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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMitt wanted to know if we're better off than we were four years ago, ask..
The families of our troops who came home from Iraq.
Ask the parents of sick children with pre-existing conditions who now have coverage and young people who can stay on their parents insurance until age 26, because of the Affordable Care Act.
Ask Gay and Lesbian Americans, who can now serve their country proudly and openly, because DADT was tossed out.
Ask the children who were born in America, but their parents are illegal immigrants. Since they no longer have to live in fear of being deported.
Ask the families of the victims of 9-11. Since Bin Laden is no longer among the living.
Ask women who weren't getting equal pay for equal work, Since the first bill President Obama signed into law was the Fair Pay Act.
Ask anyone who has traveled outside the United States, since Obama was elected America's image has improved.
The economy is moving at a snails-pace, but the Republican Congress has rejected every proposal and every idea that the President has presented them to get the economy moving. It took eight years to get us into this mess and it may take eight years to get us out. There isn't any difference between Mitt's economic & foreign policies and the Bush administrations.
If Bush deserved two terms, Obama definitely deserves another term.
Obama/Biden 2012!
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)C_U_L8R
(44,992 posts)it's doing a lot better
remember how it would tank
every time Chimpy McBush would speak
Wall Street should be begging Obama to stay
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)...since the stock market did a turn-around after the Bush Crash of 2008.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)global1
(25,225 posts)and do you want to put those same people back in charge now that we've begun to climb out of that hole.
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)This was the question asked of him
randr
(12,409 posts)newspeak
(4,847 posts)than four years ago!!! as the repubs extended the obscene tax cuts for the wealthy leveraging extended unemployment benefits for those trying to survive, as the repubs shot down any democratic job bill, especially if it didn't include something for those greedheads and corporations who are already bloated with tax cuts, subsidies; while cutting jobs, pensions, and wages, as certain members of the repubs met after the president's election to discuss shutting down anything to get the economy going so ya'll can take back the power and just finish off this country for your grotesquely wealthy friends-yeah, mittens ask me if I'm better off.
So, I'll ask you mittens, are you really an american, do you really care about the majority of the american people or have you sold your soul to any foreign or domestic wealthy sociopath who could give a shite about this country or it's people as long as a they profit.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,966 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Some people are still unemployed, but they have a better chance at a job now than they did back in the Chimp's term.
JustAnotherGen
(31,783 posts)I'm making almost double what I was making in 2008 at this time - so yeppeeeeeeeeeers! Better off!
I'm fortunate, and I'm appreciative. But as you've pointed out - yep - Americans have more now though it might not be financial gain. But some of us have been able to thrive - in Blue Jersey and the North East - and we're going to dance with the one that brung us.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)The graph above says it all. Hopefully soon, I'll be part of those numbers. Things are looking up. I've had many leads and an interview yesterday. If Rmoney gets in, we're all doomed.
rock
(13,218 posts)Surprisingly it's a lot easier to dig that hole than to fill it. I suspect it'll take a while longer to fill it (maybe 12 years total?)
derby378
(30,252 posts)I lost my job. I know what it's like to have the power shut off in winter. I'm working temp now without health benefits or life insurance. It doesn't pay enough unless I'm lucky to get overtime.
Jobs, jobs, jobs. Obama and Biden need to focus on that like they should have done all along.
barbtries
(28,773 posts)that is not hell bent on obstructing every thing he attempts to do and damn the consequences for the country.
derby378
(30,252 posts)I think the early days of the Obama administration had its priorities messed up, but they're learning.
emulatorloo
(44,072 posts)Senate majority was RAZOR thin, and included Liebermann.
This chart shows Republican Obstruction in the Senate for the first two years:
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From here:
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/08/30/778781/rnc-thursday/ which has a link to the original article this chart appeared in.
barbtries
(28,773 posts)needs to go to a larger audience.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)...to "do you think you'd be better off with another 4 years of rushpublican kleptocracy?". Ask people how'd they like to relive the same economic nightmare of the georgie booooosh years on steroids. IF they'd like to see their healthcare handed over to the insurance companies...even if you're over 65? Or ask them if they'd like to have the government control every single womb and agree that rape is just another "form of contraception"? Or...even more basic...ask "where will the new jobs be?" They sure won't be here when Bain and the rest of the vulture capitalists gobble up the rest of the economy for their own greed and profit.
Democrats need to paint the REAL picture of what 2016 will be...if Bishop Willard is installed in the White House. It could truly put to end the middle class once and for all...
barbtries
(28,773 posts)it should be framed thusly.
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)In January 2009 818,000 additional people were added to the unemployment rolls. That turned around rather rapidly following passage of the stimulus bill in Feburary 2009.
But all of the goods points listed fails to take into account what would happen should Romney get into office. The Affordable Care Act would be gone, which means my 23 year old daughter with pre-existing conditions would be kicked off my insurance plan and forced onto Medicaid where the taxpayers would be footing the bill. It means that Medicare would be turned into a voucher program and seniors on Part D would again be paying more for their medicine because the doughnut hole returns. It would mean taxes on the middle-class would go up to pay for another large tax increas for the top 1%. It would mean that the deficit would go up, perhaps quite substantially. And it would mean that the nation would be plunged back into recession within the first year of Rmoney taking office. Besides, money tucked away in the Cayman Islands doesn't create a single job here in America.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Seriously.
Is there anything a Republican would and to do LESS right now that remind people of the shitstorm that Obama inherited from the Republicans in 2009? Is there some plausible reason WHY a Republican would want voters to think, "You know, compared to the train wreck of the Bush Years (tm), I suppose Obama hasn't been all that bad."
Romulox
(25,960 posts)We need a better answer than "Bin Laden is still dead!" and "Adults age 26 and under can stay on their Daddy's insurance!"
We have to be able to answer "It will be better for YOU in four years!"
emulatorloo
(44,072 posts)Glad you enjoyed his lie-filled speech so much.
You must be very excited for the return of Bushco's economic advisors.
And you must be looking forward to all the wonderful anti-gay and anti-abortion legislation that the Republicans will focus on if they win this election.
We saw this show before in 2010. They promised "Jobs Jobs Jobs" and they delivered abortion abortion abortion and blocked every economic jobs proposal Dems put out there.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)pasto76
(1,589 posts)Ive had steady work for most of this year, and it looks good for the rest of this year. I do structural ironworking, which means I help build large buildings. When I have work, that means people are spending a lot of money, they are getting financing, and it means hundreds of people have jobs for each project.
I am much better off now. I would likely have lost the house if McCain had stolen the election
catbyte
(34,341 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)I quit for a gig with higher pay but was not treated well, and got laid off early this year the day I returned to the office from my one and only one-week vacation that was marred by a suicide.
Now I'm about to hit the six month mark on a decent but highly risky position at a tech start-up.
Am I better off? Not much, and I can't attribute any of the changes in my situation to anything the President of Congress has done or not done. Not one bit of it.
Texano78704
(309 posts)No one is illegal, not even undocumented immigrants.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts).... because this is the ONLY way he can think of being "better"...
is "did you make more money....MONEY...MONEY....