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applegrove

(118,426 posts)
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 09:54 PM Aug 2019

A scathing new Pentagon report blames Trump for the return of ISIS in Syria and Iraq

A scathing new Pentagon report blames Trump for the return of ISIS in Syria and Iraq

Ellen Ioanes at Business Insider Aug 8, 2019

Islamic State militants. Militant website via AP

https://www.businessinsider.com/pentagon-blames-trump-for-return-of-isis-syria-and-iraq-2019-8?utm_source=reddit.com

"SNIP.....

The Pentagon inspector general issued a report to Congress saying that the Islamic State is again growing in power in Syria and Iraq, with approximately 14,000 to 18,000 militants.

The report specifically said President Donald Trump's decision to rapidly draw down troops in Syria and pull diplomatic staff from Iraq increased instability and allowed the militants to regroup.

Former Special Presidential Envoy Brett McGurk, who resigned following the drawdown announcement, has repeatedly warned of this scenario, saying that Trump's policies would lead to chaos and "an environment for extremists to thrive."

.....SNIP"

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A scathing new Pentagon report blames Trump for the return of ISIS in Syria and Iraq (Original Post) applegrove Aug 2019 OP
K&R... spanone Aug 2019 #1
Perhaps Trump went to Jared for advice instead of Hannity this time Freethinker65 Aug 2019 #2
more winning dweller Aug 2019 #3
Obama was against them rpannier Aug 2019 #8
Where are they? former9thward Aug 2019 #4
Read the actual Pentagon report. PandoraAwakened Aug 2019 #14
How do you know what the Pentagon report says? former9thward Aug 2019 #19
The BI article links to the report (PDF format). First line, second word. JHB Aug 2019 #20
Wow, you really are upset... RandiFan1290 Aug 2019 #21
How long do you want to stay in Afghanistan? former9thward Aug 2019 #23
Ask your president RandiFan1290 Aug 2019 #24
I knew I would get silence... former9thward Aug 2019 #25
L O L RandiFan1290 Aug 2019 #27
Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #30
I guess you did not read the article. former9thward Aug 2019 #31
Guess I hit a nerve PandoraAwakened Aug 2019 #32
America is an environment for extremists to thrive. mountain grammy Aug 2019 #5
This report will sink like a stone. not_the_one Aug 2019 #6
The media is only interested in reporting what drumpf says Takket Aug 2019 #9
K&R UTUSN Aug 2019 #7
How can it be major news if it isn't a tweet or spoken by Trump? NoMoreRepugs Aug 2019 #10
I blame GW Bush and all those complicit in the 2003 invasion. Martin Eden Aug 2019 #11
Gosh, who could have predicted that would happen? procon Aug 2019 #12
MSM gotta ask him about it at the next opportunity. oasis Aug 2019 #13
This way he gets to bring peace to the Middle East over and over and over again. tclambert Aug 2019 #15
Winning baby!!!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2019 #16
This was Putin's plan. Prove me wrong. dchill Aug 2019 #17
Imagine the US President bragging about having never heard of his government's special envoy on ISIS keithbvadu2 Aug 2019 #18
Funny I haven't seen this covered on MSNBC or other msm. lark Aug 2019 #22
And home grown lsewpershad Aug 2019 #26
So how long before Trump tweets some calumny about this inspector general? dawg day Aug 2019 #28
Has the corporate media even covered this? Iliyah Aug 2019 #29

former9thward

(31,913 posts)
4. Where are they?
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 10:29 PM
Aug 2019

The link is silent on that subject. Syria has completely taken back territory that the rebels had. Where are they in Iraq? And for that matter are we supposed to stay in Iraq FOREVER? Didn't Obama want to stop our combat operations in Iraq? Yes he did and rightfully so. We must leave these never ending Middle East wars.

PandoraAwakened

(905 posts)
14. Read the actual Pentagon report.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 12:06 AM
Aug 2019

Goes into great detail naming specific areas of insurgency (not to be confused with caliphate territory as your post implies).

That said, you'd be hard-pressed to find users on this site advocating endless involvement in Middle East wars.

