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tulipsandroses

(5,122 posts)
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 11:51 AM Aug 2019

I'm a liberal but voting for Trump - Trumpkin lies- Why aren't they confident in their own agenda?

So I recently relocated from GA to FL. Yesterday I saw a group of men with a big sign saying I'm liberal but voting for Trump. They were laughing and yukking it up and having a good ol time on that street corner. They got some honks, seemingly in support as people were driving by so I'm sure they felt emboldened and good about it.

I was going to engage them, but on second thought I decided against it. - a lone black woman speaking to a bunch of white men supporting Trump, hooting and hollering - might not be such a good idea.

I really wanted to ask about the sign. I doubt any of them were truly liberals. So then, my next question would have been, why make such a sign? Liberals for Trump? Doesn't make sense. If you like the Trump agenda, why not make a sign about what you like? The children in cages, "he speaks his mind" - you know how he calls powerful women nasty, calls minorities low IQ. I like the tax cuts and de-regulations. Why not be specific about what you like.

I then smiled after being a bit bothered by the sign at first. I thought, well if you are not willing to say why you actually like Trump and are voting for him, but instead make a sign lying about being a liberal - you must not be confident in your guy winning eh? I'm still puzzled by the sign. Did they think they would change the minds of liberals passing by?



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I'm a liberal but voting for Trump - Trumpkin lies- Why aren't they confident in their own agenda? (Original Post) tulipsandroses Aug 2019 OP
My guess is they are having fun and they are lying about the liberal thing mucifer Aug 2019 #1
I agree, they are human trolls. BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #12
If you are really a liberal, then it should go without saying that you despise smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #2
I agree. Do not even Scarsdale Aug 2019 #16
Ha! Newest Reality Aug 2019 #3
The entire GOP is just pathetic. Meadowoak Aug 2019 #4
If you wear these glasses: OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #5
Fucking liars. Even Republicans know he is bad. dalton99a Aug 2019 #6
I had forgotten about the existance of Chaffetz, he is also all those nouns Perseus Aug 2019 #13
They got nothing but trolling nuxvomica Aug 2019 #7
These people just mouth off for the sake of mouthing off, and don't have any 'facts' to back them... SWBTATTReg Aug 2019 #8
They're lying, obviously. FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #9
This seems to be the latest campaign trick. lagomorph777 Aug 2019 #10
It's actually a pretty old one that they've been using for years. GoCubsGo Aug 2019 #17
They're just that stupid. lagomorph777 Aug 2019 #19
They are just liars supporting a liar. WhoWoodaKnew Aug 2019 #11
That's about as convincing as the White people at Trump's rallies hold up "Blacks for Trump" signs Snake Plissken Aug 2019 #14
Sounds exactly like something the Mean Little Boy movement would do. byronius Aug 2019 #15
I suspect they're just trying to rally the troops. GoCubsGo Aug 2019 #18
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
2. If you are really a liberal, then it should go without saying that you despise
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 11:55 AM
Aug 2019

Trump and everything he stands for. There are no such thing as "Liberals for Trump". They are trolling idiots. I'm glad you didn't stop just for your own safety.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
16. I agree. Do not even
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 07:57 AM
Aug 2019

TRY to change their minds. tRump fans are immune to hard facts and logic. I have no idea what they see in the fat, orange, bloated arse. He is a JOKE. Take care of yourself, you are in dangerous territory.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
3. Ha!
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 12:10 PM
Aug 2019

Liberals for Trump is an oxymoron to me...emphasis on "moron".

We could assume that the Tarump-rump-rump Base is composed of many low-information, misinformed votes, (oh, come on, I am TRYING to not be too condescending here, other words do apply).

In that case, not only are they not really keen on what "liberal" means, but they are more likely to project their own ignorance outwards by way of erroneous and distorted assumptions of what liberals tend to be, especially in regards to intelligence and knowledge. "Those stupid, snowflake liberals!" That is really funny and pathetic, actually.

They may assume that the stupidity they indulge in, (or are endowed with) actually applies to those they oppose. Not only is that wrong, it is certainly a mistake for various reasons and it is something that we can and should exploit.

On the other hand, I do think that the right information presented in the right manner to folks like that might help, they may be steeped in a legacy of values and ignorance that has many safeguards and the Republican agenda not only condones it, they create and reinforce it at every step of the way.

So, yeah, it is not hard to imagine a group of folks pretending to be liberals for Trump based on those assumptions. Gonna' fool 'em good!

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
13. I had forgotten about the existance of Chaffetz, he is also all those nouns
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 06:48 PM
Aug 2019

Well, I guess they all are all those nouns too...Amazing how the republican party manages to get these wealthy low-life members.

nuxvomica

(12,421 posts)
7. They got nothing but trolling
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 01:31 PM
Aug 2019

I tried to ask a self-described right-winger what his core agenda was, as I wasn't sure I knew. He got all flustered and wouldn't say so I asked him whether he believed that millions of undocumented immigrants voted in 2016 and he was adamant they had. So I said that's been researched and debunked over and over and he claimed to have seen research, articles, that proved they had but when pressed couldn't come up with a reference to that research and said he wasn't going to get into it. I've found I can't even have a decent discussion with these people because they aren't prepared to defend their beliefs with anything remotely resembling a fact. It's all needling talking points and whataboutism. One of these people, who seemed desperate to prove to me she wasn't a racist even though she supported Trump, pointed to Trump's high job creation numbers to prove he was doing well for the economy. When I countered that Carter had higher job creation counts when the U.S. population was two-thirds what it is today, she immediately brought up the Iranian hostage situation. So I guess Trump could have higher job numbers if only he'd let the Iranian's take some hostages too?! I swear, they are so snowed they have no reasonable defense of this guy so the best they can due is troll.

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
8. These people just mouth off for the sake of mouthing off, and don't have any 'facts' to back them...
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 02:21 PM
Aug 2019

up period. They are mouthing off for the sake of mouthing off and being d**kheads about it. Idiots who never deserve my help, vote, or anything for that matter.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
17. It's actually a pretty old one that they've been using for years.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 08:17 AM
Aug 2019

These are the same people who have been calling into C-SPAN for the last two decades--on the Democratic line. They claim to be life-long Democrats, and then expound upon why they're voting for whatever republican is running. They spam their local newspaper's LTE section, and every other comments section they can with their nonsense, as well. Been seeing it since the GW Bush Error. This is just their usual attempt to sow discord among Democrats, as well as trying to sway those who haven't really been paying attention. Apparently, it does fool enough people for them to keep doing this. Or, at least they believe it's fooling people. Not sure whether it really does, or if they're just that stupid.

byronius

(7,392 posts)
15. Sounds exactly like something the Mean Little Boy movement would do.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 10:12 PM
Aug 2019

Full Lord Of The Flies. Nothing less.

PS: One way or the other, eventually they lose. Always. Forever.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
18. I suspect they're just trying to rally the troops.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 08:33 AM
Aug 2019

Dear Leader's approval numbers are plummeting, and they're probably trying to create some false appearance that he's even gaining the approval of those who would never approve of anything Dear Leader has done. The real question is, why the hell do they feel the need to stand out on a corner with a sign professing their support for this asshole at all, let alone lie about their political leanings? If he's so wonderful, wouldn't liberals automatically support him, without having to see their stupid-ass sign? It reeks of desperation, if you ask me. I'm sure there's some "Let's piss off the liberals" childishness in there, as well. More than "some", actually.

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