why are the real figures being reported now?

[rurallib]

7. Now there is an excellent question. Plus, how can we verify these new numbers?

Do they come from the same source?

[Lucky Luciano]

18. There are always annual revisions as well as monthly.

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More information that companies need to provide at least annually adds to the data once a year that is used to revise numbers.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

34. Very true. Guess question is ...worst than usual

variance?

[Lucky Luciano]

41. Much worse than usual - that is true. nt

[Wounded Bear]

21. Tax filings. Probably from this last April...

The government’s employment report each month is compiled from a survey of almost 700,000 work sites, but the BLS updates its numbers every year after rechecking its results against company tax records. These record are not immediately available.

Apparently the tax filings are what are triggering the modifications.

[Newest Reality]

3. What next?

Next you are going to tell me that we haven't always been at war with Eastasia, huh?

[uponit7771]

4. WOW !!! I figured they were lying about those numbers. The next president has their work cut out

[dchill]

25. Easy one. Nothing they say ISN'T a lie.

It's all they know. Truth is for assholes.

[DemocracyMouse]

30. No, lies are for assholes. Truth is for suckers... and "losers" --but at least losers are cooll...

(According to Beck)

[rurallib]

5. I have been wondering from day 1 if the admin wasn't lying

about labor stats. They lie about every thing else, why would they not lean on labor bureaucrats to make up numbers also?

I know that the labor depot. has to go back and correct numbers, but no correct has ever been anywhere near this one.

[Rebl2]

22. Same here

I figured they were lying about these stats. I don’t put anything past this administration. Who knows. Maybe they are lying about this too.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

6. Just like inflating his wealth to get bank loans.....

And Trump deflates his wealth to AVOID paying taxes.

Appearances people.Must keep up the phallic of emmense wealth or size.

[Iliyah]

8. Yep. Reading the monthly reports I felt they were not truthful.

[Demovictory9]

9. yep

[uponit7771]

10. They inflated the numbers by half a million!!!!

[captain queeg]

11. Can't wait to hear Trump comment on this

I’m sure he’ll bad mouth any government employees involved.

[Baitball Blogger]

12. Just how did they get away with it for so long?

[triron]

13. Partly a complicit media.

You know the media has been going into contortions for Trump.

[wishstar]

14. Guess stocks went up today since this report means interest rate cuts are a sure bet

as the lower jobs numbers indicate weakness in economy and will push the Fed to lower rates

[RockRaven]

15. Who was in charge of that Dept again? Oh, yeah, child rape enabler Acosta

Anyone supposed surprised that guy's department carried water for Trump?

[CatWoman]

16. k; r

[johnnyfins]

17. 501,000 sounds like a bullshit number

I'll bet it's a lot higher. So now EVERYTHING about this shithole presidency is a sham. Very sad. Think about all of the good things one could do as potus. What am infinite waste of time. It's depressing.

[EveHammond13]

20. YES. THIS MUST BE OUR WORKING ASSUMPTION ON EVERYTHING. LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE

[EveHammond13]

19. YES. I posted my hunch this was the case earlier. Trump and his Admin LIE. PERIOD.

If they accused Obama of cooking the books- it means THEY cooked the books.

[BamaRefugee]

23. Trump ALWAYS said "DON'T TRUST THE UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS"

[PatrickforO]

24. OK, I use this data all the time.

I really, REALLY hate to say this, but this particular anomaly is not Trump's fault, personally.

However, the fault DOES lie with the Republicans. You'll recall back in '14 when Obama was still in office, the Republicans absolutely would not pass any spending measure unless there was a corresponding cut. 'Budget neutral,' remember?

In 2014, Congress passed a budget that put substantial cuts on the Bureau of Labor Statistics, because hey, who needs data, right? So, BLS took back what the states had been doing and retooled the surveys so they could do it centrally. Unfortunately, the initial estimates were much less accurate than the estimates under the former methodology. This meant that both surveys used to calculate net jobs added and the unemployment rate yielded less accurate preliminary results, so the gap between the preliminary estimate and the final (adjusted) estimate was (and will continue to be) wider.

The Republican party is squarely at fault for this, but alas, not Trump personally.

[sigpooie]

38. And the repukes also

Decided back in the 80s to only report unemployment numbers based on people who are unemployed for less than two years.

[yaesu]

26. you cannot believe anything, anything that comes out of the GOP crime family administration nt

[Blue_true]

27. Do you really expect THIS administration to not lie about a key metric?

Anyone "sensing" the economy knew that it was losing steam under Trump, as soon as his policies began to take hold.

[catrose]

28. LIES. They're called lies.

[lunasun]

29. OK yeah but they better be telling the truth about my chocolate rations 🥺

[James48]

31. I'm a federal worker- and I can tell you

That it isn’t Trump putting pressure on federal workers to fudge numbers.

Federal workers generally do the best they can.

If anything, it’s that it took this long to get actual data verified.

Remember, we lost 40 days in Dec-January for the shutdown, and the ripple effect is STILL adversely affecting things.

[FiveGoodMen]

37. Are you high enough up the ladder to know whether the impetus ultimately came from Trump?

[former9thward]

32. Did you even read the link you posted?

The same people who reported the original numbers made revisions based on further information coming in. This happens all the time with any administration. No CT....

[calimary]

35. Just a fucking LIAR.

I guess you do what you're good at, 'eh?

[yardwork]

36. I suspected this. I don't believe any of the Trump administration's data.

[Voltaire2]

39. Nope. This is an 0.3% revision.

The other 99.7% happened. Read your own article.

[DeminPennswoods]

40. Revisions to initial reports happen all the time

It just takes time for the full data to get to BLS and other agencies and to be properly analyzed. After that happens, the agencies issue revised numbers.