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(21,845 posts)Oh my. He has become a despot. He thinks he can order companies to do things because he put it in a tweet.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)dalton99a
(81,426 posts)Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)The stable genius
spanone
(135,802 posts)out of his fucking mind.
dhill926
(16,333 posts)so sick of this shit...
JCMach1
(27,553 posts)However, tariffs are a pretty bad way to do it...
I am old enough to still be pissed that George Bush Senior pushed economic engagement/coupling of the US economy after Tienanmen Square and then all the Presidents after essentially continued that policy despite the human rights record.
mobeau69
(11,138 posts)Of course he's pissed off all of our allies.
JCMach1
(27,553 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)started to teeter.
So the Recession is now turning into a Depression forecast. Folks have to realize it takes three to five years to build a typical Foundry Based Production Plant. And a full 18 months to build out a Assembly Plant.
When China bought our Manufacturing Companies years ago,they sent in crews to disassembly them and ship them back and reassembly them in China in order to speed up the Build out process.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)lapislzi
(5,762 posts)No.
Girard442
(6,066 posts)Betcha well find something any day now. Well let you know.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)I like the idea of stopping trade with China. They are horrible on human rights and animal rights and you know they have little children with tiny fingers putting together so many products.
still_one
(92,107 posts)What will happen is the U.S. will isolate itself from the rest of the world, and isolationism is NOT a good policy
Any thought about those rare earth minerals?
Have you ever been to China, and are you aware of what West did to Asia?
Read about the Boxer rebellion as just one example
Beringia
(4,316 posts)and stores and people all the time. How else do you send your message to change or else. Don't you ever get sick of seeing made in China or made in Japan on everything you buy?
As for the Boxer rebellion, good for China for kicking out imperialists. What does that have to do with cheap products today?
lame54
(35,277 posts)And to be cost efficient he will strip away ALL regulations
China is our dumping ground
All that trash/waste/pollution will now be here
still_one
(92,107 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)A very small number of people. Most people are happy to get the best deal on the merchandise they buy. Which is why buying things from other countries does not bother me at all. If I spend halve to price on a pair of dungarees that leaves me more money to buy more products, some of which may be domestically produced.
still_one
(92,107 posts)highway
Beringia
(4,316 posts)of jobs and loss of jobs to other countries. We should try to keep jobs in the US and pay what an item is worth. I bought a huge ream of notebook paper at Target the other day for like 50 cents and it must be worth 5 dollars. People are getting hurt from that kind of practice, workers and forests.
How would you like your job to be outsourced or your pay cut in half?
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Your expressed opinion is exactly what Trump and also left wing nationalist are pushing. That economies are closed systems denying the realities of a global economy.
The problem was not outsourcing but the continual loss of power by unions and the continued shredding of the safety net.
Everyone longing for the days when we were the manufacturing behemoth for get one simple fact. After WWII we were the only large manufacturing power. Once Japan and Europe got back in the game our days of domination were over.
still_one
(92,107 posts)China, but China did not have the same demand for the products from the West. So the West in their great wisdom decides to push Opium into China, and effectively became a drug pusher. Of course there were more particulars, but it is the same thing
You don't cut your nose off to spite your face. You don't think China buys products from China? They buy everything from farm products to automobiles.
In fact right now there is a major beef shortage going on there, we are not able to take advantage of it because of this trade war
Trade wars have Never been good
The only thing that Carter's boycott of wheat did to Russia is hurt our farmers because other countries were only to glad to take over that business.
Same thing will happen here
It is not a simple situation, that is solved by protectionism or trade wars, history time and again has demonstrated those are disasters.
madaboutharry
(40,199 posts)King Donald needs a psychiatric intervention.
Bringing manufacturing back to the US is a complicated process. It doesnt happen because Trump gave an order.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)aberration he is as he is continually plumbing new depths of incompetency, lunacy and wannabe despotic behavior. It has got to be either deliberate ignorance or all consuming racism, and it is going to take a hell of a long time to change such attitudes.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Get the SOB out of our lives now.
still_one
(92,107 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)still_one
(92,107 posts)current interest rates, but if they did, it would be a disaster
If the U.S. stopped all trade with China, I have no doubt that other countries would not, and we would be hurt very badly.
One doesn't cut their nose off to spite their face, unless you are someone who has had multiple bankruptcies, and sits in the WH
They really need to consider the 24th amendment
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)And Ivankas?
Sid
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)And we're worried about defeating this self-destructing moron?!!
Let's just concentrate on impeaching him - and keeping him from cheating and stealing another election.
still_one
(92,107 posts)Stuart G
(38,414 posts)Freethinker65
(10,008 posts)But I do not think many will fall for this BS again. He is too fucking stupid and unstable. GOP owns this fucker.
The GOP might allow Trump to be able to ignore some constitutional laws and ethical standards but they, and everyone else knows, Trump cannot hereby order much of anything nongovernmental.
The curtain on the "Chosen One" was lifted long ago. Trump is an unstable fraud.
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)There's a fast way to shut down US car manufacturers. But Trump doesn't know that. Nope.
https://www.autonews.com/article/20181105/GLOBAL03/181109971/china-s-industry-has-arrived-in-america
budkin
(6,699 posts)Good God.