Most posters who urge that Trump be either impeached or removed pursuant to the
25th Amendment provide a long list of reasons---his outrageous actions and words---in an effort to justify their suggestion. I will not waste time with that.
It's not that such drastic remedies don't require justification. It's just that everyone reading this and about two of every three other Americans already KNOW that both those Constitutional actions are eminently justified; i.e., Trump is BOTH an incompetent, greedy, racist thug AND unable to serve as POTUS due to substantisl mental impairment.
I'm at "either/or". I don't care which remedy is used, but I favor whichever would more quickly remove him from power. If the answer is "neither", I say we don't know that until we try. And, if we don't try, I fear he will have won. Encouraged by our inaction, I think it possible that next fall he will simply declare himself re-elected by the "real" vote totals and refuse to acknowledge any contrary results reported by the "fake news".
Before you respond with a string of "that won't happen" posts, how many outrages of the past three years were pooh-poohed with those same words? Again, I shouldn't need to list examples.
How many incompetent or fascist droolers will be appointed between now and the 2020 election?
Will their be coal mines and oil rigs in our national parks by then?
Will 250 foot redwoods be sawed into lumber?
Will anything meaningful be done to slow and reverse climate change?
Between now and November, 2020, how many will be slaughtered by assault weapons?
I HOPE there is a free and fair election in 2020. And, I HOPE Trump will leave peacefully when he loses that election. But, I have serious doubts as to both of those.
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It's gone off the rails and there is no need to list the grievances. Our country has become something I thought I would never see, and the fact that these MAGA-idiots wrap themselves in the flag and call us "anti-Fa" or "socialists" is feeling more and more like Germany 1938
I am even more concerned at the Congress' absolute lack of action... There was no need to be delicate, we all know he's a criminal. Shit, even HE knows it!
I feel like we are all being held hostage by a madman... 