What you will find, however, are trolls who endlessly point to Obama when their cult leader Rump once again proves to be an ineffective ignoramus with anything and everything he touches.

former9thward

(31,913 posts)
19. How do you know what the Pentagon report says?
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:51 AM
Aug 2019

There is no link to the report in either the OP or at the link in the OP. Furthermore the link, "Business Insider", is just a rewrite of a Wall Street Journal article.

You seem to be selective on what threads you read. Whenever there is a thread about a draw down in Afghanistan there are plenty of posters who list all the horrible things that will happen if we leave Afghanistan. The same with Iraq and Syria. My question always is "How long do you want to stay?" Always silence as a response...

Response to former9thward (Reply #19)

former9thward

(31,913 posts)
31. I guess you did not read the article.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 06:30 PM
Aug 2019

The article REFERENCES the WSJ as giving the information about the report but it does not link to the WSJ (which has a paywall anyway).

PandoraAwakened

(905 posts)
32. Guess I hit a nerve
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:02 PM
Aug 2019

Last edited Mon Aug 26, 2019, 08:53 PM - Edit history (1)

Previous post deleted for calling out attack on Obama for what it is.

In answer to your question, "How do I know what the Pentagon report says?":

Duh, I read it. Duh, I know how to look up public-sourced government documents from multiple sources.

More pertinent question is: How do you not know what it says?

Also, YOUR PERSONAL ATTACK against me, which reads, "YOU seem to be selective about which threads YOU read" appears to be in violation of DU rules prohibiting flaming and the assignment of ulterior motives to fellow members.

Please explain. What threads am I "reading" that you're claiming to have an inside track on knowing? Do you have a bug on my computer? Isn't that illegal?

Also, isn't it against DU rules to claim another member has supposedly taken a stance on a topic that they've never said a single word about on this site or anywhere on the entire Internet, for that matter? Shouldn't the moderator be looking into that?

As I said previously, I was an activist against Reagan's Iran-Contra affair and the Bush family/Darth Cheney illegal occupation of Iraq long before the Internet finally made it into a preponderance of homes. Never thought we should have been in the Middle East in the first place.

So, why are you trying to make me out to be the exact opposite? Because I pointed out where you can find the information you so stridently claimed did not exist? Seems more like division for division's sake to me.

Martin Eden

(12,838 posts)
11. I blame GW Bush and all those complicit in the 2003 invasion.
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 11:33 PM
Aug 2019

Trump is an incompetent egomaniac and a Russian asset, but we can't stay in Iraq forever. Same goes for Afghanistan. The people who live in those countries are going to have to work things out for themselves. We can't manage our own country, let alone theirs.

procon

(15,805 posts)
12. Gosh, who could have predicted that would happen?
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 11:45 PM
Aug 2019

Trump's so insanely jealous of everything Obama did that he is willing to wreak havoc and destroy anything that Obama did.

He's so shortsighted and only concerned with his own ego that he doesn't care about the consequences of his petty revenge.

More proof that everything Trump touches dies.

tclambert

(11,084 posts)
15. This way he gets to bring peace to the Middle East over and over and over again.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 12:23 AM
Aug 2019

Kinda like the guy who quit smoking 47 times.

keithbvadu2

(36,619 posts)
18. Imagine the US President bragging about having never heard of his government's special envoy on ISIS
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 12:55 AM
Aug 2019

Imagine the US President bragging about having never heard of his government's special envoy on ISIS

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Brett McGurk, who I do not know, was appointed by President Obama in 2015. Was supposed to leave in February but he just resigned prior to leaving. Grandstander? The Fake News is making such a big deal about this nothing event!
8:48 PM - 22 Dec 2018

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211582387

lark

(23,058 posts)
22. Funny I haven't seen this covered on MSNBC or other msm.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 10:16 AM
Aug 2019

Who knows the true shit he's covering up with his manic, craziness? Wish media would focus on reality instead of his crazyland tunes.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
28. So how long before Trump tweets some calumny about this inspector general?
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 01:52 PM
Aug 2019

And adds the Pentagon to his list of "disloyal" agencies?

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